I think TSN'S Sportcentre could use a graphic overlay overhaul - Canadian TV, Computing and Home Theatre Forums

ESPN · 2011-05-09, 06:57 PM

When TSN announced in 2009 they were going to be overhauling Sportscentre's graphics package, i was initially happy about the news. Then when i saw what they had done, i was disappointed. They simply had replaced the opening and some of the transitional swipes with the one's ESPN currently uses, and had basically forgone updating there very dated looking stat overlays and bottomline.

Now, I don't expect anything to change in the near future, but i took these captures of ESPN'S current graphics package to show how much of a difference there is between the 2 show's overlays and bottomline. Notice how much more vibrant and complimentary the colors are with ESPN'S graphic package. They also generally look way slicker.

NB Josh · 2011-05-09, 07:55 PM

I actually think that we will see an overhaul of TSN's graphics in about 7 weeks for the start of the CFL season. It should carry over to SportsCentre. I'm hesitant to say it will happen for sure, but I get the feeling it might.

DirtyShirt · 2011-05-11, 07:10 PM

So it's still not a option to give us ESPN? TSN/TSN2 jack everything and throw in a few extra hockey games and thats hockey2night. Great network(s) with awsome programs.

Paolo · 2011-05-14, 09:09 PM

i want to the states and watched espn, to my supprise, the graphics and heck even the name sportscenter reminded me of tsn that tells me tsn copied espns graphics? why would they do such a thing? they DO need a make over

special k · 2011-05-15, 12:00 AM

i think espn owns a small portion of tsn

leaffan1967 · 2011-05-15, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by special k

i think espn owns a small portion of tsn

ESPN owns 20% of what was CTV Specialty Television, which owns TSN, Discovery, Dome Productions and what not... This has been the case since 2001 when the TSN logo was redone to look more like ESPN branding. The wikipedia article is a good read if you want to know more about that. That is when "Sportsdesk" was renamed "Sportscentre".

Ever since the TSN graphics have been similar to ESPNs, but usually a couple years behind on changes. I expect when the new ones come out they will pick up the ESPN sportscentre "Background loops" for full screen graphics on the show, but the lower thirds will resemble the ones seen at the NHL Fantasy Draft at the All Star game, and the ones for "TSN on Bell Smartphones" that you see periodically now.

primehifi · 2011-05-24, 05:27 PM

ESPN graphics will always be a thousand times better then TSN's.

ESPN makes a lot more money then TSN and as such, can afford to have a larger and more skilled graphics department.

You watch espn and they'll whip up a package which is huge, run it once for some small feature on sportscenter then you'll never see it again.

$

CenturyBreak · 2011-05-24, 06:43 PM

More important is the fact that TSN apparently doesn't have the cash to hire primary school graduates to type in the content for Sportscentre's on-screen graphics.

Whoever the clueless dolts are, they persist in misspelling words, and even names! Worst yet is that they continuously use apostrophes for plurals... just yesterday it was in the Top 10, with the theme being things that come in " 3's " (sic).

Mind you, I recall one instance where they/he/she combined all of the above and spelled Leo Rautins surname as "Rautin's"

Wow. Unfriggin-believable!

leaffan1967 · 2011-05-26, 05:13 PM

I see TSN now has an ESPN-looking bottomline during Around the Horn, sign of things to come perhaps???

jimemos · 2011-05-26, 06:19 PM

updated graphics for sportscentre too. very shiny... not much of an improvement in my opinion.

CenturyBreak · 2011-05-26, 07:05 PM

Yep, shiny new graphics; same old unprofessional content: today it was "game 7's" referring to the result of the Bruins' choking last night.

Sheesh.

NB Josh · 2011-05-26, 07:22 PM

They seem to be including a lot more information in their new tickers. Before it was just NHL, NBA and MLB scores, with the odd TSN promo and some injury news. Now they have full tennis scores and more. If they keep this up, I'd say it's an improvement.

leaffan1967 · 2011-05-26, 07:48 PM

I am still not a fan of the SC double stack ticker, would rather they have the single line one for sportscentre as well. All thats left now is the REAL graphics package (lower thirds, full screens etc), then it will look great

jimemos · 2011-05-26, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by leaffan1967

I am still not a fan of the SC double stack ticker, would rather they have the single line one for sportscentre as well. All thats left now is the REAL graphics package (lower thirds, full screens etc), then it will look great

i agree. the new bottomline they were running during around the horn and PTI looked much better. basically identical to the ESPN one, but not optimized for 16:9 so it fit less text. the look was a huge improvement over the old one though. just not a fan of the SC ticker.

leaffan1967 · 2011-05-26, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimemos

i agree. the new bottomline they were running during around the horn and PTI looked much better. basically identical to the ESPN one, but not optimized for 16:9 so it fit less text. the look was a huge improvement over the old one though. just not a fan of the SC ticker.

Yes, ESPN overlays the ticker separately for HD and SD feed (except shows that are framed 16:9, like PTI and ATH)... TSN letterboxes those shows, but still center cuts the rest. What TSN does MOST of the time makes the new bottomline exactly like the one you see on ABC for College Football and NBA

2011-05-09, 06:57 PM	#1
ESPN Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 123	I think TSN'S Sportcentre could use a graphic overlay overhaul When TSN announced in 2009 they were going to be overhauling Sportscentre's graphics package, i was initially happy about the news. Then when i saw what they had done, i was disappointed. They simply had replaced the opening and some of the transitional swipes with the one's ESPN currently uses, and had basically forgone updating there very dated looking stat overlays and bottomline. Now, I don't expect anything to change in the near future, but i took these captures of ESPN'S current graphics package to show how much of a difference there is between the 2 show's overlays and bottomline. Notice how much more vibrant and complimentary the colors are with ESPN'S graphic package. They also generally look way slicker.

2011-05-26, 05:13 PM	#9
leaffan1967 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Nova Scotia *Eastlink HD DVR (Motorola 6416 III) Posts: 909	I see TSN now has an ESPN-looking bottomline during Around the Horn, sign of things to come perhaps??? __________________ RCA 26" HDTV - (ATSC/QAM Tuner) - 720p/1080i

2011-05-26, 07:48 PM	#13
leaffan1967 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Nova Scotia *Eastlink HD DVR (Motorola 6416 III) Posts: 909	I am still not a fan of the SC double stack ticker, would rather they have the single line one for sportscentre as well. All thats left now is the REAL graphics package (lower thirds, full screens etc), then it will look great __________________ RCA 26" HDTV - (ATSC/QAM Tuner) - 720p/1080i

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2011-05-09, 07:55 PM	#2
NB Josh Veteran Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New Brunswick - Shaw Direct Posts: 3,150	I actually think that we will see an overhaul of TSN's graphics in about 7 weeks for the start of the CFL season. It should carry over to SportsCentre. I'm hesitant to say it will happen for sure, but I get the feeling it might.

2011-05-11, 07:10 PM	#3
DirtyShirt Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: West Killerdonan Posts: 55	So it's still not a option to give us ESPN? TSN/TSN2 jack everything and throw in a few extra hockey games and thats hockey2night. Great network(s) with awsome programs.

2011-05-14, 09:09 PM	#4
Paolo Veteran Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Regional Municipality of Durham Posts: 2,695	i want to the states and watched espn, to my supprise, the graphics and heck even the name sportscenter reminded me of tsn that tells me tsn copied espns graphics? why would they do such a thing? they DO need a make over

2011-05-15, 12:00 AM	#5
special k Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 101	i think espn owns a small portion of tsn

2011-05-24, 05:27 PM	#7
primehifi Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 141	ESPN graphics will always be a thousand times better then TSN's. ESPN makes a lot more money then TSN and as such, can afford to have a larger and more skilled graphics department. You watch espn and they'll whip up a package which is huge, run it once for some small feature on sportscenter then you'll never see it again. $

2011-05-24, 06:43 PM	#8
CenturyBreak Join Date: May 2005 Location: Burlington, ON Posts: 421	More important is the fact that TSN apparently doesn't have the cash to hire primary school graduates to type in the content for Sportscentre's on-screen graphics. Whoever the clueless dolts are, they persist in misspelling words, and even names! Worst yet is that they continuously use apostrophes for plurals... just yesterday it was in the Top 10, with the theme being things that come in " 3's " (sic). Mind you, I recall one instance where they/he/she combined all of the above and spelled Leo Rautins surname as "Rautin's" Wow. Unfriggin-believable!

2011-05-26, 06:19 PM	#10
jimemos Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ancaster, ON (Cogeco) Posts: 28	updated graphics for sportscentre too. very shiny... not much of an improvement in my opinion.

2011-05-26, 07:05 PM	#11
CenturyBreak Join Date: May 2005 Location: Burlington, ON Posts: 421	Yep, shiny new graphics; same old unprofessional content: today it was "game 7's" referring to the result of the Bruins' choking last night. Sheesh.

2011-05-26, 07:22 PM	#12
NB Josh Veteran Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New Brunswick - Shaw Direct Posts: 3,150	They seem to be including a lot more information in their new tickers. Before it was just NHL, NBA and MLB scores, with the odd TSN promo and some injury news. Now they have full tennis scores and more. If they keep this up, I'd say it's an improvement.