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Riegeler · 2010-12-31, 02:47 PM

**UPDATE**
Gave up with the NexStar enclosure, went out today and got a INEO enclosure module I-NA318U, installed my WD Caviar Blue 500Gb in it, connected it to my 6141 and just as quick as that I now have a PVR fonction on my receiver. So the problem was not the HDD but the enclosure.

mosmond77 · 2010-12-31, 06:09 PM

Hi guys,

I have been reading the various threads and have tried most of the suggestions on this forum.

My situation is that I have a NexStar CX (NST-300SU-BK) enclosure along with a WD Black (W1001FALS - 7200rpm, 1TB, no sleep mode). The only sign of life I get is when I leave the enclosure + EHD connected to the 6131, reboot the 6131 by holding down the power button for a few secs and then powering down the enclosure... I get the message - A USB device has been disconnected etc. I never get a format screen however.

I started off this fun week with a NexStar 3 which I notice many people were having issues with. I did not even get the USB device has been disconnected message with that enclosure and the same EHD.

At this point I figure the NexStar CX is actually working as I get that USB message but perhaps there is something wrong with the EHD type I have. Just wondering if anyone has had any recent success using a NexStar CX enclosure and if so, what EHD (specific manufacturer + model #) did you use.

Thanks for your help!

Mike

Ronioo · 2011-01-02, 06:51 PM

Just added a 2TB EHD (Seagate's Barracuda LP 2TB hard drive)+(Nexstar CX Model NST-300S2-BK) to my 9241. Ended up with 267h HD and 2010h SD. Haven't encountered an issues so far with this setup I will post again if I do.

Interceptor · 2011-01-02, 09:08 PM

I just added a Western Digital Elements 1.5 TB drive to my 9242. Didn't know that the 2 TB could be used at the time i ordered it. It formatted fine even though it's not a 7200 rpm drive. Now becomes the time consuming effort of transferring all my recordings from my 640 GB Hitachi drive to my 9242 and back to my 1.5 TB WD drive.

Blackloz · 2011-01-04, 08:50 AM

Well I went upstairs this morning to find my 1tb simpletech ehd clicking away. Also the receivers power light was on and I never leave them turned on, so I figure it was something to do with the 6131's nightly update. Anyway the drive is shot after 2 years of use. Goodthing when I bought a 2tb for my 9242 I also picked up an extra 1tb drive as they where both on sale. only bad thing is I lost about 40hrs of stuff.

joebloggs13 · 2011-01-04, 04:29 PM

Hi Blackloz, can you turn off your EHD daily? I have read on here that it is not advisable to do this. I purchased a 1TB Verbatim drive for my 6131 over Christmas. I would like to hold onto it for as long as I can. It`s on 24/7 right now. Thanks JoeB

Blackloz · 2011-01-04, 05:04 PM

Yes I always leave the ehd's on all the time. Its the receivers I turn off/screen saver mode. Now that I think about it, it probally didn't help the fact that I was hooking up a BD player on that tv and I bumped the little stand that the ehd is on and it fell and hit the hard wood floor. That was on boxing day and it still worked fine until today.

Westvu · 2011-01-04, 06:15 PM

1. 9242

2. Seagate FreeAgent 2TB GoFlex Desk External Drive

3. Can Archive recordings to HDD and they show up on Ex HDD

4. Next time I turn on the Receiver the recordings are gone from Ex HDD until I reboot the receiver then they are back, this happens every time.

** UPDATE**
I ended up returning this drive as I connected it to 4 different computers and not one would recognize it, they would see it in device manager but not in my computer.

dirtroad · 2011-01-04, 06:24 PM

When you first install the drive it is formatted by the 9242, if you used Linux, you could probably see what was on the drive. Was the drive one that would go to sleep, and when you rebooted the 9242 could then see it again?
You could have reformatted it with your computer and used it on your computer.
I assume no problems returning it.?

Note: If this is the drive, http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/pro...reeagent_desk/ it says it goes to sleep after 15 minutes of being idle, which doesn't met the criteria for an EHD for Bell PVRs.

ScaryBob · 2011-01-04, 06:28 PM

Quote:

I connected it to 4 different computers and not one would recognize it

If they are Windows PCs, that is normal. The drive will not be recognized anywhere but in Device Manager. It's because the 6131 uses a Linux file system that Windows does not read or write.

57 · 2011-01-04, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Westvu

Seagate FreeAgent 2TB GoFlex Desk External Drive

As mentioned above, this is one of the drives not recommended since it spins down. From the FAQ thread:

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=100773 Post 2

Westvu · 2011-01-04, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtroad

When you first install the drive it is formatted by the 9242, if you used Linux, you could probably see what was on the drive....

How would I reformat the drive if my PC doesn't recognize it or it doesn't show up in my computer?

Pinza · 2011-01-04, 09:38 PM

What about using a Linux Live CD.?

ScaryBob · 2011-01-04, 10:41 PM

It might be possible to disable the drive's sleep mode with hdparm under Linux. Not all drives support changing sleep parameters though. I've noticed that some WD drives don't.

Westvu · 2011-01-05, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinza

What about using a Linux Live CD.?

Well that one is probably beyond my computer skills as I don't have a Linux live cd or how to use it if I did have one.

2010-12-31, 06:09 PM	#377
mosmond77 Rookie Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 1	What EHD to use with a NexStar CX Enclosure for PVR functionality on the 6131? Hi guys, I have been reading the various threads and have tried most of the suggestions on this forum. My situation is that I have a NexStar CX (NST-300SU-BK) enclosure along with a WD Black (W1001FALS - 7200rpm, 1TB, no sleep mode). The only sign of life I get is when I leave the enclosure + EHD connected to the 6131, reboot the 6131 by holding down the power button for a few secs and then powering down the enclosure... I get the message - A USB device has been disconnected etc. I never get a format screen however. I started off this fun week with a NexStar 3 which I notice many people were having issues with. I did not even get the USB device has been disconnected message with that enclosure and the same EHD. At this point I figure the NexStar CX is actually working as I get that USB message but perhaps there is something wrong with the EHD type I have. Just wondering if anyone has had any recent success using a NexStar CX enclosure and if so, what EHD (specific manufacturer + model #) did you use. Thanks for your help! Mike

2011-01-04, 06:24 PM	#384
dirtroad Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 891	When you first install the drive it is formatted by the 9242, if you used Linux, you could probably see what was on the drive. Was the drive one that would go to sleep, and when you rebooted the 9242 could then see it again? You could have reformatted it with your computer and used it on your computer. I assume no problems returning it.? Note: If this is the drive, http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/pro...reeagent_desk/ it says it goes to sleep after 15 minutes of being idle, which doesn't met the criteria for an EHD for Bell PVRs. __________________ If Life is a Highway,...then why is there no end to this dirtroad?

2011-01-04, 10:41 PM	#389
ScaryBob Veteran Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: The Dandelion City Posts: 7,133	It might be possible to disable the drive's sleep mode with hdparm under Linux. Not all drives support changing sleep parameters though. I've noticed that some WD drives don't. __________________ At 20 I had a good mind. At 40 I had money. At 60 I've lost my mind and my money. Oh, to be 20 again. --Scary

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2010-12-31, 02:47 PM	#376
Riegeler Rookie Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 4	UPDATE Gave up with the NexStar enclosure, went out today and got a INEO enclosure module I-NA318U, installed my WD Caviar Blue 500Gb in it, connected it to my 6141 and just as quick as that I now have a PVR fonction on my receiver. So the problem was not the HDD but the enclosure.

2011-01-02, 06:51 PM	#378
Ronioo Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: ONT Posts: 47	Just added a 2TB EHD (Seagate's Barracuda LP 2TB hard drive)+(Nexstar CX Model NST-300S2-BK) to my 9241. Ended up with 267h HD and 2010h SD. Haven't encountered an issues so far with this setup I will post again if I do.

2011-01-02, 09:08 PM	#379
Interceptor Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sunshine Coast Posts: 593	I just added a Western Digital Elements 1.5 TB drive to my 9242. Didn't know that the 2 TB could be used at the time i ordered it. It formatted fine even though it's not a 7200 rpm drive. Now becomes the time consuming effort of transferring all my recordings from my 640 GB Hitachi drive to my 9242 and back to my 1.5 TB WD drive.

2011-01-04, 08:50 AM	#380
Blackloz Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Regina,SK & Plentywood MT Posts: 853	Well I went upstairs this morning to find my 1tb simpletech ehd clicking away. Also the receivers power light was on and I never leave them turned on, so I figure it was something to do with the 6131's nightly update. Anyway the drive is shot after 2 years of use. Goodthing when I bought a 2tb for my 9242 I also picked up an extra 1tb drive as they where both on sale. only bad thing is I lost about 40hrs of stuff.

2011-01-04, 04:29 PM	#381
joebloggs13 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 52	Hi Blackloz, can you turn off your EHD daily? I have read on here that it is not advisable to do this. I purchased a 1TB Verbatim drive for my 6131 over Christmas. I would like to hold onto it for as long as I can. It`s on 24/7 right now. Thanks JoeB

2011-01-04, 05:04 PM	#382
Blackloz Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Regina,SK & Plentywood MT Posts: 853	Yes I always leave the ehd's on all the time. Its the receivers I turn off/screen saver mode. Now that I think about it, it probally didn't help the fact that I was hooking up a BD player on that tv and I bumped the little stand that the ehd is on and it fell and hit the hard wood floor. That was on boxing day and it still worked fine until today.

2011-01-04, 06:15 PM	#383
Westvu Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: West Coast Posts: 78	1. 9242 2. Seagate FreeAgent 2TB GoFlex Desk External Drive 3. Can Archive recordings to HDD and they show up on Ex HDD 4. Next time I turn on the Receiver the recordings are gone from Ex HDD until I reboot the receiver then they are back, this happens every time. UPDATE I ended up returning this drive as I connected it to 4 different computers and not one would recognize it, they would see it in device manager but not in my computer.

2011-01-04, 09:38 PM	#388
Pinza Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: GTA Posts: 8,576	What about using a Linux Live CD.?