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Zero G · 2009-10-26, 10:00 PM

On the 6131 it's the EHD that makes it a PVR. Yes you can record on it. I believe on the dedicated PVR receivers(9000 series), the EHD is for archiving.

gworg · 2009-10-26, 11:10 PM

Thanks for that confirmation. Now it's on to the next task which is to find an EHD that doesn't sleep.

ScaryBob · 2009-10-27, 12:39 AM

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On the 6131 it's the EHD that makes it a PVR. Yes you can record on it. I believe on the dedicated PVR receivers(9000 series), the EHD is for archiving.

Correct. Sometimes we 9200/9242/9241 owners forget that the EHD also applies to the 6141/6131. (I also have a 6131 but don't use an EHD with it.) These two types of PVRs/receivers treat the EHD completely differently. Some threads may have information from before when PVR functionality was made available for the 6141/6131 receivers.

Tom.F.1 · 2009-10-27, 08:11 AM

I bought the HP SimpleSave 1TB External Hard Drive.
I've had it hooked up and working for 10 days now.
I can Archive, playback, delete or restore.
It goes to sleep after 20 minutes with no activity. Takes 3 seconds to wake up and still works. I wouldn't have bought it if I knew it went to sleep, but it seems to work fine.
Its really quiet, doesn't get hot, looks good, but the dam blue LED is way too Bright and flashes, had to cover it up.
Anybody else use this drive?

Great White North · 2009-10-27, 08:12 AM

Bell is still promoting the LaCie 750 gb EHD as the recommended drive for the 6131.
It appears this drive has now been replaced by the LaCie 1 TB drive and it is
on sale at FS this week. Has anybody been successfully using the Lacie 1 TB
drive with the Bell 6131? Any problems experienced?

Dong · 2009-10-27, 10:13 AM

Just plugged in a Western Digital 1.5 TB Hard drive last night (WD15EADS $139-$109 CAD) to my 9241.
All is well. 200+ hours of HD storage and 1000+ hours of SD.

Anyone try a 2 TB drive?
Just wondering if theres an capacity ceiling.

Zero G · 2009-10-27, 10:23 AM

The Lacie 1TB drive works fine but was too noisy for use in my bedroom. I ended up using my WD Elements 1TB drive and it is nearly silent. The Lacie will be one of my storage drives for my computers now.

Proton · 2009-10-27, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dong

Just plugged in a Western Digital 1.5 TB Hard drive last night...

How quiet is the WD 1.5 TB drive?

ScaryBob · 2009-10-27, 01:33 PM

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Just plugged in a Western Digital 1.5 TB Hard drive... 200+ hours of HD storage and 1000+ hours of SD.

Just curious as to what the exact numbers are. That would indicate just how much of the drive is actually being used. A newly formatted 1TB drive indicates 120hr HD or 1000hr SD. A freshly formatted 1.5TB should come up with about 180hr HD or 1500hr SD, if the entire drive is used. If, as I suspect may hapen, only 1.1TB is being used by the receiver then it will indicate about 132hr HD or 1100hr SD.

I suspect that the ceiling will be about 200hr HD and 1650hr SD. I base that on the 4 primary partition limit for conventional hard drive layouts. Since current receivers create 550GB partitions, that would make the limit 1650GB, slightly less than a 2TB drive. That, of course, could be changed with updated firmware or hardware.

gworg · 2009-10-27, 04:18 PM

Thanks to everyone who responded to my requests for help and information. My final decision was to get a 1TB SimpleTech SimpleDrive. The noise will take some getting used to. While not a loud noise it sounds like water dripping on something hollow and is intermittent.

Dong · 2009-10-27, 04:34 PM

The Western digital WD15EADS is the quietest drive I've heard so far.
This is coming from an exposed hard drive docking station.

ScaryBob · 2009-10-27, 07:23 PM

The Western Digital WD10EADS Caviar Green 1TB is also very quiet. In a Vantec CX case, the only way to tell if it's running (apart from the light) is to check the case temperature. It will be slightly warm if on. I've seen other brands that make a loud vibrating noise and run quite hot at idle.

Proton · 2009-10-28, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ScaryBob

The Western Digital WD10EADS Caviar Green 1TB is also very quiet. In a Vantec CX case, the only way to tell if it's running (apart from the light) is to check the case temperature. It will be slightly warm if on. I've seen other brands that make a loud vibrating noise and run quite hot at idle.

Is the Vantec CX the NST-300SU-BK with e-sata?

waterug · 2009-10-28, 03:50 PM

The extended hard drive is what makes the receiver a PVR. You can do all the things with the 6131 as others with 9241s and 9242s can with an EHD. Post #2 explains this very clearly. Be sure that the hard drive you get does not have a sleep mode because it must be on when the TV is on in order for the receiver to act as a PVR.

Pinza · 2009-10-28, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Waterug;

You can do all the things with the 6131 as others with 9241s and 9242s can with an EHD.

Well not quite. The 6131 is a single tuner so you cannot record a show, whilst watching another, that magic is reserved for the Dual Tuner models.

2009-10-27, 08:11 AM	#19
Tom.F.1 Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ajax, Ontario Posts: 1,928	HP SimpleSave 1TB External Hard Drive I bought the HP SimpleSave 1TB External Hard Drive. I've had it hooked up and working for 10 days now. I can Archive, playback, delete or restore. It goes to sleep after 20 minutes with no activity. Takes 3 seconds to wake up and still works. I wouldn't have bought it if I knew it went to sleep, but it seems to work fine. Its really quiet, doesn't get hot, looks good, but the dam blue LED is way too Bright and flashes, had to cover it up. Anybody else use this drive? __________________ Samsung TV, Pio-Elite AVR, OppoBD, Wharfedale Speakers, Kicker Subs. Bell EVu, DB-4e OTA:)

2009-10-27, 08:12 AM	#20
Great White North Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 51	LaCie 1 TB Bell is still promoting the LaCie 750 gb EHD as the recommended drive for the 6131. It appears this drive has now been replaced by the LaCie 1 TB drive and it is on sale at FS this week. Has anybody been successfully using the Lacie 1 TB drive with the Bell 6131? Any problems experienced?

2009-10-27, 07:23 PM	#27
ScaryBob Veteran Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: The Dandelion City Posts: 7,133	The Western Digital WD10EADS Caviar Green 1TB is also very quiet. In a Vantec CX case, the only way to tell if it's running (apart from the light) is to check the case temperature. It will be slightly warm if on. I've seen other brands that make a loud vibrating noise and run quite hot at idle. __________________ At 20 I had a good mind. At 40 I had money. At 60 I've lost my mind and my money. Oh, to be 20 again. --Scary

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2009-10-26, 10:00 PM	#16
Zero G Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NWO Posts: 309	On the 6131 it's the EHD that makes it a PVR. Yes you can record on it. I believe on the dedicated PVR receivers(9000 series), the EHD is for archiving.

2009-10-26, 11:10 PM	#17
gworg Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 444	Thanks for that confirmation. Now it's on to the next task which is to find an EHD that doesn't sleep.

2009-10-27, 10:13 AM	#21
Dong Rookie Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 8	Just plugged in a Western Digital 1.5 TB Hard drive last night (WD15EADS $139-$109 CAD) to my 9241. All is well. 200+ hours of HD storage and 1000+ hours of SD. Anyone try a 2 TB drive? Just wondering if theres an capacity ceiling.

2009-10-27, 10:23 AM	#22
Zero G Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NWO Posts: 309	The Lacie 1TB drive works fine but was too noisy for use in my bedroom. I ended up using my WD Elements 1TB drive and it is nearly silent. The Lacie will be one of my storage drives for my computers now.

2009-10-27, 04:18 PM	#25
gworg Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 444	Thanks to everyone who responded to my requests for help and information. My final decision was to get a 1TB SimpleTech SimpleDrive. The noise will take some getting used to. While not a loud noise it sounds like water dripping on something hollow and is intermittent.

2009-10-27, 04:34 PM	#26
Dong Rookie Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 8	The Western digital WD15EADS is the quietest drive I've heard so far. This is coming from an exposed hard drive docking station.

2009-10-28, 03:50 PM	#29
waterug Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Peterborough, ON Posts: 868	The extended hard drive is what makes the receiver a PVR. You can do all the things with the 6131 as others with 9241s and 9242s can with an EHD. Post #2 explains this very clearly. Be sure that the hard drive you get does not have a sleep mode because it must be on when the TV is on in order for the receiver to act as a PVR.