NY - Buffalo, Southern Tier, Batavia, Rochester, Syracuse

[videobruce]

Right alone Lake Ontario.............

[dsspredator]

Originally Posted by videobruce

53 as it stands isn't possible south of Toronto for any great distance.

I am directly 32 miles south of the CN tower and I can see it from my roof. With my CM 4228 and 75 feet of RG6 53-1 is the ONLY channel that I can not lock.

[videobruce]

32 miles, line of sight, over water isn't a "great distance"!

[026163]

Video bruce i believe what he's trying to say is that being directly across the lake from Toronto isn't an excuse the easily get City-Dt, because in his case, he is directly across the lake and still can't get it.

I personally think the reason the guy fom Albion can get city-dt is because he is actually far enough east that he begins to pick up some of the side pattern of city-dt projected east of the CN Tower (towrads like Oshawa, Whitby...etc

City-dt supposely sends no signal in the direction of Buffalo/St. Catharines, but if you go east or west from the area, the signal slowly gets stronger as you near the actual direction they are sending their signal out, which is north, east and west, but not south. This is why i'm able to pull in city-dt myself, as I'm more west from buffalo, and am therefore picking up small amounts of the signal that is heading more in the Hamilton direction

Regardless though, I'm still surprised everyone is buffalo has had such a hard time with CFTO, i recall when WNYO was broadcasting at 0.65kW, there were still people in Toronto picking that up, but u guys can't seem to pic up a station at 17kW

[videobruce]

I'm still surprised everyone is buffalo has had such a hard time with CFTO

You don't take the G.I. situation into account.

[jimdoo]

I thought I'd throw my portable tv and my dvd recorder in the pop up camper since it has a digital tuner. And, low and behold I was able to get channels 2, 6, 10, 17, 19(a repeater of WTEN10) and 45- all from a RS-U75R mounted on a long branch pointed roughly towards albany. I was surprised to say the least. I wasn't expecting anything. Speculator is a little town north of the thruway about 70 miles or more from Albany. I wasn't expecting to get anything being up in the north country surrounded by mountains.

[jimdoo]

Bruce - Aim towards Roch -they're coming in again tonight!

[jimdoo]

It must be good - CBC is coming in at my house at close to 80% and I'm getting CTV and CBLFT !! - Not bad from NT!

[hanesstetter]

Hello I just set up my digital converter box to my analog TV in order to recieve digital OTA broadcasts. I live in East Aurora, NY thats south of Buffalo. I have a rotary antenna and are using a Magnavox TB100MW9 converter box. I am able to recieve the toronto stations on analog reception but I am unable to recieve any of the digital signals from Toronto. Thinking about putting on a inline signal booster Does anyone have any idea on why I am unable to recieve the broadcasts from Canada. I recieve all of the stations from the USA.

[stampeder]

Originally Posted by hanesstetter

I have a rotary antenna

Hi and welcome here - is your antenna a UFO-style one? Also I've merged your post into this thread that will have a bit of info that might apply to your situation. Also we have some regular posters here from New York State who can give you more info.

[hanesstetter]

It looks like I have a Channel Master CM 3016 or one very similar. Would a in-line booster help?

[Tom.F.1]

Originally Posted by hanesstetter

Hello I just set up my digital converter box to my analog TV in order to recieve digital OTA broadcasts. I live in East Aurora, NY thats south of Buffalo. I have a rotary antenna and are using a Magnavox TB100MW9 converter box. I am able to recieve the toronto stations on analog reception but I am unable to recieve any of the digital signals from Toronto. Thinking about putting on a inline signal booster Does anyone have any idea on why I am unable to recieve the broadcasts from Canada. I recieve all of the stations from the USA.

I can answer some of your questions, all of it is in here already, but would take a lot of reading.
Generally, Canadian OTA broadcasts are much lower than the U.S.
CITY Analog & digital and analog CBLT are directional antennas, not supposed to broadcast south. Buffalo gets Ch 5, just because they are high power VHF.

CTV & CBC are fairly high power for digital and omnidirectional. You might get those with a really good UHF antenna. Omni 1 & 2 are also fairly high power and they might start regular broadcasting someday.

The rest of Toronto Digital (CKXT, CIII, CITY, CBLFT) are low power and you'd never get them without extreme deep fringe equipment.

Pre-amps are made to overcome long cable runs. Trying to boost signal doesn't usually work because the high power stations swamp the input AGC of your tv. It reduces gain and ends up with less signal than without the preamp. If you could selectively amplify only the low power stations that would work, but would require extreme filtering, amplifying and re-combining. Thats what cable headends do, usually with a dedicated antenna and filter for each station they want to pick up.

Good Luck!!

[hanesstetter]

Thanks You were very helpful.

Rick

[videobruce]

The rest of Toronto Digital (CKXT, CIII, CITY, CBLFT) are low power and you'd never get them without extreme deep fringe equipment.

CIII is receivable around 30% of the time here. CKXT around 10%, as in CHCH 18.1. This is in the past few weeks.
CBLFT, if I remember correctly was only received here once. CITY, I won't even talk about.

[RadSurfer]

2.5 miles from the Shores of Lake Erie, I am able to get the following
stations, more or less regularly during the summer months:

11.1 (18.1) CHCH-DT Hamilton, Ontario, Analog 11, Eonline
*15.1 ??.? CKXT-2 Hamilton, Ontario, HD SunTV (Analog 45)
*41.1 (65.1) CIII-DT Global-HD, Canada (41 analog)

as well as WNED-HD 17.1, 17.2, 17.3

I have a Digital Stream OTA box bought from Radio Shack, reasonably
sensitive,
and a Magnovox 19" HDTV which appears to have some issues with
discerning / separating Digital stations if they overlap or are too weak.

Because City-TV 53.1/57.1 runs low power apparently, I have not yet
been able to receive them in digital, however their analog 31/57 can be
received 24/7 here.

I can not get our local channel 54.1/50.1 on the Magnovox due to it
thinking it see's a "rogue 50.2" station, however it does not list the 50.1
which seems very strange. Magnovox is just weird that way I guess.
The Digital Stream OTA box does receive our local PBS station, when the
signal level is favorable at least.

My antenna points a few degrees West of North, about 10 stories off the
ground inside a highrise apartment :-)
I do not have much freedom to rotate the antenna.

*****
I am looking for the complete DTV channel listing for Hamilton, and Toronto
please.
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I am watching 11.1/18.1 on E! while typing this!

Thanks!

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