MTV Canada under fire for 'Jersey Shore' - Canadian TV, Computing and Home Theatre Forums

derek80 · 2010-10-02, 11:49 AM

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...b2399528189ebe

I thought this was an interesting article, and it shows just how far astray many of the specialty channels have gone from their programming mandates. I always wondered how MTV Canada got away with using the Talk TV licence, but apparently it took this long for the CRTC to notice, lol.

bigcletus · 2010-10-02, 02:58 PM

Once again, it not the broadcasters who are over-stepping their bounds, but the CRTC which needs to be eliminated. They are way past the "best before" date.

Francois Caron · 2010-10-02, 03:15 PM

I wonder what triggered off the investigation? In terms of regulatory compliance, the CRTC is more a reactive agency, and not a proactive one. They normally only intervene when someone files a complaint.

ShawViewer · 2010-10-02, 03:58 PM

MTV Canada has been airing shows like this since their 're-launch'

Took CRTC this long to notice. Wow. Also. Jersey show is pure trash.

HDTV101 · 2010-10-02, 07:45 PM

Since when was MTV to be an all Talk format? The M is for 'Music'

For years Canada was shafted because we had that crap Much Music station. MTV was not allowed into Canada because of it. Much had a 20 year exclusive so we had to wait while the rest of the world evolved with MTV. Now that we finally got MTV it's a 'Talk' only station ??? We’re also not allowed to now watch Jersey Shore?

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brew crew · 2010-10-02, 08:21 PM

Jersey Shore is also shown on CTV

HDTV101 · 2010-10-02, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by brew crew

Jersey Shore is also shown on CTV

Don't tell the CRTC that!

NeilN · 2010-10-02, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by HDTV101

Since when was MTV to be an all Talk format? The M is for 'Music'

Since it was Talk TV Canada. CTVglobemedia is pulling a fast one and hoping that by changing the name, no one refers back to the original licensing obligations. I hope the CRTC comes down hard on them for this. I'm tired of specialty channels stating that they'll air a certain type of programming to get their license and then slowly devolving and airing cheap-to-buy junk. A&E is a perfect example of this.

james039 · 2010-10-02, 09:40 PM

MTV should be slapped for airing garbage such as the Jersey Shore when the whole point of the network and the MTV brand was to be about the music. Things aren't exactly rosy on the American version of the station either. The US version of MTV and the Canadian version are indeed very similar in programming, almost no music related programming at all, instead wall-to-wall so called "reality" series.

Even more ridiculous is CTV licensing an all Talk channel and using it to launch MTV in Canada. What genius thought that one up? I suppose the CRTC would've rejected a music-centric license because of their crazy notion that TV stations shouldn't enter into direct competition with each other.

It's all lunacy, and the CRTC seriously needs to overhaul its mandate.

I had a good laugh at the headline though before reading what this was actually about. I assumed the complaint was of a *parental* nature.

gretzky · 2010-10-02, 10:49 PM

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I assumed the complaint was of a *parental* nature

we are not sure about this
it could easily be from competitor

nakedgord · 2010-10-03, 07:14 AM

If by parental he means the moral minority puritan crowd the funny thing is, if CTV pulls shows from MTV, I could see them going to more widely carried channels like Much, Comedy, A or the main CTV.

Jersey Show could certainly fall under a comedy banner.

I'm usually not one for reality but I gotta say Snooki rocks.

nakedgord · 2010-10-03, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by brew crew

Jersey Shore is also shown on CTV

I was suprised to see CTV adding a repeat of South Park to it's late night line up as well as some more Comedy Central late night Sunday.

I wonder if the Bell purchuse will prompt CTV to no longer be the Grandma network.

madhi19 · 2010-10-03, 05:56 PM

Even in the state the real MTV died a long time ago!

artthe1 · 2010-10-03, 06:55 PM

I'm kinda surprised the complaint wasn't about that it insulted Italian-Americans. I assume the Italian groups up there OK'd the show since they didn't say anything against it. Or did they just decide to let UNICO and The Order Sons of Italy in America speak for them?

Do they even have Italian groups up there? Guidos? But enough about that.

Yeah, Snooki does rock. She bounced back after that fight last season and the one with Angelina I just saw on the download.

TJ77 · 2010-10-03, 08:06 PM

There were some very offended Italian groups when MTV first announced season 1, but all they managed to do was add to the hype.
There are many programs on the schedule that don't fit with the talk format. I'm quite familiar with the TalkTV/MTV license for reasons I won't get into, but if I recall correctly, the license states that the network must "have an emphasis on talk programming," and of course 'emphasis' does not mean 100%, and CTV will be arguing this.
All official press releases refer to MTV in Canada featuring "dynamic and interactive talk, lifestyle and documentary programming."
Recall that they have also made extensive use of After Shows to 'talk' about the programs that just aired.

All in all, they are probably more in compliance than some other networks.

2010-10-02, 11:49 AM	#1
derek80 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 178	MTV Canada under fire for 'Jersey Shore' http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...b2399528189ebe I thought this was an interesting article, and it shows just how far astray many of the specialty channels have gone from their programming mandates. I always wondered how MTV Canada got away with using the Talk TV licence, but apparently it took this long for the CRTC to notice, lol.

2010-10-03, 07:14 AM	#11
nakedgord Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 605	If by parental he means the moral minority puritan crowd the funny thing is, if CTV pulls shows from MTV, I could see them going to more widely carried channels like Much, Comedy, A or the main CTV. Jersey Show could certainly fall under a comedy banner. I'm usually not one for reality but I gotta say Snooki rocks. __________________ OTA Free: CBC, CTV, CHCH, PBS, PBS World, TVO, WNLO, Global, OMNI1, CityTV, OMNI2. Premium TV: R2 DVDs (Cheaper)

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2010-10-02, 02:58 PM	#2
bigcletus Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 68	Once again, it not the broadcasters who are over-stepping their bounds, but the CRTC which needs to be eliminated. They are way past the "best before" date.

2010-10-02, 03:15 PM	#3
Francois Caron Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,368	I wonder what triggered off the investigation? In terms of regulatory compliance, the CRTC is more a reactive agency, and not a proactive one. They normally only intervene when someone files a complaint.

2010-10-02, 03:58 PM	#4
ShawViewer Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 347	MTV Canada has been airing shows like this since their 're-launch' Took CRTC this long to notice. Wow. Also. Jersey show is pure trash.

2010-10-02, 07:45 PM	#5
HDTV101 Veteran Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,000	Since when was MTV to be an all Talk format? The M is for 'Music' For years Canada was shafted because we had that crap Much Music station. MTV was not allowed into Canada because of it. Much had a 20 year exclusive so we had to wait while the rest of the world evolved with MTV. Now that we finally got MTV it's a 'Talk' only station ??? We’re also not allowed to now watch Jersey Shore? MTV USA, MTV UK, MTV Adria based in Serbia, MTV Belgium, MTV Brazil, MTV Canada, MTV Turkey, MTV Netherlands, MTV Ireland, MTV Greece, MTV Hungary, MTV Russia, MTV Spain, MTV Austria, MTV France, MTV Germany, MTV Europe , MTV Portugal, MTV Adria, MTV Denmark, MTV Finland, MTV Italy, MTV Norway, MTV Poland, MTV Czech, MTV Romania, MTV Lithuania, MTV Latvia, MTV Estonia, MTV Sweden, MTV Asia, MTV Taiwan, MTV Korea, MTV Japan, MTV Thailand, MTV Indonesia, MTV India, MTV Philippines, MTV Pakistan, MTV Latin America, MTV Australia, MTV New Zealand, MTV Ukraine, and MTV Base in Africa and MTV Arabia. Also an international version of MTV known as MTV International for areas without their own.

2010-10-02, 08:21 PM	#6
brew crew Rookie Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 8	Jersey Shore is also shown on CTV

2010-10-02, 09:40 PM	#9
james039 Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 338	MTV should be slapped for airing garbage such as the Jersey Shore when the whole point of the network and the MTV brand was to be about the music. Things aren't exactly rosy on the American version of the station either. The US version of MTV and the Canadian version are indeed very similar in programming, almost no music related programming at all, instead wall-to-wall so called "reality" series. Even more ridiculous is CTV licensing an all Talk channel and using it to launch MTV in Canada. What genius thought that one up? I suppose the CRTC would've rejected a music-centric license because of their crazy notion that TV stations shouldn't enter into direct competition with each other. It's all lunacy, and the CRTC seriously needs to overhaul its mandate. I had a good laugh at the headline though before reading what this was actually about. I assumed the complaint was of a parental nature.

2010-10-03, 05:56 PM	#13
madhi19 Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 363	Even in the state the real MTV died a long time ago!

2010-10-03, 06:55 PM	#14
artthe1 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Visalia CA Posts: 118	I'm kinda surprised the complaint wasn't about that it insulted Italian-Americans. I assume the Italian groups up there OK'd the show since they didn't say anything against it. Or did they just decide to let UNICO and The Order Sons of Italy in America speak for them? Do they even have Italian groups up there? Guidos? But enough about that. Yeah, Snooki does rock. She bounced back after that fight last season and the one with Angelina I just saw on the download.

2010-10-03, 08:06 PM	#15
TJ77 Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,984	There were some very offended Italian groups when MTV first announced season 1, but all they managed to do was add to the hype. There are many programs on the schedule that don't fit with the talk format. I'm quite familiar with the TalkTV/MTV license for reasons I won't get into, but if I recall correctly, the license states that the network must "have an emphasis on talk programming," and of course 'emphasis' does not mean 100%, and CTV will be arguing this. All official press releases refer to MTV in Canada featuring "dynamic and interactive talk, lifestyle and documentary programming." Recall that they have also made extensive use of After Shows to 'talk' about the programs that just aired. All in all, they are probably more in compliance than some other networks.