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Old 2010-02-10, 08:35 AM   #1
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Been having problems getting my surround speakers to work in 5.1.I just recently(two days back)picked up the Onkyo TX-NR807 and the Bose Acoustimass 15 Series II speaker system.Followed the manual from the get-go.Of course i might of screwed up some how along the way.

All the speakers have been checked and double checked.All speakers(including the surround)work when i playback cds or mini discs or the tv audio for that matter.However when i go to play any dvds that are able to be played back in 5.1 sound all i seem to get are the front left and right and the subwoofer.Sometimes the center as well.

I have an optical cable coming out of my Sony 400 dvd player and into my AVR's IN1 optical(and i assigned this in the speaker set-up on the amp).I then have Component video out as well from my dvd player into the dvd input of my receiever.This is how it is explained on page 31 of my AVR manual.

I do have HDMI inputs and have one set-up as well in the back of the AVR Dvd/BD slot.And,also have the main HDMI cable coming out of my AVR receiver into my tv.Could this be a conflict?

I would perfer to have my dvd,my game consoles all hooked up thru HDMI inputs on the back of the AVR and then have the main HDMI cable out form AVR into my tv.But,had problems w/ this early on.Even have the inputs to each of these connections had been assigned in the "input/output" section on the receiver.

I'm pretty new to all of this.Therefore i seem to ramble and may make things more confusing then they really are.I apologize.

Been at this on & off the past 2 days.Looked over the manual again and fiddled about w/ the set-ups and all,but still nothing.

My remote for my Sony 400 dvd player does not work.A week or so back i picked up logitech remote.I mention this here because,this logitech remote does not seem to allow me to go into the dvd player's set-up and double check to make sure my player's settings are right interms of the outputs and whatnot.I checked all the buttons over and over again on the remote and NOTHING.Also,checked the front of my dvd player and nothing there allows for me to access any dvd player menus to check the output/input settings of this dvd player.Any idea how i can access this?

So,my main question is,does someone have this make and model and perhaps KNOWS for sure what steps i may be missing.Or perhaps someone who has had problems w/ not getting the full 5.1 sound(and NO SURROUND SOUND)could maybe point me in the right direction as to what i may be doing wrong.It may really rely infact on my dvd player and getting access to it's audio/video set-up.My older AVR had no hdmi inputs or outputs.So,if this is the case,could someone maybe tell me how i might be able to access my dvd player's settings?Seeings how the original remote for the unit does not work.Because if this is all it takes then maybe that is the REAL question I AM ASKING.

Sorry for the length.If anyone has any idea-ers or helpful suggestions i sure would appreciate it.You folks have ALWAYS been a great help to me.Anything you can throw my way help-wise would be grrrrreat.

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Old 2010-02-10, 10:21 AM   #2
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My guess is that there is a setting in the BD player which is sending 2 channel audio (perhaps PCM) instead of bistreaming the audio to the AVR from the DVD Player. You need to get into your DVD player's setup and check the various audio options - should be set to bistream/raw or similar.. There can be as many as a dozen audio options sometimes and they all need to be set correctly.

With most of today's equipment, the default settings are simply not the correct ones and every device needs to be optimized properly.

The following post may also be useful:

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=57741
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Old 2010-02-10, 12:52 PM   #3
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Thanks 57.I figured it out.I really just needed to go done to the "Listening Mode"" on the remote and change the various settings under the Movies.

It usually ends up being something that simple.When things just seem to be so complicated.I was pretty sure i followed everything to a "T"(well,ALMOST everything).

Thanks again for the reply and the links.
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What listening mode are you now on and what does it say on the front panel? It's easy to turn any 2-channel source into surround sound, but is it correct - more often than not, no. For example, 5/7-ch Stereo or Dolby Pro Logic are not equivalent to DD5.1.
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Old 2010-02-11, 06:52 AM   #5
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Neo 6 THX Cinema.

It shows ALL speakers lit up(i only have the speakers set-up for 5.1).Shows the THX and DTS little red icon on the display as well.

I watched Die Hard 2(reg dvd) and checked out a few concerts in 5.1.Like the Eagles in Australia.I had watched this concert many a time in 5.1 previously.So,i could tell,by the sound layout that the connection was right.

I do have a PS3,but have not,as of yet checked out any blu-rays.I imagine they should play the soundtrack as intended.

I do plan to pick up a blu-ray in the near future that will fully take advantage of this AVR(ie.True HD,DTS HD).
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Old 2010-02-11, 09:44 AM   #6
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Counter-intuitively, the PS3 has to be set up as PCM via the HDMI connection since the PS3 cannot bistream HD audio. See the part regarding HD audio near the end of the following FAQ:

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=76082

If using the optical connection from the PS3 for compressed audio, then you need to set it to bitstream. There are many audio options in the PS3, including one under "video", which is often the most important setting.
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Old 2010-02-11, 11:32 AM   #7
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The Fat-PS3 cannot bitstream HD audio, but the slim-PS3 can. For the older PS3 you need to use Linear PCM
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I have the so-called "fat"(original version).

Thanks for the tips guys!
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