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903ASP · 2011-09-02, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jase88

The report TVFool generates creates a link for forums--so others can view the report without providing your specific location. Can you copy and paste that link here? Thanks.

I guess this would be the link you were asking for JASE88?

http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...838774b46ef508

majortom · 2011-09-03, 12:11 AM

903ASP,

yes that would be the one. Since you said your antenna is on a hill, 100 feet or so higher than your house, you have to be very careful that the coordinates u plugged in reflect where the antenna is, and not the coordinates of ur house. I'm not sure how accurate the terrain data is that they use for TvFool. i.e. - the resolution of the terrain data may very well miss that hill and/or valley. There are tradeoffs between terrain data accuracy, terrain data file size used on the server, and computation time.

Alternatively you could probably plug in the exact coordinates of your house (see the ota faq for instructions on obtaining your exact coordinates), fake it out using a receive antenna height of 110 ft and see if it improves much. If it doesn't, ur probably gonna have a difficult time getting any signal as you may have already found out. May just be too many hills between you and the TV transmitters.
To confirm if that is what is going on, see what happens at 110' and post the new link, then we'll advise from there

pr92 · 2011-09-03, 09:18 PM

Woah! I didn't know this thread even existed.

Anyway, I'm getting CFTO pretty reliably using a 30+ year old set of rabbit ears. CBLT, the Toronto station I'm most interested in, isn't coming in as well though. It's hit and miss, sometimes it'll work fine, sometimes it's too glitchy, and sometimes it doesn't work at all. I'm wondering if anyone in the area knows the name of a good antenna installer.

Thanks

Humbar · 2011-09-03, 10:31 PM

Their is a guy in your neck of the woods. I think his company is RWAntennaSat. Trying looking that one up.

buffalofan19 · 2011-09-15, 08:36 PM

Just flipping through channels, CBLFT appears on channel 53896-3. Didn't even know my TV could count that high.

EDIT: CBLT is also coming in on Channel 1-3, as well as 20-3.

Chips · 2011-09-16, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by majortom

903ASP,

yes that would be the one. Since you said your antenna is on a hill, 100 feet or so higher than your house, you have to be very careful that the coordinates u plugged in reflect where the antenna is, and not the coordinates of ur house. I'm not sure how accurate the terrain data is that they use for TvFool. i.e. - the resolution of the terrain data may very well miss that hill and/or valley. There are tradeoffs between terrain data accuracy, terrain data file size used on the server, and computation time.

Alternatively you could probably plug in the exact coordinates of your house (see the ota faq for instructions on obtaining your exact coordinates), fake it out using a receive antenna height of 110 ft and see if it improves much. If it doesn't, ur probably gonna have a difficult time getting any signal as you may have already found out. May just be too many hills between you and the TV transmitters.
To confirm if that is what is going on, see what happens at 110' and post the new link, then we'll advise from there

My experience with TVFool is that the version that says look up you address on the map, seems to factor in terrain. However TVFool is still just guessing. I recently help set up antennas in two different location. First one was outside of Whitesville NY, the TVFool gave me the Elmira NY stations being available with a decent signal strength. We couldn't get Elmira, but we did get an awesome signal out of Buffalo, 2,4 and 7. The second set-up was north of Angelica NY, Tvfool show two stations available, WKBW 7, and WPXJ Ion. We got WGRZ 2, without any amplification, and Ion is a strong signal there. When I put a 10 db injector on the antenna I got WIVB 4, but the injector I was using went bad, so I came back with a 28 db pre-amp, thinking I would get Ch.4 again, but I didn't, I am going, with a Attenuator to cut back the gain, to see if I get WIVB again,
we never could lock onto WKBW 7. Anyhow Tvfool was not accurate as to what I could get in either location, I have found Tvfool very accurate in other locations, but it is obviously not always accurate.

buffalofan19 · 2011-09-29, 08:58 AM

Has anyone in the Buffalo area found a "sweet spot" for both Hamilton and Toronto? For CHCH, I have to move my CM 4228 almost 40 degrees from Toronto in order to get the signal most reliably (and usually that's only at night). At that position, CFTO (VHF 9) still comes in okay, but all the UHF Toronto stations seem to go away. Occasionally, CBLT (UHF 40) will come in choppy, but Global, TVO are nowhere to be found, and none of the Rogers channels (Omni 1 & 2, and CITY) even have a prayer at that position.

buffalofan19 · 2011-10-02, 12:31 PM

CFTO has crapped out on me for the first time since the transition.

Nevermind, it's fixed now.

Humbar · 2011-11-27, 07:57 PM

Any of you guys down south now receiving CFMT and CITY?? It appears they have moved to the CN Tower.

buffalofan19 · 2011-11-27, 08:22 PM

I have it, but the signal isn't any especially strong. It's always been intermittent for me.

It's cloudy and rainy, which is when my signals seem to be the best, so it's kind of a bad indicator.

majortom · 2011-11-27, 08:39 PM

ditto, CFMT 47 is coming in now (no dice on the pc tuner though), warm weather lately so no warm fuzzy for reliability here.
a whiff of 44 CITY, but that's so close to the strong local 43 WNED I would hardly ever expect CITY to come in at all much less reliably.
Not even a whiff on rf 51 which i have seen in the past on strong tropo.

buffalofan19 · 2011-11-28, 12:14 PM

I seem to get CITY a little better and more frequently than most people in the Buffalo area, but I don't know if I'm just far enough to the side of Grand Island to make a difference, or it's the fact that I don't use an amp or a pre-amp (overload issues compounded by WNED 43). I seem to be in a different boat than most OTA users in Buffalo. I just wanted CBLT for Hockey Night in Canada. Since I didn't need an amp or pre-amp for that, I didn't get one. It's sounding more like a blessing in disguise. CFTO has been solid as a rock for me though, as well. I like the picture on Bills games better than on WIVB, plus the feed always seems to be about 3-5 seconds ahead.

buffalofan19 · 2011-12-13, 10:20 PM

Anyone in Buffalo getting CITY or Omni? Right now, my signal is a little bit better than normal, but I also see there is some favorable conditions making every channel look good, so I can't tell.

majortom · 2011-12-13, 10:43 PM

No, not tonite. None of the Rogers stations. Would have to be really strong tropo here.
The rest of the TO stations are in as usual, including CFTO.
CHCH will come in if I were to move the rotor at Hamilton.

Edit: Are you seeing anything from Erie, or Rochester?
Usually when conditions are favorable (approaching warm front, going from cold->warm) all 3 markets boom in
or are at least whiffable, ~ the same time

buffalofan19 · 2011-12-13, 11:43 PM

I hadn't tried. I'd have to move my rotor towards there. I just wondered about Rogers' move to the CN Tower, and whether or not it's happened yet. I usually get the channels half the time I try for them. Again, the people who don't around here are ones that have used pre-amps, so CITY is going to run into some overload issues with WNED. I've noticed the same with an amp I have, so I don't use it.

2011-09-03, 12:11 AM	#107
majortom Veteran Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,567	903ASP, yes that would be the one. Since you said your antenna is on a hill, 100 feet or so higher than your house, you have to be very careful that the coordinates u plugged in reflect where the antenna is, and not the coordinates of ur house. I'm not sure how accurate the terrain data is that they use for TvFool. i.e. - the resolution of the terrain data may very well miss that hill and/or valley. There are tradeoffs between terrain data accuracy, terrain data file size used on the server, and computation time. Alternatively you could probably plug in the exact coordinates of your house (see the ota faq for instructions on obtaining your exact coordinates), fake it out using a receive antenna height of 110 ft and see if it improves much. If it doesn't, ur probably gonna have a difficult time getting any signal as you may have already found out. May just be too many hills between you and the TV transmitters. To confirm if that is what is going on, see what happens at 110' and post the new link, then we'll advise from there __________________ uhf/vhf combo rotor chimney mount homebrew vhf hi hpf ap-8700 preamp 4way split lg lcd dtt901 pctuner mythtv

2011-09-03, 09:18 PM	#108
pr92 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: East Amherst, NY (Near Buffalo) Posts: 54	Woah! I didn't know this thread even existed. Anyway, I'm getting CFTO pretty reliably using a 30+ year old set of rabbit ears. CBLT, the Toronto station I'm most interested in, isn't coming in as well though. It's hit and miss, sometimes it'll work fine, sometimes it's too glitchy, and sometimes it doesn't work at all. I'm wondering if anyone in the area knows the name of a good antenna installer. Thanks Last edited by pr92; 2011-09-03 at 10:34 PM.

2011-11-27, 08:39 PM	#116
majortom Veteran Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,567	ditto, CFMT 47 is coming in now (no dice on the pc tuner though), warm weather lately so no warm fuzzy for reliability here. a whiff of 44 CITY, but that's so close to the strong local 43 WNED I would hardly ever expect CITY to come in at all much less reliably. Not even a whiff on rf 51 which i have seen in the past on strong tropo. __________________ uhf/vhf combo rotor chimney mount homebrew vhf hi hpf ap-8700 preamp 4way split lg lcd dtt901 pctuner mythtv

2011-12-13, 10:43 PM	#119
majortom Veteran Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,567	No, not tonite. None of the Rogers stations. Would have to be really strong tropo here. The rest of the TO stations are in as usual, including CFTO. CHCH will come in if I were to move the rotor at Hamilton. Edit: Are you seeing anything from Erie, or Rochester? Usually when conditions are favorable (approaching warm front, going from cold->warm) all 3 markets boom in or are at least whiffable, ~ the same time __________________ uhf/vhf combo rotor chimney mount homebrew vhf hi hpf ap-8700 preamp 4way split lg lcd dtt901 pctuner mythtv

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2011-09-03, 10:31 PM	#109
Humbar Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 453	Their is a guy in your neck of the woods. I think his company is RWAntennaSat. Trying looking that one up.

2011-09-15, 08:36 PM	#110
buffalofan19 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Cheektowaga, NY Posts: 154	Just flipping through channels, CBLFT appears on channel 53896-3. Didn't even know my TV could count that high. EDIT: CBLT is also coming in on Channel 1-3, as well as 20-3.

2011-09-29, 08:58 AM	#112
buffalofan19 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Cheektowaga, NY Posts: 154	Has anyone in the Buffalo area found a "sweet spot" for both Hamilton and Toronto? For CHCH, I have to move my CM 4228 almost 40 degrees from Toronto in order to get the signal most reliably (and usually that's only at night). At that position, CFTO (VHF 9) still comes in okay, but all the UHF Toronto stations seem to go away. Occasionally, CBLT (UHF 40) will come in choppy, but Global, TVO are nowhere to be found, and none of the Rogers channels (Omni 1 & 2, and CITY) even have a prayer at that position.

2011-10-02, 12:31 PM	#113
buffalofan19 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Cheektowaga, NY Posts: 154	CFTO has crapped out on me for the first time since the transition. Nevermind, it's fixed now.

2011-11-27, 07:57 PM	#114
Humbar Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 453	Any of you guys down south now receiving CFMT and CITY?? It appears they have moved to the CN Tower.

2011-11-27, 08:22 PM	#115
buffalofan19 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Cheektowaga, NY Posts: 154	I have it, but the signal isn't any especially strong. It's always been intermittent for me. It's cloudy and rainy, which is when my signals seem to be the best, so it's kind of a bad indicator.

2011-11-28, 12:14 PM	#117
buffalofan19 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Cheektowaga, NY Posts: 154	I seem to get CITY a little better and more frequently than most people in the Buffalo area, but I don't know if I'm just far enough to the side of Grand Island to make a difference, or it's the fact that I don't use an amp or a pre-amp (overload issues compounded by WNED 43). I seem to be in a different boat than most OTA users in Buffalo. I just wanted CBLT for Hockey Night in Canada. Since I didn't need an amp or pre-amp for that, I didn't get one. It's sounding more like a blessing in disguise. CFTO has been solid as a rock for me though, as well. I like the picture on Bills games better than on WIVB, plus the feed always seems to be about 3-5 seconds ahead.

2011-12-13, 10:20 PM	#118
buffalofan19 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Cheektowaga, NY Posts: 154	Anyone in Buffalo getting CITY or Omni? Right now, my signal is a little bit better than normal, but I also see there is some favorable conditions making every channel look good, so I can't tell.

2011-12-13, 11:43 PM	#120
buffalofan19 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Cheektowaga, NY Posts: 154	I hadn't tried. I'd have to move my rotor towards there. I just wondered about Rogers' move to the CN Tower, and whether or not it's happened yet. I usually get the channels half the time I try for them. Again, the people who don't around here are ones that have used pre-amps, so CITY is going to run into some overload issues with WNED. I've noticed the same with an amp I have, so I don't use it.