TCM HD Blackout - Canadian TV, Computing and Home Theatre Forums

thenewdc · 2009-12-18, 08:21 PM

Anyone notice tonight that TCM HD is Blacked out on Rogers with a message saying that they dont have the broadcast rights in Canada, but TCM SD is showing "The Goodbye Girl". I'm surprised that Rogers is using the U.S. feed for TCM HD. I also looked through this coming weeks listings on TCM HD and their are no other blackouts scheduled. So it appears the U.S. and Canadian schedules are virtually identical now with the odd exception.

JamesK · 2009-12-18, 09:26 PM

I also noticed that blackout. It was surprising and disappointing.

57 · 2009-12-18, 11:16 PM

I also noticed it. I can only assume that they neglected to purchase the HD rights, which are negotiated separately from SD rights. May have been an oversight.

mr weather · 2009-12-19, 07:07 AM

Anyone know who owns the HD rights in Canada?

thenewdc · 2009-12-19, 09:15 AM

Are there any other providers currently carrying TCM HD? I also wonder if Rogers is performing the Blackout or its done by TCM?

viking5000 · 2009-12-22, 07:38 PM

Why is TMC even in HD ? Seems to me that a vast majority of the films are from the 30s. 40s and 50s. Does HD "broadcast" make any difference for these movies?

JamesK · 2009-12-22, 09:33 PM

I have seen some from the 60's and 70's. Also, even 4:3 movies can benefit from HD.

jayoldschool · 2009-12-22, 09:44 PM

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Seems to me that a vast majority of the films are from the 30s. 40s and 50s. Does HD "broadcast" make any difference for these movies?

Film, even old film, has a much higher resolution than HD. So, when a film is scanned (a process called "Telecline"), the resulting HD digital image still does not capture the full resolution of the film stock.

worth · 2009-12-23, 01:19 PM

True, but unfortunately the vast majority of TCM`s movies are just upscaled SD. It would be prohibitively expensive for them to create new HD transfers.

hugh · 2009-12-23, 01:43 PM

You should be happy you're not seeing it. The Goodbye Girl was a terrible movie!

Hooter · 2009-12-24, 05:31 AM

I checked on my TV last night and it was working just fine. Perhaps only certain movies are blacked out.

57 · 2009-12-24, 10:01 AM

As mentioned in earlier posts, we are discussing specific movies, which on the Rogers guide are listed as "blacked out". I assume TCM don't have the rights for those specific movies in Canada. With TCM it looks as though the US and Canadian channels are quite similar, unlike HDNet for example which has a separate schedule for Canada due to many programme rights not being available for Canada.

thenewdc · 2009-12-24, 02:46 PM

I dont see any other Blackouts scheduled on the TCM HD channel in the coming week. I'm sure its just the odd movie that will be affected, not a big deal. I guess HDNET because its on a low penetration tier doesn't want to purchase the Canadian Rights for more of its programming. TCM has way more subscibers which makes it profitable for them to do so.

57 · 2009-12-24, 04:12 PM

With HDNet I don't believe it's a matter of not purchasing rights, but rather that someone else has exclusive rights.

MapMaker · 2009-12-25, 04:59 PM

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...listed as "blacked out". I assume TCM doesn't have the rights for those specific movies in Canada.

Maybe I am missing some key piece of information but...I assume that TCM, being "Turner Classic Movies" would only show movies that are part of Turner's vast collection of films. Therefore, why would they not have the "Canadian" rights to show their own movies in Canada on their own channel?

2009-12-18, 08:21 PM	#1
thenewdc Veteran Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 2,309	TCM HD Blackout Anyone notice tonight that TCM HD is Blacked out on Rogers with a message saying that they dont have the broadcast rights in Canada, but TCM SD is showing "The Goodbye Girl". I'm surprised that Rogers is using the U.S. feed for TCM HD. I also looked through this coming weeks listings on TCM HD and their are no other blackouts scheduled. So it appears the U.S. and Canadian schedules are virtually identical now with the odd exception.

2009-12-18, 11:16 PM	#3
57 Moderator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto, Rogers, 8300HD, eHDD, Panasonic TCP65S1, Denon AVR4310Ci; 8300HD, eHDD & Sony KDL40W3000 Posts: 50,297	I also noticed it. I can only assume that they neglected to purchase the HD rights, which are negotiated separately from SD rights. May have been an oversight. __________________ 57's Home Theatre (Latest equipment & photos) 57's Optimization Services (Home Theatre Optimization)

2009-12-23, 01:43 PM	#10
hugh Member #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 47,492	You should be happy you're not seeing it. The Goodbye Girl was a terrible movie! __________________ As of January 2012, I am no longer the owner of the Digital Home website. If you have questions about the operation of the site, please contact VSAdmin. For personal inquiries contact me at the Hugh Thompson website.

2009-12-24, 10:01 AM	#12
57 Moderator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto, Rogers, 8300HD, eHDD, Panasonic TCP65S1, Denon AVR4310Ci; 8300HD, eHDD & Sony KDL40W3000 Posts: 50,297	As mentioned in earlier posts, we are discussing specific movies, which on the Rogers guide are listed as "blacked out". I assume TCM don't have the rights for those specific movies in Canada. With TCM it looks as though the US and Canadian channels are quite similar, unlike HDNet for example which has a separate schedule for Canada due to many programme rights not being available for Canada. __________________ 57's Home Theatre (Latest equipment & photos) 57's Optimization Services (Home Theatre Optimization)

2009-12-24, 04:12 PM	#14
57 Moderator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto, Rogers, 8300HD, eHDD, Panasonic TCP65S1, Denon AVR4310Ci; 8300HD, eHDD & Sony KDL40W3000 Posts: 50,297	With HDNet I don't believe it's a matter of not purchasing rights, but rather that someone else has exclusive rights. __________________ 57's Home Theatre (Latest equipment & photos) 57's Optimization Services (Home Theatre Optimization)

2009-12-18, 09:26 PM	#2
JamesK Veteran Join Date: May 2009 Location: Mississauga Posts: 5,039	I also noticed that blackout. It was surprising and disappointing.

2009-12-19, 07:07 AM	#4
mr weather Veteran Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mississauga, Ontario Posts: 1,950	Anyone know who owns the HD rights in Canada?

2009-12-19, 09:15 AM	#5
thenewdc Veteran Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 2,309	Are there any other providers currently carrying TCM HD? I also wonder if Rogers is performing the Blackout or its done by TCM?

2009-12-22, 07:38 PM	#6
viking5000 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 73	Why is TMC even in HD ? Seems to me that a vast majority of the films are from the 30s. 40s and 50s. Does HD "broadcast" make any difference for these movies?

2009-12-22, 09:33 PM	#7
JamesK Veteran Join Date: May 2009 Location: Mississauga Posts: 5,039	I have seen some from the 60's and 70's. Also, even 4:3 movies can benefit from HD.

2009-12-23, 01:19 PM	#9
worth Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 104	True, but unfortunately the vast majority of TCM`s movies are just upscaled SD. It would be prohibitively expensive for them to create new HD transfers.

2009-12-24, 05:31 AM	#11
Hooter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 160	I checked on my TV last night and it was working just fine. Perhaps only certain movies are blacked out.

2009-12-24, 02:46 PM	#13
thenewdc Veteran Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 2,309	I dont see any other Blackouts scheduled on the TCM HD channel in the coming week. I'm sure its just the odd movie that will be affected, not a big deal. I guess HDNET because its on a low penetration tier doesn't want to purchase the Canadian Rights for more of its programming. TCM has way more subscibers which makes it profitable for them to do so.

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