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Francois Caron · 2012-01-02, 01:49 PM

Just a quick note that the first episode of the second series has already aired in the UK.

And it features a high profile dominatrix!

Torontoblue · 2012-01-02, 02:12 PM

Great first episode of the new series. Superb writing, storyline and acting once again. Really missed this show.

Next week is Hound of the Baskervilles........can't wait

Francois Caron · 2012-01-02, 09:09 PM

I'm reading the book right now. It'll be interesting to see how it compares with the next episode. How well will they blend together the original storyline with modern technology?

Best line in the first episode: "I HAD BAD DAYS!!!"

flaminghomer · 2012-01-02, 11:10 PM

Just watched it tonight. I really missed the intelligent dialogue.

IT WAS BRILLIANT!

cheadlebeagle · 2012-01-03, 12:58 AM

Not being a huge techno expert just exactly how are you all watching it? Sorry to be so stupid.

flaminghomer · 2012-01-03, 10:01 PM

Not stupid at all. I use this stuff but I really don't know how it all works

You can download stuff from a BitTorrent site using a client like Frostwire or similar. A bit of googling will show you how to do this.

You should not download copyrighted material.

Torontoblue · 2012-01-04, 12:06 AM

For a safer solution you can use newsgroups/usenet. Faster downloads, no sharing required and no tracking involved

Francois Caron · 2012-01-07, 01:45 PM

About Sherlock Holmes' lack of knowledge about our solar system as depicted in the last TV episode. It's also mentioned in the novel The Hound of the Baskervilles.

While the character of Sherlock Holmes in the novel is portrayed as an unusual yet brilliant man, I wonder if Sir Arthur Conan Doyle had in mind the more realistic and rather disturbed character portrayed in the television series.

rfielder · 2012-01-08, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Francois Caron

While the character of Sherlock Holmes in the novel is portrayed as an unusual yet brilliant man, I wonder if Sir Arthur Conan Doyle had in mind the more realistic and rather disturbed character portrayed in the television series.

Interesting - if I understand you correctly, you are saying that the lead in Sherlock is playing the character closer to Doyle's vision, while Doyle's novels missed the mark a little?

Francois Caron · 2012-01-08, 05:37 PM

Actually, it might be as simple as Doyle not being able to portray Holmes exactly the way he wanted to portray him due to the prejudices of the time.

By putting the TV version of Holmes in my mind while reading "The Hound of the Baskervilles", it changed the overall feel of the story (I had already read half of the book before, but hadn't finished it). I couldn't believe that a somewhat "normal" person could have these incredible deductive abilities, which made the stories and subsequent movies seem completely unrealistic. But what about someone with specific mental issues? Autistic? Idiot-Savant? Bipolar disorder? A combination of disorders? It's suddenly all made sense now!

Today, we know that people with certain mental difficulties can also possess some pretty incredible mental abilities. Doyle may have been aware of this, maybe even a sufferer/beneficiary himself. But to reveal these mental difficulties during the Victorian era could have been disastrous for the character, and possibly for Doyle himself.

It was the mention of the solar system in the book, and how it was interpreted in last week's episode of the show that allowed me to finally make the connection. After nearly a century of misinterpretation, we might be finally seeing Sherlock Holmes depicted exactly as Sir Arthur Conan Doyle had originally envisioned him, but which he may have never been able to fully disclose due to the prejudices of the time.

rfielder · 2012-01-09, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Francois Caron

After nearly a century of misinterpretation, we might be finally seeing Sherlock Holmes depicted exactly as Sir Arthur Conan Doyle had originally envisioned him, but which he may have never been able to fully disclose due to the prejudices of the time.

I have never read any of the Sherlock Holmes books, but what you are saying makes sense.

I wonder how this will effect Benedict Cumberbatch's career? He is appearing in two upcoming movies - The Hobbit, and (according to news reports) as the villian in the next Star Trek movie. Regarless of Cumberbatch's talents, I am going to have trouble seeing Sherlock Holmes in a Star Trek movie....

Typcasting can be really annoying. When an actor really owns a role, it is hard to see him in a different role without prejudice.

Francois Caron · 2012-01-09, 11:49 AM

We'll soon find out just how good an actor he really is. If he can deliver a performance that makes you forget his Sherlock Holmes character, then he's a real actor, and not a on-trick-pony.

One actor that comes to mind who was good enough to avoid stereotypes during his entire career is Christopher Plummer. He's remembered as Captain Von Trapp in "The Sound of Music", the evil priest in "Dragnet", and (surprise!) General Chang in "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country."

Another thing in common between Cumberbatch and Plummer: they're both theatre actors. And many filmmakers prefer to work with theatre actors because, along with their prior acting experience, theatre actors know how to deliver a powerful performance in front of a camera just like they've done in front of a live audience.

cheadlebeagle · 2012-01-09, 05:15 PM

I saw Benedict in A Small Island and you wouldn't realise it's the same actor who plays Sherlock. I think he is a brilliant actor and will have no trouble playing different roles. I also think he is the best Sherlock Holmes after Jeremy Bates and so much better than the stupid movies with Robert Downey Jr.

rfielder · 2012-01-09, 10:32 PM

We just saw The Hounds of Baskerville, and WOW!

The sad part is - one more episode, and the season is finished.

I really hope they bring this show back for a third season! What references I can find indicate that this is not a sure thing - there are no plans for a third season at this time, although the principles have indicated that they would like to do one more.

Only one more season? I guess that makes sense in some ways. There were only four Sherlock Holmes novels, after all......

rsambuca · 2012-01-10, 12:37 AM

There are 56 short stories too, some of which they have used for this excellent modernization. If they end the series, it won't be from a lack of original source material.

2012-01-02, 02:12 PM	#17
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2012-01-02, 11:10 PM	#19
flaminghomer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Aurora, ON Posts: 262	Just watched it tonight. I really missed the intelligent dialogue. IT WAS BRILLIANT! __________________ flaminghomer Samsung 6000 Series LED \| Bell Fibe 2262 \| Pioneer VSX-919AH \| Panasonic DMP-BD75 \| Bose Acoustimass 6

2012-01-03, 10:01 PM	#21
flaminghomer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Aurora, ON Posts: 262	Not stupid at all. I use this stuff but I really don't know how it all works You can download stuff from a BitTorrent site using a client like Frostwire or similar. A bit of googling will show you how to do this. You should not download copyrighted material. __________________ flaminghomer Samsung 6000 Series LED \| Bell Fibe 2262 \| Pioneer VSX-919AH \| Panasonic DMP-BD75 \| Bose Acoustimass 6

2012-01-04, 12:06 AM	#22
Torontoblue Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Edmonton, via The Wirral Posts: 323	For a safer solution you can use newsgroups/usenet. Faster downloads, no sharing required and no tracking involved __________________ Samsung UN55ES6100 \| ONKYO TX-NR609 \| SONY PS3 \| SHAW Gateway \| www.torontotoffees.net

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2012-01-02, 01:49 PM	#16
Francois Caron Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,371	Just a quick note that the first episode of the second series has already aired in the UK. And it features a high profile dominatrix!

2012-01-02, 09:09 PM	#18
Francois Caron Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,371	I'm reading the book right now. It'll be interesting to see how it compares with the next episode. How well will they blend together the original storyline with modern technology? Best line in the first episode: "I HAD BAD DAYS!!!"

2012-01-03, 12:58 AM	#20
cheadlebeagle Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 131	Not being a huge techno expert just exactly how are you all watching it? Sorry to be so stupid.

2012-01-07, 01:45 PM	#23
Francois Caron Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,371	About Sherlock Holmes' lack of knowledge about our solar system as depicted in the last TV episode. It's also mentioned in the novel The Hound of the Baskervilles. While the character of Sherlock Holmes in the novel is portrayed as an unusual yet brilliant man, I wonder if Sir Arthur Conan Doyle had in mind the more realistic and rather disturbed character portrayed in the television series.

2012-01-08, 05:37 PM	#25
Francois Caron Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,371	Actually, it might be as simple as Doyle not being able to portray Holmes exactly the way he wanted to portray him due to the prejudices of the time. By putting the TV version of Holmes in my mind while reading "The Hound of the Baskervilles", it changed the overall feel of the story (I had already read half of the book before, but hadn't finished it). I couldn't believe that a somewhat "normal" person could have these incredible deductive abilities, which made the stories and subsequent movies seem completely unrealistic. But what about someone with specific mental issues? Autistic? Idiot-Savant? Bipolar disorder? A combination of disorders? It's suddenly all made sense now! Today, we know that people with certain mental difficulties can also possess some pretty incredible mental abilities. Doyle may have been aware of this, maybe even a sufferer/beneficiary himself. But to reveal these mental difficulties during the Victorian era could have been disastrous for the character, and possibly for Doyle himself. It was the mention of the solar system in the book, and how it was interpreted in last week's episode of the show that allowed me to finally make the connection. After nearly a century of misinterpretation, we might be finally seeing Sherlock Holmes depicted exactly as Sir Arthur Conan Doyle had originally envisioned him, but which he may have never been able to fully disclose due to the prejudices of the time.

2012-01-09, 11:49 AM	#27
Francois Caron Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,371	We'll soon find out just how good an actor he really is. If he can deliver a performance that makes you forget his Sherlock Holmes character, then he's a real actor, and not a on-trick-pony. One actor that comes to mind who was good enough to avoid stereotypes during his entire career is Christopher Plummer. He's remembered as Captain Von Trapp in "The Sound of Music", the evil priest in "Dragnet", and (surprise!) General Chang in "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country." Another thing in common between Cumberbatch and Plummer: they're both theatre actors. And many filmmakers prefer to work with theatre actors because, along with their prior acting experience, theatre actors know how to deliver a powerful performance in front of a camera just like they've done in front of a live audience.

2012-01-09, 05:15 PM	#28
cheadlebeagle Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 131	I saw Benedict in A Small Island and you wouldn't realise it's the same actor who plays Sherlock. I think he is a brilliant actor and will have no trouble playing different roles. I also think he is the best Sherlock Holmes after Jeremy Bates and so much better than the stupid movies with Robert Downey Jr.

2012-01-09, 10:32 PM	#29
rfielder Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brampton, Ontario Posts: 1,529	We just saw The Hounds of Baskerville, and WOW! The sad part is - one more episode, and the season is finished. I really hope they bring this show back for a third season! What references I can find indicate that this is not a sure thing - there are no plans for a third season at this time, although the principles have indicated that they would like to do one more. Only one more season? I guess that makes sense in some ways. There were only four Sherlock Holmes novels, after all......

2012-01-10, 12:37 AM	#30
rsambuca Veteran Join Date: May 2006 Location: Calgary Posts: 1,635	There are 56 short stories too, some of which they have used for this excellent modernization. If they end the series, it won't be from a lack of original source material.