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Old 2011-10-06, 03:29 AM   #61
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It is I think the first 2 tuner version Silicondust made.
They can still be had on ebay too.
HDHR-US is what it says on the unit and on the LAN.

Oh and I have a 8 1/2 foot 1 inch tube from the broken VHF antenna I was pondering using for a really long UHF antenna using the corner reflector and dipole from my 3672.
Not sure what it will do but I'm assuming it will have a really narrow beam with that long of a boom.
I just haven't had time to get the a hang of 4nec to model it.
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Old 2011-10-14, 04:13 AM   #62
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Ok what is wrong with this model?

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CM Custom UHF Yagi
CE
GW 1 23 0.3125 0.5989 2.75 0.3125 -0.599 2.75 0.03125
GW 2 23 0.3125 0.5989 2.25 0.3125 -0.599 2.25 0.03125
GW 3 23 0.5208 0.5989 2.9245 0.5208 -0.599 2.9245 0.03125
GW 4 23 0.5208 0.5989 2.0755 0.5208 -0.599 2.0755 0.03125
GW 5 23 0.7239 0.5989 3.1563 0.7239 -0.599 3.1563 0.03125
GW 6 23 0.7239 0.5989 1.8437 0.7239 -0.599 1.8437 0.03125
GW 7 51 0.4166 1.333 2.5 0.4166 -1.333 2.5 0.03125
GW 8 1 0.7083 0.06 2.425 0.7183 0.1 2.425 4.16667e-3
GW 9 1 0.7183 0.1 2.425 0.7292 0.1342 2.425 4.16667e-3
GW 10 3 0.7292 0.1342 2.425 0.7292 0.255 2.4025 4.16667e-3
GW 11 3 0.7292 0.255 2.4025 0.7292 0.3758 2.3808 4.16667e-3
GW 12 3 0.7292 0.3758 2.3808 0.7292 0.43 2.4917 4.16667e-3
GW 13 3 0.7292 0.43 2.4917 0.7292 0.3758 2.6025 4.16667e-3
GW 14 3 0.7292 0.3758 2.6025 0.7292 0.255 2.5808 4.16667e-3
GW 15 3 0.7292 0.255 2.5808 0.7292 0.1342 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 16 3 0.7292 0.1342 2.5583 0.7292 0.0658 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 17 1 0.7292 0.0658 2.5583 0.7292 0.0242 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 18 1 0.7083 0.06 2.425 0.6983 0.1 2.425 4.16667e-3
GW 19 1 0.6983 0.1 2.425 0.6875 0.1342 2.425 4.16667e-3
GW 20 3 0.6875 0.1342 2.425 0.6875 0.255 2.4025 4.16667e-3
GW 21 3 0.6875 0.255 2.4025 0.6875 0.3758 2.3808 4.16667e-3
GW 22 3 0.6875 0.3758 2.3808 0.6875 0.43 2.4917 4.16667e-3
GW 23 3 0.6875 0.43 2.4917 0.6875 0.3758 2.6025 4.16667e-3
GW 24 3 0.6875 0.3758 2.6025 0.6875 0.255 2.5808 4.16667e-3
GW 25 3 0.6875 0.255 2.5808 0.6875 0.1342 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 26 3 0.6875 0.1342 2.5583 0.6875 0.0658 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 27 1 0.6875 0.0658 2.5583 0.6875 0.0242 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 28 1 0.7292 0.1342 2.425 0.6875 0.1342 2.425 4.16667e-3
GW 29 1 0.7292 0.255 2.4025 0.6875 0.255 2.4025 4.16667e-3
GW 30 1 0.7292 0.3758 2.3808 0.6875 0.3758 2.3808 4.16667e-3
GW 31 1 0.7292 0.43 2.4917 0.6875 0.43 2.4917 4.16667e-3
GW 32 1 0.7292 0.3758 2.6025 0.6875 0.3758 2.6025 4.16667e-3
GW 33 1 0.7292 0.255 2.5808 0.6875 0.255 2.5808 4.16667e-3
GW 34 1 0.7292 0.1342 2.5583 0.6875 0.1342 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 35 1 0.7292 0.0658 2.5583 0.6875 0.0658 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 36 1 0.7292 0.0242 2.5583 0.6875 0.0242 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 37 1 0.67 0.0658 2.5583 0.6875 0.0658 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 38 1 0.67 0.0658 2.5583 0.6292 0.0658 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 39 3 0.6875 0.0242 2.5583 0.6042 0.0242 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 40 1 0.6042 0.0242 2.5583 0.6042 0.0417 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 41 1 0.6042 0.0417 2.5583 0.6292 0.0658 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 42 3 0.6042 0.0242 2.5583 0.4583 0.0242 2.5583 2.08333e-3
GW 43 3 0.6042 0.0417 2.5583 0.4583 0.0417 2.5583 2.08333e-3
GW 44 1 0.4583 0.0242 2.5583 0.4583 0.0417 2.5583 2.08333e-3
GW 45 3 0.4583 0.0242 2.5583 0.3542 0.0242 2.5583 2.08333e-3
GW 46 3 0.4583 0.0417 2.5583 0.3542 0.0417 2.5583 2.08333e-3
GW 47 1 0.7083 -0.08 2.425 0.7183 -0.11 2.425 4.16667e-3
GW 48 1 0.7183 -0.11 2.425 0.7292 -0.149 2.425 4.16667e-3
GW 49 3 0.7292 -0.149 2.425 0.7292 -0.27 2.4025 4.16667e-3
GW 50 3 0.7292 -0.27 2.4025 0.7292 -0.391 2.3808 4.16667e-3
GW 51 3 0.7292 -0.391 2.3808 0.7292 -0.445 2.4917 4.16667e-3
GW 52 3 0.7292 -0.445 2.4917 0.7292 -0.391 2.6025 4.16667e-3
GW 53 3 0.7292 -0.391 2.6025 0.7292 -0.27 2.5808 4.16667e-3
GW 54 3 0.7292 -0.27 2.5808 0.7292 -0.149 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 55 3 0.7292 -0.149 2.5583 0.7292 -0.081 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 56 1 0.7292 -0.081 2.5583 0.7292 -0.039 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 57 1 0.7083 -0.08 2.425 0.6983 -0.11 2.425 4.16667e-3
GW 58 1 0.6983 -0.11 2.425 0.6875 -0.149 2.425 4.16667e-3
GW 59 3 0.6875 -0.149 2.425 0.6875 -0.27 2.4025 4.16667e-3
GW 60 3 0.6875 -0.27 2.4025 0.6875 -0.391 2.3808 4.16667e-3
GW 61 3 0.6875 -0.391 2.3808 0.6875 -0.445 2.4917 4.16667e-3
GW 62 3 0.6875 -0.445 2.4917 0.6875 -0.391 2.6025 4.16667e-3
GW 63 3 0.6875 -0.391 2.6025 0.6875 -0.27 2.5808 4.16667e-3
GW 64 3 0.6875 -0.27 2.5808 0.6875 -0.149 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 65 3 0.6875 -0.149 2.5583 0.6875 -0.081 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 66 1 0.6875 -0.081 2.5583 0.6875 -0.039 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 67 1 0.7292 -0.149 2.425 0.6875 -0.149 2.425 4.16667e-3
GW 68 1 0.7292 -0.27 2.4025 0.6875 -0.27 2.4025 4.16667e-3
GW 69 1 0.7292 -0.391 2.3808 0.6875 -0.391 2.3808 4.16667e-3
GW 70 1 0.7292 -0.445 2.4917 0.6875 -0.445 2.4917 4.16667e-3
GW 71 1 0.7292 -0.391 2.6025 0.6875 -0.391 2.6025 4.16667e-3
GW 72 1 0.7292 -0.27 2.5808 0.6875 -0.27 2.5808 4.16667e-3
GW 73 1 0.7292 -0.149 2.5583 0.6875 -0.149 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 74 1 0.7292 -0.081 2.5583 0.6875 -0.081 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 75 1 0.7292 -0.039 2.5583 0.6875 -0.039 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 76 1 0.67 -0.081 2.5583 0.6875 -0.081 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 77 1 0.67 -0.081 2.5583 0.6292 -0.081 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 78 3 0.6875 -0.039 2.5583 0.6042 -0.039 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 79 1 0.6042 -0.039 2.5583 0.6042 -0.057 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 80 1 0.6042 -0.057 2.5583 0.6292 -0.081 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 81 3 0.6042 -0.039 2.5583 0.4583 -0.039 2.5583 2.08333e-3
GW 82 3 0.6042 -0.057 2.5583 0.4583 -0.057 2.5583 2.08333e-3
GW 83 1 0.4583 -0.039 2.5583 0.4583 -0.057 2.5583 2.08333e-3
GW 84 3 0.4583 -0.039 2.5583 0.3542 -0.039 2.5583 2.08333e-3
GW 85 3 0.4583 -0.057 2.5583 0.3542 -0.057 2.5583 2.08333e-3
GW 86 3 0.67 0.0658 2.5583 0.6708 0.1217 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 87 1 0.6708 0.1217 2.5583 0.6708 0.1633 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 88 3 0.6292 0.0658 2.5583 0.6292 0.1217 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 89 1 0.6292 0.1217 2.5583 0.6292 0.1633 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 90 1 0.6708 0.1217 2.5583 0.6292 0.1217 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 91 1 0.6708 0.1633 2.5583 0.6292 0.1633 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 92 1 0.6292 0.1217 2.5583 0.5917 0.1425 2.5583 7.08333e-3
GW 93 1 0.6292 0.1633 2.5583 0.5917 0.1425 2.5583 7.08333e-3
GW 94 1 0.5917 0.1425 2.5583 0.5583 0.1425 2.5583 0.01041667
GW 95 3 0.67 -0.081 2.5583 0.6708 -0.137 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 96 1 0.6708 -0.137 2.5583 0.6708 -0.178 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 97 3 0.6292 -0.081 2.5583 0.6292 -0.137 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 98 1 0.6292 -0.137 2.5583 0.6292 -0.178 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 99 1 0.6708 -0.137 2.5583 0.6292 -0.137 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 100 1 0.6708 -0.178 2.5583 0.6292 -0.178 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 101 1 0.6292 -0.137 2.5583 0.5917 -0.158 2.5583 7.08333e-3
GW 102 1 0.6292 -0.178 2.5583 0.5917 -0.158 2.5583 7.08333e-3
GW 103 1 0.5917 -0.158 2.5583 0.5583 -0.158 2.5583 0.01041667
GW 104 3 0.7083 -0.08 2.425 0.7083 -0.01 2.425 2.11753e-3
GW 105 1 0.7083 0.06 2.425 0.7083 0.01 2.425 2.11753e-3
GW 106 3 0.7292 0.0242 2.5583 0.7292 -0.039 2.5583 2.11753e-3
GW 107 11 1.0003 0.25 2.5 1.0003 -0.25 2.5 0.03125
GW 108 11 1.2913 0.25 2.5 1.2913 -0.25 2.5 0.03125
GW 109 11 1.5833 0.25 2.5 1.5833 -0.25 2.5 0.03125
GW 110 11 1.8753 0.25 2.5 1.8753 -0.25 2.5 0.03125
GW 111 11 2.1666 0.25 2.5 2.1666 -0.25 2.5 0.03125
GW 112 11 2.4583 0.25 2.5 2.4583 -0.25 2.5 0.03125
GW 113 11 2.75 0.25 2.5 2.75 -0.25 2.5 0.03125
GW 114 11 3.0416 0.25 2.5 3.0416 -0.25 2.5 0.03125
GW 115 11 3.3333 0.25 2.5 3.3333 -0.25 2.5 0.03125
GW 116 11 3.6249 0.25 2.5 3.6249 -0.25 2.5 0.03125
GW 117 11 3.9166 0.25 2.5 3.9166 -0.25 2.5 0.03125
GW 118 11 4.2083 0.25 2.5 4.2083 -0.25 2.5 0.03125
GW 119 11 4.5 0.25 2.5 4.5 -0.25 2.5 0.03125
GW 120 11 4.7916 0.25 2.5 4.7916 -0.25 2.5 0.03125
GW 121 11 5.0833 0.25 2.5 5.0833 -0.25 2.5 0.03125
GW 122 11 5.375 0.25 2.5 5.375 -0.25 2.5 0.03125
GW 123 11 5.6667 0.25 2.5 5.6667 -0.25 2.5 0.03125
GW 124 11 5.9583 0.25 2.5 5.9583 -0.25 2.5 0.03125
GW 125 11 6.25 0.25 2.5 6.25 -0.25 2.5 0.03125
GW 126 11 6.5417 0.25 2.5 6.5417 -0.25 2.5 0.03125
GW 127 11 6.8333 0.25 2.5 6.8333 -0.25 2.5 0.03125
GW 128 11 7.125 0.25 2.5 7.125 -0.25 2.5 0.03125
GW 129 11 7.4167 0.25 2.5 7.4167 -0.25 2.5 0.03125
GW 130 11 7.7083 0.25 2.5 7.7083 -0.25 2.5 0.03125
GW 131 11 8 0.25 2.5 8 -0.25 2.5 0.03125
GW 132 1 0.7083 0.01 2.425 0.7083 -0.01 2.425 0.03125
GS 0 0 0.3048 ' All in ft.
GE 0
EK
LD 5 1 0 0 2.49e7 0
EX 0 132 1 0 1 0
GN -1
FR 0 1 0 0 470 0
RP 0 1 73 1510 90 0 1 5 0 0
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Old 2011-10-14, 06:41 AM   #63
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For one thing, thats a lot of 3/4" tubing, heh. On wire size, you input the radius, which is 1/2 the diameter.
Since the antenna is modeled in free space, theres no need to lift the antenna higher in the Z coordinate. Having the antenna centered on the Z and X coordinates is fine and simplifies things.

Youre catching on very well in Geometry edit.
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Ok what is wrong with this model?
It's in feet?
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OK I input 3/8" because that is what I will be using from the old antenna elements that I have acquired. It keeps spitting out an segment error when I run the far field pattern.
So what your saying is I input half the wire diameter?

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Some NEC2 "shell" programs use Diameter, but 4nec2 as well as the underlying
NEC2 Engine expect to see RADIUS.

After changing GW1-7 and GW107-131 to Radius, AutoGainTest was still WAY OFF.
I adjusted Radius of GW132 (simulated SOURCE wire) to 0.006 (feet) for AGT=1.0.
No ERRORS or Warnings after rerunning the file. AGT adjustment procedure:
http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/show....php?p=1301430

There are several different wire sizes in GW8-106, small wires forming and
surrounding the Bow-Tie element....it might help if more were the same size.
The SOURCE wire size may need to be readjusted for AGT=1.0 if you change
any of these other wire sizes.

Minimum Gain = 10 dBi with a fairly broad Gain peak of 18-19+ dBi on Ch40-51,
corresponding to the best part of the SWR curve.

Everyone starts with Geometry Editor....but I've found that it is EASIER to
"see" what you have if you use SYmbols to define "universal" antenna models
and then simply read through the SYmbol definitions to review the various
Reflector and Director Lengths, Radii, X-Axis placements, et. al.

You can also define a Rescale Factor (e.g. "SY F=1.05"), where "F" is multiplied
against ALL of the X, Y, Z variables to change the size and thereby recenter the
overall frequency response until the performance is a "best fit".

SYmbols are also a pre-requisite for using nikiml's python optimization scripts....
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I see I didn't know it was using radius...so 3/8" diameter aluminum elements would be 3/16"?
I can't change the bowtie unless I make a whole new dipole. I'm using the bowtie that came off my CM3672 UHF section. The pictures and dimensions of which are in my Picasa album.
I need it to peak around channel 23.
I'm not really good with the math so not sure how to setup the symbols to optimize this antenna. I can wrap my head around the X, Y & Z for placement and initial sizing but that is as far as my middle aged brain can handle.

I have what is left of a boom from an old Channel Master VHF antenna which is 104 inches long less the 4 1/2 inches where I'm going to put the mount which is going to behind the reflector. I'm going to use the the aluminum support rods that came off that antenna to support the antenna sticking out from the mast.

My thought is that this will keep the mast out of the zone of the directors and help the antenna perform better. So I ended up with right at 8ft of antenna unless the spacings are better at less than 3 1/2 inches apart.

Thanks holl_ands and 300ohm
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I see I didn't know it was using radius...so 3/8" diameter aluminum elements would be 3/16"?
Yep, .1875" is the radius for 3/8" tubing. Adjust all your units of measure, char-impedance, etc in "Settings" on the Main 4nec2 screen.

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I can't change the bowtie unless I make a whole new dipole. I'm using the bowtie that came off my CM3672 UHF section. The pictures and dimensions of which are in my Picasa album.
In that case, its a constant, and a SY symbol for it isnt necessary. The SY symbol is needed for elements to be optimized.

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I need it to peak around channel 23.
Basically what youre going to need to do is increase the reflector and director lengths and spacings.

On a corner reflector yagi antenna, the reflector controls the lower channels gain and the yagi controls the upper high channels range.

My summary from other sites on the web:
* basic 90 degree corner reflector yagi design guidelines:
Design the yagi for the high frequencies, design the corner reflector for the low frequencies.
The distance from the CR apex to the driven element should be between 1/3 wavelength and 2/3 wavelength of the lower frequencies. This is where the tweaking comes in. Too small a distance and the SWR is high. Too large a distance and the antenna produces lobes, which take away directionality.
The width of the CR should be 1.2 to 1.5 times the width of the driven element. (more is better, but the law of marginal utility applies)
The length of one side of the CR should be approx 2 times the CR apex to driven element distance.

The Law of Marginal Utility. Its not just a good idea, its the LAW.
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Ok but is there a way to move the dipole as a unit with a SY card so the position on the boom can be optimized?
holl_ands did you happen to save the resulting nec file so you can upload?
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Here is your 4nec2 file with the mods I mentioned above:

Code:
CM UHF Custom 26 Element Yagi w 7 Reflector Rods, nec2 by kc2cbd, 14Oct2010
CM holl_ands RevA mods: Rref & Rdir convert Diameter to RADIUS, Add FR/RP's.
CE
SY Rref=0.03125/2
SY Rdir=0.03125/2
GW 1 23 0.3125 0.5989 2.75 0.3125 -0.599 2.75 Rref
GW 2 23 0.3125 0.5989 2.25 0.3125 -0.599 2.25 Rref
GW 3 23 0.5208 0.5989 2.9245 0.5208 -0.599 2.9245 Rref
GW 4 23 0.5208 0.5989 2.0755 0.5208 -0.599 2.0755 Rref
GW 5 23 0.7239 0.5989 3.1563 0.7239 -0.599 3.1563 Rref
GW 6 23 0.7239 0.5989 1.8437 0.7239 -0.599 1.8437 Rref
GW 7 51 0.4166 1.333 2.5 0.4166 -1.333 2.5 Rref
GW 8 1 0.7083 0.06 2.425 0.7183 0.1 2.425 4.16667e-3
GW 9 1 0.7183 0.1 2.425 0.7292 0.1342 2.425 4.16667e-3
GW 10 3 0.7292 0.1342 2.425 0.7292 0.255 2.4025 4.16667e-3
GW 11 3 0.7292 0.255 2.4025 0.7292 0.3758 2.3808 4.16667e-3
GW 12 3 0.7292 0.3758 2.3808 0.7292 0.43 2.4917 4.16667e-3
GW 13 3 0.7292 0.43 2.4917 0.7292 0.3758 2.6025 4.16667e-3
GW 14 3 0.7292 0.3758 2.6025 0.7292 0.255 2.5808 4.16667e-3
GW 15 3 0.7292 0.255 2.5808 0.7292 0.1342 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 16 3 0.7292 0.1342 2.5583 0.7292 0.0658 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 17 1 0.7292 0.0658 2.5583 0.7292 0.0242 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 18 1 0.7083 0.06 2.425 0.6983 0.1 2.425 4.16667e-3
GW 19 1 0.6983 0.1 2.425 0.6875 0.1342 2.425 4.16667e-3
GW 20 3 0.6875 0.1342 2.425 0.6875 0.255 2.4025 4.16667e-3
GW 21 3 0.6875 0.255 2.4025 0.6875 0.3758 2.3808 4.16667e-3
GW 22 3 0.6875 0.3758 2.3808 0.6875 0.43 2.4917 4.16667e-3
GW 23 3 0.6875 0.43 2.4917 0.6875 0.3758 2.6025 4.16667e-3
GW 24 3 0.6875 0.3758 2.6025 0.6875 0.255 2.5808 4.16667e-3
GW 25 3 0.6875 0.255 2.5808 0.6875 0.1342 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 26 3 0.6875 0.1342 2.5583 0.6875 0.0658 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 27 1 0.6875 0.0658 2.5583 0.6875 0.0242 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 28 1 0.7292 0.1342 2.425 0.6875 0.1342 2.425 4.16667e-3
GW 29 1 0.7292 0.255 2.4025 0.6875 0.255 2.4025 4.16667e-3
GW 30 1 0.7292 0.3758 2.3808 0.6875 0.3758 2.3808 4.16667e-3
GW 31 1 0.7292 0.43 2.4917 0.6875 0.43 2.4917 4.16667e-3
GW 32 1 0.7292 0.3758 2.6025 0.6875 0.3758 2.6025 4.16667e-3
GW 33 1 0.7292 0.255 2.5808 0.6875 0.255 2.5808 4.16667e-3
GW 34 1 0.7292 0.1342 2.5583 0.6875 0.1342 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 35 1 0.7292 0.0658 2.5583 0.6875 0.0658 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 36 1 0.7292 0.0242 2.5583 0.6875 0.0242 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 37 1 0.67 0.0658 2.5583 0.6875 0.0658 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 38 1 0.67 0.0658 2.5583 0.6292 0.0658 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 39 3 0.6875 0.0242 2.5583 0.6042 0.0242 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 40 1 0.6042 0.0242 2.5583 0.6042 0.0417 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 41 1 0.6042 0.0417 2.5583 0.6292 0.0658 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 42 3 0.6042 0.0242 2.5583 0.4583 0.0242 2.5583 2.08333e-3
GW 43 3 0.6042 0.0417 2.5583 0.4583 0.0417 2.5583 2.08333e-3
GW 44 1 0.4583 0.0242 2.5583 0.4583 0.0417 2.5583 2.08333e-3
GW 45 3 0.4583 0.0242 2.5583 0.3542 0.0242 2.5583 2.08333e-3
GW 46 3 0.4583 0.0417 2.5583 0.3542 0.0417 2.5583 2.08333e-3
GW 47 1 0.7083 -0.08 2.425 0.7183 -0.11 2.425 4.16667e-3
GW 48 1 0.7183 -0.11 2.425 0.7292 -0.149 2.425 4.16667e-3
GW 49 3 0.7292 -0.149 2.425 0.7292 -0.27 2.4025 4.16667e-3
GW 50 3 0.7292 -0.27 2.4025 0.7292 -0.391 2.3808 4.16667e-3
GW 51 3 0.7292 -0.391 2.3808 0.7292 -0.445 2.4917 4.16667e-3
GW 52 3 0.7292 -0.445 2.4917 0.7292 -0.391 2.6025 4.16667e-3
GW 53 3 0.7292 -0.391 2.6025 0.7292 -0.27 2.5808 4.16667e-3
GW 54 3 0.7292 -0.27 2.5808 0.7292 -0.149 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 55 3 0.7292 -0.149 2.5583 0.7292 -0.081 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 56 1 0.7292 -0.081 2.5583 0.7292 -0.039 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 57 1 0.7083 -0.08 2.425 0.6983 -0.11 2.425 4.16667e-3
GW 58 1 0.6983 -0.11 2.425 0.6875 -0.149 2.425 4.16667e-3
GW 59 3 0.6875 -0.149 2.425 0.6875 -0.27 2.4025 4.16667e-3
GW 60 3 0.6875 -0.27 2.4025 0.6875 -0.391 2.3808 4.16667e-3
GW 61 3 0.6875 -0.391 2.3808 0.6875 -0.445 2.4917 4.16667e-3
GW 62 3 0.6875 -0.445 2.4917 0.6875 -0.391 2.6025 4.16667e-3
GW 63 3 0.6875 -0.391 2.6025 0.6875 -0.27 2.5808 4.16667e-3
GW 64 3 0.6875 -0.27 2.5808 0.6875 -0.149 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 65 3 0.6875 -0.149 2.5583 0.6875 -0.081 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 66 1 0.6875 -0.081 2.5583 0.6875 -0.039 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 67 1 0.7292 -0.149 2.425 0.6875 -0.149 2.425 4.16667e-3
GW 68 1 0.7292 -0.27 2.4025 0.6875 -0.27 2.4025 4.16667e-3
GW 69 1 0.7292 -0.391 2.3808 0.6875 -0.391 2.3808 4.16667e-3
GW 70 1 0.7292 -0.445 2.4917 0.6875 -0.445 2.4917 4.16667e-3
GW 71 1 0.7292 -0.391 2.6025 0.6875 -0.391 2.6025 4.16667e-3
GW 72 1 0.7292 -0.27 2.5808 0.6875 -0.27 2.5808 4.16667e-3
GW 73 1 0.7292 -0.149 2.5583 0.6875 -0.149 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 74 1 0.7292 -0.081 2.5583 0.6875 -0.081 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 75 1 0.7292 -0.039 2.5583 0.6875 -0.039 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 76 1 0.67 -0.081 2.5583 0.6875 -0.081 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 77 1 0.67 -0.081 2.5583 0.6292 -0.081 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 78 3 0.6875 -0.039 2.5583 0.6042 -0.039 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 79 1 0.6042 -0.039 2.5583 0.6042 -0.057 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 80 1 0.6042 -0.057 2.5583 0.6292 -0.081 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 81 3 0.6042 -0.039 2.5583 0.4583 -0.039 2.5583 2.08333e-3
GW 82 3 0.6042 -0.057 2.5583 0.4583 -0.057 2.5583 2.08333e-3
GW 83 1 0.4583 -0.039 2.5583 0.4583 -0.057 2.5583 2.08333e-3
GW 84 3 0.4583 -0.039 2.5583 0.3542 -0.039 2.5583 2.08333e-3
GW 85 3 0.4583 -0.057 2.5583 0.3542 -0.057 2.5583 2.08333e-3
GW 86 3 0.67 0.0658 2.5583 0.6708 0.1217 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 87 1 0.6708 0.1217 2.5583 0.6708 0.1633 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 88 3 0.6292 0.0658 2.5583 0.6292 0.1217 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 89 1 0.6292 0.1217 2.5583 0.6292 0.1633 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 90 1 0.6708 0.1217 2.5583 0.6292 0.1217 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 91 1 0.6708 0.1633 2.5583 0.6292 0.1633 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 92 1 0.6292 0.1217 2.5583 0.5917 0.1425 2.5583 7.08333e-3
GW 93 1 0.6292 0.1633 2.5583 0.5917 0.1425 2.5583 7.08333e-3
GW 94 1 0.5917 0.1425 2.5583 0.5583 0.1425 2.5583 0.01041667
GW 95 3 0.67 -0.081 2.5583 0.6708 -0.137 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 96 1 0.6708 -0.137 2.5583 0.6708 -0.178 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 97 3 0.6292 -0.081 2.5583 0.6292 -0.137 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 98 1 0.6292 -0.137 2.5583 0.6292 -0.178 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 99 1 0.6708 -0.137 2.5583 0.6292 -0.137 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 100 1 0.6708 -0.178 2.5583 0.6292 -0.178 2.5583 4.16667e-3
GW 101 1 0.6292 -0.137 2.5583 0.5917 -0.158 2.5583 7.08333e-3
GW 102 1 0.6292 -0.178 2.5583 0.5917 -0.158 2.5583 7.08333e-3
GW 103 1 0.5917 -0.158 2.5583 0.5583 -0.158 2.5583 0.01041667
GW 104 3 0.7083 -0.08 2.425 0.7083 -0.01 2.425 2.11753e-3
GW 105 1 0.7083 0.06 2.425 0.7083 0.01 2.425 2.11753e-3
GW 106 3 0.7292 0.0242 2.5583 0.7292 -0.039 2.5583 2.11753e-3
GW 107 11 1.0003 0.25 2.5 1.0003 -0.25 2.5 Rdir
GW 108 11 1.2913 0.25 2.5 1.2913 -0.25 2.5 Rdir
GW 109 11 1.5833 0.25 2.5 1.5833 -0.25 2.5 Rdir
GW 110 11 1.8753 0.25 2.5 1.8753 -0.25 2.5 Rdir
GW 111 11 2.1666 0.25 2.5 2.1666 -0.25 2.5 Rdir
GW 112 11 2.4583 0.25 2.5 2.4583 -0.25 2.5 Rdir
GW 113 11 2.75 0.25 2.5 2.75 -0.25 2.5 Rdir
GW 114 11 3.0416 0.25 2.5 3.0416 -0.25 2.5 Rdir
GW 115 11 3.3333 0.25 2.5 3.3333 -0.25 2.5 Rdir
GW 116 11 3.6249 0.25 2.5 3.6249 -0.25 2.5 Rdir
GW 117 11 3.9166 0.25 2.5 3.9166 -0.25 2.5 Rdir
GW 118 11 4.2083 0.25 2.5 4.2083 -0.25 2.5 Rdir
GW 119 11 4.5 0.25 2.5 4.5 -0.25 2.5 Rdir
GW 120 11 4.7916 0.25 2.5 4.7916 -0.25 2.5 Rdir
GW 121 11 5.0833 0.25 2.5 5.0833 -0.25 2.5 Rdir
GW 122 11 5.375 0.25 2.5 5.375 -0.25 2.5 Rdir
GW 123 11 5.6667 0.25 2.5 5.6667 -0.25 2.5 Rdir
GW 124 11 5.9583 0.25 2.5 5.9583 -0.25 2.5 Rdir
GW 125 11 6.25 0.25 2.5 6.25 -0.25 2.5 Rdir
GW 126 11 6.5417 0.25 2.5 6.5417 -0.25 2.5 Rdir
GW 127 11 6.8333 0.25 2.5 6.8333 -0.25 2.5 Rdir
GW 128 11 7.125 0.25 2.5 7.125 -0.25 2.5 Rdir
GW 129 11 7.4167 0.25 2.5 7.4167 -0.25 2.5 Rdir
GW 130 11 7.7083 0.25 2.5 7.7083 -0.25 2.5 Rdir
GW 131 11 8 0.25 2.5 8 -0.25 2.5 Rdir
GW 132 1 0.7083 0.01 2.425 0.7083 -0.01 2.425 0.006	' Adjust for AGT=1.0
GS 0 0 0.3048 			' All in feet...YES FEET!!!!
GE 0
EK
LD 5 1 0 0 2.49e7 0
EX 0 132 1 0 1 0
GN -1
' FR 0 1 0 0 470 0		' fm kc2cbd
' RP 0 1 73 1510 90 0 1 5 0 0 	' fm kc2cbd
' FR Freq Sweep choices in order of increasing calculation time (fm holl_ands):
' FR 0 0 0 0 470 0		' Fixed Freq
FR 0 29 0 0 470 12		' Freq Sweep 470-806 every 12 MHz - OLD UHF BAND
' FR 0 34 0 0 410 12		' Freq Sweep 410-806 every 12 MHz - Even Wider Sweep
' FR 0 39 0 0 470 6		' Freq Sweep 470-698 every 6 MHz - PREFERRED FOR UHF
' FR 0 77 0 0 470 3		' Freq Sweep 470-698 every 3 MHz
' FR 0 153 0 0 470 1.5		' Freq Sweep 470-698 every 1.5 MHz
' FR 0 71 0 0 300 10		' Freq Sweep 300-1000 every 10 MHz - WIDEBAND SWEEP
' FR Hi-VHF choices:
' FR 0 15 0 0 174 3		' Freq Sweep 174-216 every 3 MHz
' FR 0 29 0 0 174 1.5		' Freq Sweep 174-216 every 1.5 MHz - PREFERRED
' FR 0 45 0 0 162 1.5		' Freq Sweep 162-228 every 1.5 MHz - Add +/- 12 MHz BW
' FR 0 27 0 0 189 1.5		' Freq Sweep 186-228 every 1.5 MHz - SPECIAL
' FR 0 43 0 0 174 1		' Freq Sweep 174-216 every 1 MHz - Hi-Rez
' FR 0 23 0 0 198 1		' Freq Sweep 198-220 every 1 MHz - Hi-Rez - Ch13 SPECIAL
' FR 0 26 0 0 150 6		' Freq Sweep 150-300 every 6 MHz - WIDEBAND SWEEP
' FR Lo-VHF choices:
' FR 0 19 0 0 54 3		' Frequency Sweep every 3 MHz for Ch2-6 + FM
' FR 0 35 0 0 54 1		' Frequency Sweep every 1 MHz for Ch2-6
' FR 0 36 0 0 75 1		' Frequency Sweep every 1 MHz for Ch5 + Ch6 + FM
' FR 0 28 0 0 54 6		' Wide Freq Sweep every 6 MHz for Ch2-13
' FR 0 64 0 0 54 12		' Super Wide Freq Sweep 54-810 every 12 MHz
' RP choices in order of increasing calculation time:
' RP 0 1 1 1510 90 90 1 1 0 0	' 1D Gain toward 0-deg Azimuth - SIDE GAIN
' RP 0 1 1 1510 90 0 1 1 0 0	' 1D Gain toward 90-deg Azimuth - FORWARD GAIN
' RP 0 1 1 1510 90 180 1 1 0 0	' 1D Gain toward 270-deg Azimuth - REVERSE GAIN
' RP 0 1 37 1510 90 0 1 5 0 0 	' 2D (Left only) Azimuthal Gain Slice
RP 0 1 73 1510 90 0 1 5 0 0	' 2D Azimuthal Gain Slice - PREFERRED
' RP 0 73 1 1510 90 0 5 1 0 0 	' 2D Elevation Gain Slice
' RP 0 73 73 1510 90 0 5 5 0 0 	' 3D Lower Hemisphere reveals antenna (Fixed Freq)
' RP 0 285 73 1510 90 0 5 5 0 0	' 3D Full Coverage obscures antenna (Fixed Freq)
EN
Note that I used "code" and "/code" VBcode tags to conserve display space, rather than "quote".
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Thanks holl_ands I will remember that for next time.
I appreciate the help.
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Old 2011-10-14, 07:53 PM   #72
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Here is an example of what I have recently been working on.
It's an 8-Element Yagi (without the extra Reflector Rods) 4nec2 file that is setup
to find an "Optimized" solution by randomly picking a bunch of "trial" antennas where
the elements Lengths and Spacing between Elements are random variables within
the specified "Min, Max" ranges.

Download & instructions for nikiml's python scripts are found here:
http://clients.teksavvy.com/~nickm/scripts.html
The scripts conveniently take care of AutoSegmentation, including reassignment
of the "center" segment for the EX Card....NOT sure re TL Card....

Once you see the pattern, it should be easy to add more Directors and Reflector Rods.
If you use a single variable to make most of the Directors the same size (as you have),
the search will run faster, however, I would make the first one (or two) Directors
individually variable, since they have a big influence on SWR.

BTW: Python optimization for the below file ran for about 1-1/2 DAYS on my Triple Core
Phenom II processor...and some are "only" 12-hours.

Most (not all) of my models use SYmbols: http://imageevent.com/holl_ands

========================================================
This particular 4nec2 file has an unusually large (40+ dB across Ch13) Front/Back Ratio,
although at the expense of Raw Gain (only 10-11 dB across Ch14) and Front/Rear Ratio.
I have many more runs, using different target-functions...my best is 13.7 dBi, but
with some minor detriment to F/B & F/R.....so I'm getting closer to K6STI's....

Compare to K6STI's 8-Element Ch13 Yagi (up to 13.3 dB Raw Gain with high F/B & F/R):
http://imageevent.com/holl_ands/yagis/ch138elk6sti

I'll (probably) be posting detailed results for the fol. 4nec2 file sometime "soon":
Code:
CM 
CM Input file: Ch13_8El_WiderFD_Yagi_MLE_F2R_Close.nec
CM Sweep ranges: 
CM R0 = (210, 2, 4) with target levels (14, 14)
CM SWR target: 2.5
CM Target function: ((0.8*max_ml/1.0)**2)+6*max_gain_diff+2*max_f2b_diff
CM 
CM Score 12.5462
CM 
CM
CM Ch13 9-El. WIDER Folded Dipole Yagi, non-FD optimized 4nec2 by nikiml, 10Sep2011
CM holl_ands mods: Added Folded Dipole via GW6-8 and FW and F2 SYmbol cards.
CM     Added Rsrc to adjust AGT=1.0 with AutoSeg(17), added RP/FR cards.
CM     BIGGER 4-in Sep. Between Elements in Folded Dipole.  MLE target-function
CM     Di=Separation Distance between Element(i-1) & Element(i).
CM     Li=Overall Length of Element(i).  FW=Width Between Folded Dipole Loops.
CE
SY S1=0
SY D2=10.12036' 5, 16.5
SY S2=S1+D2
SY D3=4.954352' 3, 10.5
SY S3=S2+D3
SY D4=10.03518' 5, 18.5
SY S4=S3+D4
SY D5=14.00297' 10.5, 20.5
SY S5=S4+D5
SY D6=11.69661' 10.5, 20.5
SY S6=S5+D6
SY D7=19.29743' 10.5, 20.5
SY S7=S6+D7
SY D8=11.11153' 10.5, 20.5
SY S8=S7+D8
'CM Element Lengths (min, max):
SY L1=29.13055' 20, 32
SY L2=29.74233' 20, 30
SY L3=24.67559' 21, 29
SY L4=20.15589' 20, 28
SY L5=23.07118' 10, 28
SY L6=20.76012' 10, 28
SY L7=23.06282' 10, 28
SY L8=23.28597' 10, 28
SY Relem=0.125
SY RACT=0.125
SY Rsrc=0.123
SY FW=4
SY Fpas=0.5
SY Foff=FW/2+Fpas' Folded Dipole Offset above Center of 1-in Boom
SY F2=FW-Foff'     Distance between Center of Boom and Folded Dipole Element
' First Element is Passive Reflector
GW 1 21 0.0 -L1/2 Fpas 0 L1/2 Fpas Relem
' Folded Dipole Element and interconnecting wires (rectangular vice rounded)
GW 5 23 S2 -L2/2 -F2 S2 L2/2 -F2 Rsrc
GW 6 3 S2 L2/2 Foff S2 L2/2 -F2 RACT
GW 7 3 S2 -L2/2 Foff S2 -L2/2 -F2 RACT
GW 8 21 S2 -L2/2 Foff S2 L2/2 Foff RACT
' Passive Directors
GW 9 17 S3 -L3/2 Fpas S3 L3/2 Fpas Relem
GW 10 14 S4 -L4/2 Fpas S4 L4/2 Fpas Relem
GW 11 16 S5 -L5/2 Fpas S5 L5/2 Fpas Relem
GW 12 15 S6 -L6/2 Fpas S6 L6/2 Fpas Relem
GW 13 16 S7 -L7/2 Fpas S7 L7/2 Fpas Relem
GW 14 16 S8 -L8/2 Fpas S8 L8/2 Fpas Relem
'
GS 0 0 0.0254			' All in inches.
GE 0
EK 0
LD 5 0 0 0 24900000		' Alum. Elements
EX 0 5 12 0 1 0
GN -1
' FR 0 1 0 0 211 1		' fm nikiml
' RP 0 1 73 1510 90 0 1 5 0 0	' fm nikiml
' FR Freq Sweep choices in order of increasing calculation time (fm holl_ands):
' FR 0 0 0 0 470 0		' Fixed Freq
' FR 0 29 0 0 470 12		' Freq Sweep 470-806 every 12 MHz - OLD UHF BAND
' FR 0 34 0 0 410 12		' Freq Sweep 410-806 every 12 MHz - Even Wider Sweep
' FR 0 39 0 0 470 6		' Freq Sweep 470-698 every 6 MHz - PREFERRED FOR UHF
' FR 0 77 0 0 470 3		' Freq Sweep 470-698 every 3 MHz
' FR 0 153 0 0 470 1.5		' Freq Sweep 470-698 every 1.5 MHz
' FR 0 71 0 0 300 10		' Freq Sweep 300-1000 every 10 MHz - WIDEBAND SWEEP
' FR Hi-VHF choices:
' FR 0 15 0 0 174 3		' Freq Sweep 174-216 every 3 MHz
' FR 0 29 0 0 174 1.5		' Freq Sweep 174-216 every 1.5 MHz - PREFERRED
' FR 0 45 0 0 162 1.5		' Freq Sweep 162-228 every 1.5 MHz - Add +/- 12 MHz BW
' FR 0 27 0 0 189 1.5		' Freq Sweep 186-228 every 1.5 MHz - SPECIAL
' FR 0 43 0 0 174 1		' Freq Sweep 174-216 every 1 MHz - Hi-Rez
FR 0 23 0 0 198 1   		' Freq Sweep 198-220 every 1 MHz - Hi-Rez - Ch13 SPECIAL
' FR 0 26 0 0 150 6		' Freq Sweep 150-300 every 6 MHz - WIDEBAND SWEEP
' FR Lo-VHF choices:
' FR 0 19 0 0 54 3		' Frequency Sweep every 3 MHz for Ch2-6 + FM
' FR 0 35 0 0 54 1		' Frequency Sweep every 1 MHz for Ch2-6
' FR 0 36 0 0 75 1		' Frequency Sweep every 1 MHz for Ch5 + Ch6 + FM
' FR 0 28 0 0 54 6		' Wide Freq Sweep every 6 MHz for Ch2-13
' FR 0 64 0 0 54 12		' Super Wide Freq Sweep 54-810 every 12 MHz
' RP choices in order of increasing calculation time:
' RP 0 1 1 1510 90 90 1 1 0 0	' 1D Gain toward 0-deg Azimuth - SIDE GAIN
' RP 0 1 1 1510 90 0 1 1 0 0	' 1D Gain toward 90-deg Azimuth - FORWARD GAIN
' RP 0 1 1 1510 90 180 1 1 0 0	' 1D Gain toward 270-deg Azimuth - REVERSE GAIN
' RP 0 1 37 1510 90 0 1 5 0 0 	' 2D (Left only) Azimuthal Gain Slice
RP 0 1 73 1510 90 0 1 5 0 0' 2D Azimuthal Gain Slice - PREFERRED
' RP 0 73 1 1510 90 0 5 1 0 0 	' 2D Elevation Gain Slice
' RP 0 73 73 1510 90 0 5 5 0 0 	' 3D Lower Hemisphere reveals antenna (Fixed Freq)
' RP 0 285 73 1510 90 0 5 5 0 0	' 3D Full Coverage obscures antenna (Fixed Freq)
EN
YES, I used a Non-Linear Cost Function to help reject (with extreme prejudice)
those trial solutions with ml (Mismatch Loss) exceeding my desired "cut-off" point.
Also, in this particular run I did NOT include f2r in the target-function and the
relative "importance" of gain error needs to be much more than for f2b.
In general, I would NOT use the "special case" target-function in the below *.bat file,
since it trades off TOO much Raw Gain. [Tweak...Tweak....Tweak....and Tweak again.....]

The python *.bat control file:
Code:
cd c:\Python27
python -m nec.opt --num-cores=3 -s(210,2,4) --auto-segmentation=21 --swr-target=2.5 -t(14,14) --f2b-target=35.0 --target-function=((0.8*max_ml/1.0)**2)+6*max_gain_diff+2*max_f2b_diff Ch13_8El_WiderFD_Yagi_MLE_F2R_Close.nec
pause
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Old 2011-10-14, 08:43 PM   #73
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Cool
Figured out what didn't look right. Was missing corner reflectors.
Still can't get the AGT to 1 though.

Code:
CM Custom UHF Yagi
CM by kc2cbd
CM 14Oct2011
CE
GW	1	23	0.25	0.5989	0.25	0.25	-0.599	0.25	0.015625
GW	2	23	0.25	0.5989	-0.25	0.25	-0.599	-0.25	0.015625
GW	3	23	0.4583	0.5989	0.4245	0.4583	-0.599	0.4245	0.015625
GW	4	23	0.4583	0.5989	-0.4245	0.4583	-0.599	-0.4245	0.015625
GW	5	23	0.6614	0.5989	0.6563	0.6614	-0.599	0.6563	0.015625
GW	6	23	0.6614	0.5989	-0.6563	0.6614	-0.599	-0.6563	0.015625
GW	7	29	1.11458	0.71875	1.015625	1.11458	-0.71875	1.01563	0.015625
GW	8	29	1.11458	0.71875	-1.01563	1.11458	-0.71875	-1.01563	0.015625
GW	9	29	1.46875	0.71875	1.3646	1.46875	-0.7188	1.3646	0.015625
GW	10	29	1.46875	0.71875	-1.36459	1.46875	-0.71875	-1.3646	0.015625
GW	11	51	0.3541	1.333	-1.366e-16	0.3541	-1.333	-1.366e-16	0.015625
GW	12	1	0.6458	0.06	-0.075	0.6558	0.1	-0.075	4.16667e-3
GW	13	1	0.6558	0.1	-0.075	0.6667	0.1342	-0.075	4.16667e-3
GW	14	3	0.6667	0.1342	-0.075	0.6667	0.255	-0.0975	4.16667e-3
GW	15	3	0.6667	0.255	-0.0975	0.6667	0.3758	-0.1192	4.16667e-3
GW	16	3	0.6667	0.3758	-0.1192	0.6667	0.43	-8.3e-3	4.16667e-3
GW	17	3	0.6667	0.43	-8.3e-3	0.6667	0.3758	0.1025	4.16667e-3
GW	18	3	0.6667	0.3758	0.1025	0.6667	0.255	0.0808	4.16667e-3
GW	19	3	0.6667	0.255	0.0808	0.6667	0.1342	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	20	3	0.6667	0.1342	0.0583	0.6667	0.0658	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	21	1	0.6667	0.0658	0.0583	0.6667	0.0242	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	22	1	0.6458	0.06	-0.075	0.6358	0.1	-0.075	4.16667e-3
GW	23	1	0.6358	0.1	-0.075	0.625	0.1342	-0.075	4.16667e-3
GW	24	3	0.625	0.1342	-0.075	0.625	0.255	-0.0975	4.16667e-3
GW	25	3	0.625	0.255	-0.0975	0.625	0.3758	-0.1192	4.16667e-3
GW	26	3	0.625	0.3758	-0.1192	0.625	0.43	-8.3e-3	4.16667e-3
GW	27	3	0.625	0.43	-8.3e-3	0.625	0.3758	0.1025	4.16667e-3
GW	28	3	0.625	0.3758	0.1025	0.625	0.255	0.0808	4.16667e-3
GW	29	3	0.625	0.255	0.0808	0.625	0.1342	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	30	3	0.625	0.1342	0.0583	0.625	0.0658	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	31	1	0.625	0.0658	0.0583	0.625	0.0242	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	32	1	0.6667	0.1342	-0.075	0.625	0.1342	-0.075	4.16667e-3
GW	33	1	0.6667	0.255	-0.0975	0.625	0.255	-0.0975	4.16667e-3
GW	34	1	0.6667	0.3758	-0.1192	0.625	0.3758	-0.1192	4.16667e-3
GW	35	1	0.6667	0.43	-8.3e-3	0.625	0.43	-8.3e-3	4.16667e-3
GW	36	1	0.6667	0.3758	0.1025	0.625	0.3758	0.1025	4.16667e-3
GW	37	1	0.6667	0.255	0.0808	0.625	0.255	0.0808	4.16667e-3
GW	38	1	0.6667	0.1342	0.0583	0.625	0.1342	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	39	1	0.6667	0.0658	0.0583	0.625	0.0658	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	40	1	0.6667	0.0242	0.0583	0.625	0.0242	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	41	1	0.6075	0.0658	0.0583	0.625	0.0658	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	42	1	0.6075	0.0658	0.0583	0.5667	0.0658	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	43	3	0.625	0.0242	0.0583	0.5417	0.0242	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	44	1	0.5417	0.0242	0.0583	0.5417	0.0417	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	45	1	0.5417	0.0417	0.0583	0.5667	0.0658	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	46	3	0.5417	0.0242	0.0583	0.3958	0.0242	0.0583	2.08333e-3
GW	47	3	0.5417	0.0417	0.0583	0.3958	0.0417	0.0583	2.08333e-3
GW	48	1	0.3958	0.0242	0.0583	0.3958	0.0417	0.0583	2.08333e-3
GW	49	3	0.3958	0.0242	0.0583	0.2917	0.0242	0.0583	2.08333e-3
GW	50	3	0.3958	0.0417	0.0583	0.2917	0.0417	0.0583	2.08333e-3
GW	51	1	0.6458	-0.08	-0.075	0.6558	-0.11	-0.075	4.16667e-3
GW	52	1	0.6558	-0.11	-0.075	0.6667	-0.149	-0.075	4.16667e-3
GW	53	3	0.6667	-0.149	-0.075	0.6667	-0.27	-0.0975	4.16667e-3
GW	54	3	0.6667	-0.27	-0.0975	0.6667	-0.391	-0.1192	4.16667e-3
GW	55	3	0.6667	-0.391	-0.1192	0.6667	-0.445	-8.3e-3	4.16667e-3
GW	56	3	0.6667	-0.445	-8.3e-3	0.6667	-0.391	0.1025	4.16667e-3
GW	57	3	0.6667	-0.391	0.1025	0.6667	-0.27	0.0808	4.16667e-3
GW	58	3	0.6667	-0.27	0.0808	0.6667	-0.149	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	59	3	0.6667	-0.149	0.0583	0.6667	-0.081	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	60	1	0.6667	-0.081	0.0583	0.6667	-0.039	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	61	1	0.6458	-0.08	-0.075	0.6358	-0.11	-0.075	4.16667e-3
GW	62	1	0.6358	-0.11	-0.075	0.625	-0.149	-0.075	4.16667e-3
GW	63	3	0.625	-0.149	-0.075	0.625	-0.27	-0.0975	4.16667e-3
GW	64	3	0.625	-0.27	-0.0975	0.625	-0.391	-0.1192	4.16667e-3
GW	65	3	0.625	-0.391	-0.1192	0.625	-0.445	-8.3e-3	4.16667e-3
GW	66	3	0.625	-0.445	-8.3e-3	0.625	-0.391	0.1025	4.16667e-3
GW	67	3	0.625	-0.391	0.1025	0.625	-0.27	0.0808	4.16667e-3
GW	68	3	0.625	-0.27	0.0808	0.625	-0.149	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	69	3	0.625	-0.149	0.0583	0.625	-0.081	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	70	1	0.625	-0.081	0.0583	0.625	-0.039	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	71	1	0.6667	-0.149	-0.075	0.625	-0.149	-0.075	4.16667e-3
GW	72	1	0.6667	-0.27	-0.0975	0.625	-0.27	-0.0975	4.16667e-3
GW	73	1	0.6667	-0.391	-0.1192	0.625	-0.391	-0.1192	4.16667e-3
GW	74	1	0.6667	-0.445	-8.3e-3	0.625	-0.445	-8.3e-3	4.16667e-3
GW	75	1	0.6667	-0.391	0.1025	0.625	-0.391	0.1025	4.16667e-3
GW	76	1	0.6667	-0.27	0.0808	0.625	-0.27	0.0808	4.16667e-3
GW	77	1	0.6667	-0.149	0.0583	0.625	-0.149	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	78	1	0.6667	-0.081	0.0583	0.625	-0.081	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	79	1	0.6667	-0.039	0.0583	0.625	-0.039	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	80	1	0.6075	-0.081	0.0583	0.625	-0.081	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	81	1	0.6075	-0.081	0.0583	0.5667	-0.081	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	82	3	0.625	-0.039	0.0583	0.5417	-0.039	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	83	1	0.5417	-0.039	0.0583	0.5417	-0.057	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	84	1	0.5417	-0.057	0.0583	0.5667	-0.081	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	85	3	0.5417	-0.039	0.0583	0.3958	-0.039	0.0583	2.08333e-3
GW	86	3	0.5417	-0.057	0.0583	0.3958	-0.057	0.0583	2.08333e-3
GW	87	1	0.3958	-0.039	0.0583	0.3958	-0.057	0.0583	2.08333e-3
GW	88	3	0.3958	-0.039	0.0583	0.2917	-0.039	0.0583	2.08333e-3
GW	89	3	0.3958	-0.057	0.0583	0.2917	-0.057	0.0583	2.08333e-3
GW	90	3	0.6075	0.0658	0.0583	0.6083	0.1217	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	91	1	0.6083	0.1217	0.0583	0.6083	0.1633	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	92	3	0.5667	0.0658	0.0583	0.5667	0.1217	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	93	1	0.5667	0.1217	0.0583	0.5667	0.1633	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	94	1	0.6083	0.1217	0.0583	0.5667	0.1217	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	95	1	0.6083	0.1633	0.0583	0.5667	0.1633	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	96	1	0.5667	0.1217	0.0583	0.5292	0.1425	0.0583	7.08333e-3
GW	97	1	0.5667	0.1633	0.0583	0.5292	0.1425	0.0583	7.08333e-3
GW	98	1	0.5292	0.1425	0.0583	0.4958	0.1425	0.0583	0.01041667
GW	99	3	0.6075	-0.081	0.0583	0.6083	-0.137	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	100	1	0.6083	-0.137	0.0583	0.6083	-0.178	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	101	3	0.5667	-0.081	0.0583	0.5667	-0.137	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	102	1	0.5667	-0.137	0.0583	0.5667	-0.178	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	103	1	0.6083	-0.137	0.0583	0.5667	-0.137	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	104	1	0.6083	-0.178	0.0583	0.5667	-0.178	0.0583	4.16667e-3
GW	105	1	0.5667	-0.137	0.0583	0.5292	-0.158	0.0583	7.08333e-3
GW	106	1	0.5667	-0.178	0.0583	0.5292	-0.158	0.0583	7.08333e-3
GW	107	1	0.5292	-0.158	0.0583	0.4958	-0.158	0.0583	0.01041667
GW	108	3	0.6458	-0.08	-0.075	0.6458	-0.01	-0.075	2.11753e-3
GW	109	1	0.6458	0.06	-0.075	0.6458	0.01	-0.075	2.11753e-3
GW	110	3	0.6667	0.0242	0.0583	0.6667	-0.039	0.0583	2.11753e-3
GW	111	11	0.9378	0.25	-1.366e-16	0.9378	-0.25	-1.366e-16	0.015625
GW	112	11	1.2288	0.25	-1.366e-16	1.2288	-0.25	-1.366e-16	0.015625
GW	113	11	1.5208	0.25	-1.366e-16	1.5208	-0.25	-1.366e-16	0.015625
GW	114	11	1.8128	0.25	-1.366e-16	1.8128	-0.25	-1.366e-16	0.03125
GW	115	11	2.1041	0.25	-1.366e-16	2.1041	-0.25	-1.366e-16	0.015625
GW	116	11	2.3958	0.25	-1.366e-16	2.3958	-0.25	-1.366e-16	0.03125
GW	117	11	2.6875	0.25	-1.366e-16	2.6875	-0.25	-1.366e-16	0.015625
GW	118	11	2.9791	0.25	-1.366e-16	2.9791	-0.25	-1.366e-16	0.015625
GW	119	11	3.2708	0.25	-1.366e-16	3.2708	-0.25	-1.366e-16	0.015625
GW	120	11	3.5624	0.25	-1.366e-16	3.5624	-0.25	-1.366e-16	0.015625
GW	121	11	3.8541	0.25	-1.366e-16	3.8541	-0.25	-1.366e-16	0.015625
GW	122	11	4.1458	0.25	-1.366e-16	4.1458	-0.25	-1.366e-16	0.015625
GW	123	11	4.4375	0.25	-1.366e-16	4.4375	-0.25	-1.366e-16	0.015625
GW	124	11	4.7291	0.25	-1.366e-16	4.7291	-0.25	-1.366e-16	0.015625
GW	125	11	5.0208	0.25	-1.366e-16	5.0208	-0.25	-1.366e-16	0.015625
GW	126	11	5.3125	0.25	-1.366e-16	5.3125	-0.25	-1.366e-16	0.015625
GW	127	11	5.6042	0.25	-1.366e-16	5.6042	-0.25	-1.366e-16	0.015625
GW	128	11	5.8958	0.25	-1.366e-16	5.8958	-0.25	-1.366e-16	0.015625
GW	129	11	6.1875	0.25	-1.366e-16	6.1875	-0.25	-1.366e-16	0.015625
GW	130	11	6.4792	0.25	-1.366e-16	6.4792	-0.25	-1.366e-16	0.015625
GW	131	11	6.7708	0.25	-1.366e-16	6.7708	-0.25	-1.366e-16	0.015625
GW	132	11	7.0625	0.25	-1.366e-16	7.0625	-0.25	-1.366e-16	0.015625
GW	133	11	7.3542	0.25	-1.366e-16	7.3542	-0.25	-1.366e-16	0.015625
GW	134	11	7.6458	0.25	-1.366e-16	7.6458	-0.25	-1.366e-16	0.015625
GW	135	11	7.9375	0.25	-1.366e-16	7.9375	-0.25	-1.366e-16	0.015625
GW	136	1	0.6458	0.01	-0.075	0.6458	-0.01	-0.075	0.006
GS	0	0	0.3048
GE	0
LD	5	1	0	0	24900000
GN	-1
EK
EX	0	136	1	0	1	0	0	0
FR	0	9	0	0	470	0.5
RP	0	1	73	1510	90	0	1	5	0	0
EN
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Old 2011-10-14, 08:52 PM   #74
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Just so you all know I'm running 4nec2 in Linux under wine.
I do have the python-necpp installed.
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Old 2011-10-15, 02:57 AM   #75
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Ok I went back to a CM3671 file that I think 300ohm supplied somewhere.
I removed all but the UHF dipole.
For some reason there are alot of odd radii in the nec file.
I can't get this resulting model to produce a AGT of 1.
I figure that is part of the problem with my model above, because I used this for the dipole in that model. I figured why reinvent the wheel when that is the dipole I'm trying to use on my new antenna.

Code:
CM CM3671_UHF_Dipole_Only.nec
CM CM3671 UHF dipole only : converted 15 Oct 2011
CM Extracted from file CM3671.nec
CE
GW	1	3	0.4083	0.0167	1.4667	0.475	0	1.45	2.08333e-3
GW	2	3	0.4083	-0.042	1.4667	0.475	-0.025	1.45	2.08333e-3
GW	3	3	0.325	0.0813	1.55	0.4083	0.0167	1.4667	4.16667e-3
GW	4	3	0.325	-0.106	1.55	0.4083	-0.042	1.4667	4.16667e-3
GW	5	1	0.325	0.0813	1.55	0.3375	0.1042	1.55	4.16667e-3
GW	6	1	0.3375	0.1042	1.55	0.3458	0.1292	1.55	4.16667e-3
GW	7	3	0.3458	0.1292	1.55	0.3458	0.25	1.5275	4.16667e-3
GW	8	3	0.3458	0.25	1.5275	0.3458	0.3708	1.5058	4.16667e-3
GW	9	3	0.3458	0.3708	1.5058	0.3458	0.425	1.6167	4.16667e-3
GW	10	3	0.3458	0.425	1.6167	0.3458	0.3708	1.7275	4.16667e-3
GW	11	3	0.3458	0.3708	1.7275	0.3458	0.25	1.7058	4.16667e-3
GW	12	3	0.3458	0.25	1.7058	0.3458	0.1292	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	13	3	0.3458	0.1292	1.6833	0.3458	0.0608	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	14	1	0.3458	0.0608	1.6833	0.3458	0.0192	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	15	1	0.325	0.0813	1.55	0.3125	0.1042	1.55	4.16667e-3
GW	16	1	0.3125	0.1042	1.55	0.3041	0.1292	1.55	4.16667e-3
GW	17	3	0.3041	0.1292	1.55	0.3041	0.25	1.5275	4.16667e-3
GW	18	3	0.3041	0.25	1.5275	0.3041	0.3708	1.5058	4.16667e-3
GW	19	3	0.3041	0.3708	1.5058	0.3041	0.425	1.6167	4.16667e-3
GW	20	3	0.3041	0.425	1.6167	0.3041	0.3708	1.7275	4.16667e-3
GW	21	3	0.3041	0.3708	1.7275	0.3041	0.25	1.7058	4.16667e-3
GW	22	3	0.3041	0.25	1.7058	0.3041	0.1292	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	23	3	0.3041	0.1292	1.6833	0.3041	0.0608	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	24	1	0.3041	0.0608	1.6833	0.3041	0.0192	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	25	1	0.3458	0.1292	1.55	0.3041	0.1292	1.55	4.16667e-3
GW	26	1	0.3458	0.25	1.5275	0.3041	0.25	1.5275	4.16667e-3
GW	27	1	0.3458	0.3708	1.5058	0.3041	0.3708	1.5058	4.16667e-3
GW	28	1	0.3458	0.425	1.6167	0.3041	0.425	1.6167	4.16667e-3
GW	29	1	0.3458	0.3708	1.7275	0.3041	0.3708	1.7275	4.16667e-3
GW	30	1	0.3458	0.25	1.7058	0.3041	0.25	1.7058	4.16667e-3
GW	31	1	0.3458	0.1292	1.6833	0.3041	0.1292	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	32	1	0.3458	0.0608	1.6833	0.3041	0.0608	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	33	1	0.3458	0.0192	1.6833	0.3041	0.0192	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	34	1	0.2866	0.0608	1.6833	0.3041	0.0608	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	35	1	0.2866	0.0608	1.6833	0.2458	0.0608	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	36	3	0.3041	0.0192	1.6833	0.2208	0.0192	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	37	1	0.2208	0.0192	1.6833	0.2208	0.0367	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	38	1	0.2208	0.0367	1.6833	0.2458	0.0608	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	39	3	0.2208	0.0192	1.6833	0.075	0.0192	1.6833	2.08333e-3
GW	40	3	0.2208	0.0367	1.6833	0.075	0.0367	1.6833	2.08333e-3
GW	41	1	0.075	0.0192	1.6833	0.075	0.0367	1.6833	2.08333e-3
GW	42	3	0.075	0.0192	1.6833	-0.0297	0.0192	1.6833	2.08333e-3
GW	43	3	0.075	0.0367	1.6833	-0.0297	0.0367	1.6833	2.08333e-3
GW	44	1	0.325	-0.106	1.55	0.3375	-0.129	1.55	4.16667e-3
GW	45	1	0.3375	-0.129	1.55	0.3458	-0.154	1.55	4.16667e-3
GW	46	3	0.3458	-0.154	1.55	0.3458	-0.275	1.5275	4.16667e-3
GW	47	3	0.3458	-0.275	1.5275	0.3458	-0.396	1.5058	4.16667e-3
GW	48	3	0.3458	-0.396	1.5058	0.3458	-0.45	1.6167	4.16667e-3
GW	49	3	0.3458	-0.45	1.6167	0.3458	-0.396	1.7275	4.16667e-3
GW	50	3	0.3458	-0.396	1.7275	0.3458	-0.275	1.7058	4.16667e-3
GW	51	3	0.3458	-0.275	1.7058	0.3458	-0.154	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	52	3	0.3458	-0.154	1.6833	0.3458	-0.086	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	53	1	0.3458	-0.086	1.6833	0.3458	-0.044	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	54	1	0.325	-0.106	1.55	0.3125	-0.129	1.55	4.16667e-3
GW	55	1	0.3125	-0.129	1.55	0.3041	-0.154	1.55	4.16667e-3
GW	56	3	0.3041	-0.154	1.55	0.3041	-0.275	1.5275	4.16667e-3
GW	57	3	0.3041	-0.275	1.5275	0.3041	-0.396	1.5058	4.16667e-3
GW	58	3	0.3041	-0.396	1.5058	0.3041	-0.45	1.6167	4.16667e-3
GW	59	3	0.3041	-0.45	1.6167	0.3041	-0.396	1.7275	4.16667e-3
GW	60	3	0.3041	-0.396	1.7275	0.3041	-0.275	1.7058	4.16667e-3
GW	61	3	0.3041	-0.275	1.7058	0.3041	-0.154	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	62	3	0.3041	-0.154	1.6833	0.3041	-0.086	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	63	1	0.3041	-0.086	1.6833	0.3041	-0.044	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	64	1	0.3458	-0.154	1.55	0.3041	-0.154	1.55	4.16667e-3
GW	65	1	0.3458	-0.275	1.5275	0.3041	-0.275	1.5275	4.16667e-3
GW	66	1	0.3458	-0.396	1.5058	0.3041	-0.396	1.5058	4.16667e-3
GW	67	1	0.3458	-0.45	1.6167	0.3041	-0.45	1.6167	4.16667e-3
GW	68	1	0.3458	-0.396	1.7275	0.3041	-0.396	1.7275	4.16667e-3
GW	69	1	0.3458	-0.275	1.7058	0.3041	-0.275	1.7058	4.16667e-3
GW	70	1	0.3458	-0.154	1.6833	0.3041	-0.154	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	71	1	0.3458	-0.086	1.6833	0.3041	-0.086	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	72	1	0.3458	-0.044	1.6833	0.3041	-0.044	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	73	1	0.2866	-0.086	1.6833	0.3041	-0.086	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	74	1	0.2866	-0.086	1.6833	0.2458	-0.086	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	75	3	0.3041	-0.044	1.6833	0.2208	-0.044	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	76	1	0.2208	-0.044	1.6833	0.2208	-0.062	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	77	1	0.2208	-0.062	1.6833	0.2458	-0.086	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	78	3	0.2208	-0.044	1.6833	0.075	-0.044	1.6833	2.08333e-3
GW	79	3	0.2208	-0.062	1.6833	0.075	-0.062	1.6833	2.08333e-3
GW	80	1	0.075	-0.044	1.6833	0.075	-0.062	1.6833	2.08333e-3
GW	81	3	0.075	-0.044	1.6833	-0.0297	-0.044	1.6833	2.08333e-3
GW	82	3	0.075	-0.062	1.6833	-0.0297	-0.062	1.6833	2.08333e-3
GW	83	1	0.2866	0.0608	1.6833	0.2875	0.1167	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	84	1	0.2875	0.1167	1.6833	0.2875	0.1583	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	85	1	0.2458	0.0608	1.6833	0.2458	0.1167	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	86	1	0.2458	0.1167	1.6833	0.2458	0.1583	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	87	1	0.2875	0.1167	1.6833	0.2458	0.1167	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	88	1	0.2875	0.1583	1.6833	0.2458	0.1583	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	89	1	0.2458	0.1167	1.6833	0.2083	0.1375	1.6833	7.08333e-3
GW	90	1	0.2458	0.1583	1.6833	0.2083	0.1375	1.6833	7.08333e-3
GW	91	1	0.2083	0.1375	1.6833	0.175	0.1375	1.6833	0.01041667
GW	92	1	0.2866	-0.086	1.6833	0.2875	-0.142	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	93	1	0.2875	-0.142	1.6833	0.2875	-0.183	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	94	1	0.2458	-0.086	1.6833	0.2458	-0.142	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	95	1	0.2458	-0.142	1.6833	0.2458	-0.183	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	96	1	0.2875	-0.142	1.6833	0.2458	-0.142	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	97	1	0.2875	-0.183	1.6833	0.2458	-0.183	1.6833	4.16667e-3
GW	98	1	0.2458	-0.142	1.6833	0.2083	-0.163	1.6833	7.08333e-3
GW	99	1	0.2458	-0.183	1.6833	0.2083	-0.163	1.6833	7.08333e-3
GW	100	1	0.2083	-0.163	1.6833	0.175	-0.163	1.6833	0.01041667
GW	101	1	0.475	0	1.45	0.475	-0.025	1.45	0.006
GS	0	0	0.3048
GE	0
LD	5	0	0	0	24900000
GN	-1
EK
EX	0	101	1	0	1	0	0
FR	0	0	0	0	583.95	0
EN
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