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wilspin · 2012-03-28, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by wilspin

Wow got rf15 from buffalo area for the first time last night. I Hope that won't interfere with CHCH when they move from 11.

Again last night.

etobicat · 2012-04-03, 08:14 PM

Tonight seams like another great one for Tropospheric Ducting. Here's a link to William Hepburn's page showing the coverage area as of 8:10 pm.

http://aprs.mountainlake.k12.mn.us/

Enjoy

stampeder · 2012-04-04, 02:30 AM

Are you remembering to correct for Hepburn's use of UTC time, or are you also specifying UTC?

etobicat · 2012-04-04, 05:16 PM

Greetings Stampeder, I was using the Eastern Time Zone when I referred to the time @ 8:10 pm. as the map displayed. Sorry for the confusion.
Best regards.

wilspin · 2012-04-06, 09:27 AM

Tropo season is uppon us again. I notice that the CBS station 5-1 (RF47?)has moved to 3-3 @480 (no more local weather channel)on CNY channel RF24 so we have NBC @1080 with CW @480 and now CBS on one channel.

wilspin · 2012-04-07, 08:06 AM

3-3 is back to weather channel no sign of 5-1 however.

Brightonian · 2012-04-07, 09:30 AM

WTVH was back on the air last night.

bigcam406 · 2012-04-14, 07:08 AM

picked up Syracuse and Rochester stations for a few hours yesterday morning.sign of things to come.

dsspredator · 2012-04-14, 09:45 AM

My south Buffalo stations were 10dB lower this morning but these 'leftover' analogs on 12, 18, 22, 27 and 29 were very strong. I can't wait for all analogs to go away.

majortom · 2012-04-14, 10:22 AM

hehe, yes I have seen the Peterborough analog stations here in Buffalo last weekend. I agree, go away already...
But ya see, the CRTC won't require DTV everywhere, because some people might bleed from away the BDUs, can't have that right

Garth J · 2012-05-14, 04:21 AM

Hey everybody!

Last night I got a wave of Southwestern Ontario tropo bagging my first VHF-lo DTV signal with CIII Paris on RF6! I also got CFPL (RF10) CKCO (RF13) TVO (RF28) and CITY (RF31) all from the London/Kitchener/Paris region!

And Today has been an *explosion* of Upstate NY tropo! I've been getting ALL Rochester DTV - even WHEC on RF10, (The glaring exception is WBGT-CA on RF46....they must be super low powered....) Also getting Syracuse, NY's WSTM (RF24) and WSYR (RF17.) Utica, NY's WKTV (RF29) also appeared very strong.

Swing those antennas while it's hot...loving the reception lately!

Tom.F.1 · 2012-05-15, 02:48 PM

Last night I did a scan, since you told me troppo was happening.
I got 41 DTv channels, + 2 analog.
I have doulbled up antennas pointed at NBC buffalo and another pointed at Hamilton.
troppo must have been good coming from the southeast, I got all rochester stations, I normally get some rochester, but this time much more.
I wanted to look some of them up for location, but some are gone today

Edit: On a closer look, the only one missing from yesterday is 3.1,2,3 WSTM Syracuse. Thats pretty good from Ajax on a side lobe.
Still have 8, 10, 15, 21 & 31

Goldielover · 2012-05-15, 07:46 PM

Got a number of channels myself this morning. Unfortunately, kid rescanned before I got a chance to take note of everything I got, so can't post the complete list. I know I got some Rochester channels, along with WQLN, WFXP and WJET Erie, ION Batavia, and WQHS Cleveland too. Nothing from Syracuse or Utica, but as I'm west facing, those are usually a little harder for me to pick up than those to the west. Garth, TVO Kitchener is a regular for me, I get that pretty well all year round. CITY Woodstock is a summer regular for me. Both are sometimes better than their Toronto equivalents if the multipath around here is being particularly problematical. Congrats on the VHF-LO - I've never managed one of those. I don't think either the Terk or the C2V are really meant to be able to pick up VHF-LO.

bigcam406 · 2012-05-15, 08:12 PM

picked up Syracuse,Utica,Rochester with all my other regulars with my Terk today.love this time of year

majortom · 2012-05-15, 11:53 PM

Some atypical reception of Toronto stations in Buffalo, ~ 11 PM
Strength in dBm is the pilot as measured on spectrum analyser
SNR is as received by the inDtube USB Tuner. I only recorded the
SNR for the ones I regularly receive and have configured in MythTv.
But been receiving them all nite including CJMT 51. The curious ones are
the ones measured ~ -87, -88 but still receiving them. And the ones in
the -50's are pretty radical for around here.

Code:

rf ch	dBm	SNR
9	-75	21
11	-82	21
13	-88	
19	-56	26
20	-52	27
25	-57	27
41	-61	27
44	-70	
47	-75
51	-87

2012-04-03, 08:14 PM	#32
etobicat Rookie Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Browns Line & Evans Ave. Etobicoke, Ontario Posts: 9	Tropospheric Ducting Tonight seams like another great one for Tropospheric Ducting. Here's a link to William Hepburn's page showing the coverage area as of 8:10 pm. http://aprs.mountainlake.k12.mn.us/ Enjoy

2012-04-04, 05:16 PM	#34
etobicat Rookie Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Browns Line & Evans Ave. Etobicoke, Ontario Posts: 9	Tropospheric Ducting Greetings Stampeder, I was using the Eastern Time Zone when I referred to the time @ 8:10 pm. as the map displayed. Sorry for the confusion. Best regards.

2012-04-06, 09:27 AM	#35
wilspin Corporate Supporter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Rice Lake near Bewdley Posts: 637	Syracuse Tropo season is uppon us again. I notice that the CBS station 5-1 (RF47?)has moved to 3-3 @480 (no more local weather channel)on CNY channel RF24 so we have NBC @1080 with CW @480 and now CBS on one channel. __________________ 60' Delhi tower,91XG,Y13-10,DB8,Tin Lee Traps,CM9521A,CM7777,CM7000,Winegard RC-1010 & HDA200,Samsung 32 LCD,2 WTV950Q Twinntech supports Digital Home

2012-04-07, 08:06 AM	#36
wilspin Corporate Supporter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Rice Lake near Bewdley Posts: 637	3-3 is back to weather channel no sign of 5-1 however. __________________ 60' Delhi tower,91XG,Y13-10,DB8,Tin Lee Traps,CM9521A,CM7777,CM7000,Winegard RC-1010 & HDA200,Samsung 32 LCD,2 WTV950Q Twinntech supports Digital Home

2012-04-14, 10:22 AM	#40
majortom Veteran Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,555	hehe, yes I have seen the Peterborough analog stations here in Buffalo last weekend. I agree, go away already... But ya see, the CRTC won't require DTV everywhere, because some people might bleed from away the BDUs, can't have that right __________________ uhf/vhf combo rotor chimney mount homebrew vhf hi hpf ap-8700 preamp 4way split lg lcd dtt901 pctuner mythtv

2012-04-04, 02:30 AM	#33
stampeder OTA Forum Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North Delta, BC (96Av x 116St) Posts: 23,338	Are you remembering to correct for Hepburn's use of UTC time, or are you also specifying UTC?

2012-04-07, 09:30 AM	#37
Brightonian Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 165	WTVH was back on the air last night.

2012-04-14, 07:08 AM	#38
bigcam406 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: south oshawa Posts: 210	picked up Syracuse and Rochester stations for a few hours yesterday morning.sign of things to come.

2012-04-14, 09:45 AM	#39
dsspredator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: St Catharines Posts: 990	My south Buffalo stations were 10dB lower this morning but these 'leftover' analogs on 12, 18, 22, 27 and 29 were very strong. I can't wait for all analogs to go away.

2012-05-14, 04:21 AM	#41
Garth J Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Markham, Ontario Posts: 114	HOT Tropo tonight! Hey everybody! Last night I got a wave of Southwestern Ontario tropo bagging my first VHF-lo DTV signal with CIII Paris on RF6! I also got CFPL (RF10) CKCO (RF13) TVO (RF28) and CITY (RF31) all from the London/Kitchener/Paris region! And Today has been an explosion of Upstate NY tropo! I've been getting ALL Rochester DTV - even WHEC on RF10, (The glaring exception is WBGT-CA on RF46....they must be super low powered....) Also getting Syracuse, NY's WSTM (RF24) and WSYR (RF17.) Utica, NY's WKTV (RF29) also appeared very strong. Swing those antennas while it's hot...loving the reception lately!

2012-05-15, 02:48 PM	#42
Tom.F.1 Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ajax, Ontario Posts: 1,926	41 DTV channels Last night I did a scan, since you told me troppo was happening. I got 41 DTv channels, + 2 analog. I have doulbled up antennas pointed at NBC buffalo and another pointed at Hamilton. troppo must have been good coming from the southeast, I got all rochester stations, I normally get some rochester, but this time much more. I wanted to look some of them up for location, but some are gone today Edit: On a closer look, the only one missing from yesterday is 3.1,2,3 WSTM Syracuse. Thats pretty good from Ajax on a side lobe. Still have 8, 10, 15, 21 & 31 __________________ Samsung TV, Pio-Elite AVR, OppoBD, Wharfedale Speakers, Kicker Subs. Bell EVu, DB-4e OTA:)

2012-05-15, 07:46 PM	#43
Goldielover Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Toronto (Midtown) Posts: 244	Got a number of channels myself this morning. Unfortunately, kid rescanned before I got a chance to take note of everything I got, so can't post the complete list. I know I got some Rochester channels, along with WQLN, WFXP and WJET Erie, ION Batavia, and WQHS Cleveland too. Nothing from Syracuse or Utica, but as I'm west facing, those are usually a little harder for me to pick up than those to the west. Garth, TVO Kitchener is a regular for me, I get that pretty well all year round. CITY Woodstock is a summer regular for me. Both are sometimes better than their Toronto equivalents if the multipath around here is being particularly problematical. Congrats on the VHF-LO - I've never managed one of those. I don't think either the Terk or the C2V are really meant to be able to pick up VHF-LO.

2012-05-15, 08:12 PM	#44
bigcam406 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: south oshawa Posts: 210	picked up Syracuse,Utica,Rochester with all my other regulars with my Terk today.love this time of year

2012-05-15, 11:53 PM	#45
majortom Veteran Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,555	Some atypical reception of Toronto stations in Buffalo, ~ 11 PM Strength in dBm is the pilot as measured on spectrum analyser SNR is as received by the inDtube USB Tuner. I only recorded the SNR for the ones I regularly receive and have configured in MythTv. But been receiving them all nite including CJMT 51. The curious ones are the ones measured ~ -87, -88 but still receiving them. And the ones in the -50's are pretty radical for around here. Code: rf ch dBm SNR 9 -75 21 11 -82 21 13 -88 19 -56 26 20 -52 27 25 -57 27 41 -61 27 44 -70 47 -75 51 -87 __________________ uhf/vhf combo rotor chimney mount homebrew vhf hi hpf ap-8700 preamp 4way split lg lcd dtt901 pctuner mythtv

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