CBC/SRC DTV Transition Status (closed)

[roger1818]

Originally Posted by downbeat

Revoking simsubs isn't a big stick for CBC because so much of their programming isn't U.S.-based.

Agreed, though it might make the other networks think twice about following the CBC's lead.

And it's an especially peculiar situation in Windsor, where CBC relinquishes rights to shows like Jeopardy and Wheel of Fortune because the station is so close to the U.S. border.
As a result, CBET has a schedule that, for part of the day, is unlike any other CBC station in southern Canada.

True, though my comments were more general.

Revoking BDU carriage — now that would be a big stick. Wonder if the CRTC has the guts to do it.

That it would. I doubt if the CRTC would cut them off September 1, 2011, but they may not let them wait until August 31, 2012. Only time will tell though.

[downbeat]

I've just e-mailed a polite letter to CBC/Radio-Canada pertaining to the lack of a digital transmitter for CBRFT Calgary and will keep you up to date if I receive a response from them.
I invite all of you -- concerned taxpayers and, by extension, CBC shareholders -- to do the same for whatever wrong you perceive in the CBC's DTV transition plan for your region.

[roger1818]

Originally Posted by downbeat

I've just e-mailed a polite letter to CBC/Radio-Canada pertaining to the lack of a digital transmitter for CBRFT Calgary and will keep you up to date if I receive a response from them.
I invite all of you -- concerned taxpayers and, by extension, CBC shareholders -- to do the same for whatever wrong you perceive in the CBC's DTV transition plan for your region.

Make sure you also send a copy to your MP. The CBC can only do what they have money for and it is the federal government who gives them most of their money. Considering the Conservatives hate the CBC and would like nothing better than the CBC to die a slow and painful death, I wouldn't hold my breath on that one though.

[LONSat]

Re Windsor. I would think the FCC would be more concerned that CBEFT was still broadcasting on chaneel 54. Wouldn't that mean that nobody could reuse the spectrum in the greater Detroit area until CBEFT vacates that spot.

[micah]

Originally Posted by stampeder

iblackford asked about the list of cities, so I've stickied it in the main OTA Forum:

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=122591

Kitchener is on there.

Hi stampeder, the link is dead. Also, can someone explain what is happening in London, Ontario? What is happening in mandatory markets that only have repeaters doesn't seem clear.

[argilo]

Also, can someone explain what is happening in London, Ontario? What is happening in mandatory markets that only have repeaters doesn't seem clear.

I wrote to the CBC to ask about that, but haven't heard back yet. I suggest you ask them as well.

[majortom]

Thanks for answering my questions Roger1818. I didn't see where CBC said any of that.
It's not in that Press Release is it? Or ya goin by "common sense" which doesn't seem to exist up there.

[micah]

Originally Posted by argilo

I wrote to the CBC to ask about that, but haven't heard back yet. I suggest you ask them as well.

For sure! I wrote them last night (both on the website and the email address they had linked from their transition plan page). I also haven't heard anything back.

[roger1818]

Originally Posted by LONSat

I would think the FCC would be more concerned that CBEFT was still broadcasting on chaneel 54.

Correct. The CBC even says themselves in section 12 of their Q&A, "in non-mandatory markets located in the Canada-US coordination zone (i.e. within 350 km of the US border), broadcasters required to vacate UHF channels 52-69." Since Windsor is actually a mandatory market, CBEFT will definitely be required to shut down, since there are no plans to convert it to digital.

[roger1818]

Originally Posted by majortom

Thanks for answering my questions Roger1818. I didn't see where CBC said any of that.

Regarding CBEFT, I said "They will likely just stop broadcasting," implying that it is what I think they will do (I have no proof).

Regarding channel 35. You highlighted the wrong line in your original post. CBET-PT on channel 9 is their post transitional allocation. The one you highlighted (CBET-DT) is their temporary allocation during the transition, so I got the information from you.

[roger1818]

Originally Posted by micah

can someone explain what is happening in London, Ontario? What is happening in mandatory markets that only have repeaters doesn't seem clear.

It hasn't been made clear. It seems implied that they would be required to shut down, but I could see how an argument could be made to not shut them down (though I haven't heard anyone try to make it).

My guess is the CBC repeater in London will be shut down. The only good news is it could be an opportunity to fight for a CBC station for London (it certainly deserves one).

[stampeder]

Originally Posted by micah

Hi stampeder, the link is dead. Also, can someone explain what is happening in London, Ontario?

Sorry about that - I put it into the OTA FAQ in Post #27:

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/show...1&postcount=27

Regarding London, keep an eye on this thread too:

OTA Station Status: SW Ontario, Lk. Erie, Lk. Huron

[BCF]

Originally Posted by roger1818

It hasn't been made clear. It seems implied that they would be required to shut down, but I could see how an argument could be made to not shut them down (though I haven't heard anyone try to make it).

My guess is the CBC repeater in London will be shut down. The only good news is it could be an opportunity to fight for a CBC station for London (it certainly deserves one).

I hope that it's NOT "implied" the the London station/repeaters would be shut down.

OTA DTV in the London area isn't all that great (other than on Tropo days)... London is just far enough from American border cities and from Toronto/GTA area that on most days of the year, Londoners can only rely on the "local" transmitters (ie. Byron tower (CBC, OMNI1&2, Suntv, CITS, TVO), CFPL, CityTv from Woodstock, CHCH from Alvinston, and perhaps a couple of others) for mainly analog channels, except Suntv).

[Jase88]

I'm certain that London will retain it's CBC transmitter(s). You cannot serve London with a Toronto transmitter, so it would stand to reason that London retains it facilities.

However, as a cost cutting measure, it wouldn't surprise me if the CBC blends both English and French stations into one transmission, with one station as a sub-channel.

[iblackford]

Perhaps it's covered somewhere else in the forum, but can somebody help outline what CBC would lose from pulling out their repeaters from mandatory markets completely? I'm not talking about originating stations, rather just the repeaters similar to what are in London and Kitchener.

It seems to me that they would lose the right to have mandatory carriage in these markets, but I don't see that as much of an issue, as no local cable provider is not going to pick up the CBC.