Pace Summit (DC758D) thread

[410440]

So the same function then isnt available on this that the motorola has?

[57]

Since the Pace can passthrough all the signals (unlike Motorola), then you ask the TV to stretch any SD channels. TVs remember the stretch modes for SD (480i/P) signals separately from HD (1080i/720P) signals.

Only those TVs with "auto-stretch" (there are a few) can automatically stretch HD signals (like 4:3 upconverts). I usually don't recommend using them though since the stretch mode then changes for upconverted commercials on HD programming and there is a significant delay before it kicks in - I find this very annoying.

I recommend people watch 4:3 upconverts on HD channels "as is" for the best PQ and an undistorted picture, especially if you don't have a plasma (where burn in can be a concern, but 4:3 upconverts probably represents a very small percentage of the viewing, therefore not really a concern even on plasmas).

[volan]

Originally Posted by lindend

You can move eSATA drives between Summits, but the recordings made on one box will not be visible nor are they deletable on the other Summit(s).

It's really unfortunate that the HD can't be moved to a 2nd Summit without losing what's on there. I was really hoping that it can be done. It seems that Bell HDPVRs are the only ones that allow you to move a HD between boxes so that you can record on one and watch on another.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to how a show can be recorded on one box and then played back on another?

[JayZee]

Originally Posted by Dr.Dave

JayZee, the blank recordings could be from a channel that you don't get. If you are recording a series on network TV and you don't get the time shifting package you could end up with a blank recording if you choose "All channels".

Hey Dave, no I do get that channel because I've recorded shows on that channel before
the annomly occured, and I've recorded stuff after too. Thanks anyway. And I also see
others have experienced the FF/Rev headache. I'm considering dropping the Pace and going to the Moto unit after seeing all the problems with the Pace that the Moto doesn't.

[Kritiker]

Originally Posted by JayZee

Hey guys, I picked up the DC758D a few weeks ago and ... it will make a blank scheduled recording every once in a while. .... You try to play it back and all you get is black.

Do you actually get 30, or 60, or whatever, minutes of blank playback or does attempting to play the recording give you the screens mentioned in http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/show...&postcount=273?

[JayZee]

Hey Kritiker, I think that is what I am seeing, I not 100% sure thou because the jpgs are so small on the link, but I looks like that.

[Kritiker]

Is this better?

[JayZee]

Yup, that's it, and you can restart from the beginning and it just ends up at the end again. The PVR appears to act sluggist too when playing these programs. I wonder if the files are corrupt because all you can do is delete them.

[thokor]

I bought this model of Pace on Oct 7, and have been giving it the benefit of the doubt. From the unreliable recordings, the problems with rewinding and fast-forwarding, I have finally lost patience with it and returned it to SHAW and bought a Motorola 3416.

Hopefully they fix this soon, I can live with the random fast-forward / rewind . I cannot live with the constant missing recordings and even worse, it losing the last 10 minutes of shows. It says 60 minutes on the recording but when I start it it only has 48 to 50 minutes then abruptly stops. This has happened to me 3 times now.

[Kritiker]

Originally Posted by JayZee

... I wonder if the files are corrupt because all you can do is delete them.

On the Summit (not the Aspen as far as I can tell so far) the following opens up an additonal HD diagnostic screen

From the diags main menu (not the dashboard), press 8 then 2 (i.e. 82) and hit enter.

What I don't yet know is if it also does any repairs. The next time that you have one of these failures why not try it and see what happens? Sorry, I don't know what, if any, risks are associated with doing this. I have opened up this screen on my Summit without ill effects but ....

My Summit has not yet failed so I cannot check whether any repairs are done myself, yet.

[JayZee]

How do I get into the diags main menu? I haven't seen this in the manual.

[Kritiker]

See the first post in this thread. Press left-arrow to move from the dashboard to the main menu.

[JayZee]

Okay, I'll try that next time, I guess worst case it formats the drive and erases everthing. Another new thing that has occured is that it says recordings have been interrupted and I don't see a valid reason for the interruptions. The unit is on a ups. Have you encountered this on your unit?

[Kritiker]

Yup, this is one of the problems I have seen. I wouldn't expect it to format the drive. My Aspen is, but my Summit is not, on a UPS.

The details of what I, and others have seen on our Aspens, is in the thread Pace Aspen TDC776D to be introduced, http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=95916. My most recent comments there start on page 18 around post 264. I am really sorry to hear that Summits may be afflicted with the same problems.

When you have problems again, also go into the diagnostics and check out the 24 Content Listing screen. Go into the details for the recording that isn't working and check out the MPEG Fileand Trick File sizes, given as size1 {size2}.

Perhaps you can post some screen shots or summaries of the 24 Content Listing file sizes and the 82 HDD Drive Statistics listings when you next have problems.

[Kritiker]

Here is a baseline of an 82 HDD Drive Statistics screen for a new Pace Summit with Shaw Expander, with no recordings. Sorry, I cannot get the spacing quite right. I think we'll be needing this because I am reading reports that the problems afflicting the Aspen may also be afflicting the Summit.

Question: Does invoking this screen just provide reports or does it effect repairs too?
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HDD Drive Statistics

internal HDD is none
external HDD is/dev/sda
df.
Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use%
/dev/ram0 4608 4608 0 100%
tmpfs 1408 88 1320 6%
none 16384 0 16384 0%
/dev/mtdblock4 1964 112 1852 6%
/dev/sda3 9733120 888 9732232 0%
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mount
/dev/ram0 on / type squashfs (ro)
tmpfs on /var type tmpfs (rw)
none on /proc type proc (rw)
none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw)
none on /sys type sysfs (rw)
none on /mnt/memory type tmpfs (rw)
/dev/mtdblock4 on /mnt/nvram type jffs2 (rw)
/dev/sda3 on /mnt/hd_ext type xfs (rw,noexec,rtdev=/dev/sda4
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head -1 /dev/sda PACE-2-1
head -1 /dev/sda5 hd_extSuccessfulMount
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fdisk -l /dev/sda

Disk /dev/sda: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 1 1 8001 83 Linux
/dev/sda2 2 2 8032+ 5 Extended
/dev/sda3 3 1215 9743422+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda4 1216 121601 967000545 83 Linux
/dev/sda5 2 2 8001 83 Linux
cd /mnt/hd_ext; du | tail -1
32?.
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gathering external recording statistics
external mpg count 0 (0 zero length)
external nav count 0 (0 zero length)
external xml count 0 (0 zero length)
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ls -Rail .mnt/hd_ext/lost+found
/mnt/hd_ext/lost+found:
133 drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0 6 Jan 1 2000 .
128 drwxr-xr-x 6 0 0 106 Nov 8 19:57 ..
examining defragger files
cat /mnt/gpfs/shutdown_Log
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cat /mnt/gpfs/missing_files
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cat /mnt/gpfs/internal_format_info
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cat /mnt/hd_ext/shutdown_log
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cat /mnt/hd_ext/missing_files
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cat /mnt/hd_ext/external_format_info

Disk /dev/sda: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Unformatted external disk
/var/tmp/external-disk-status: bad
Unable to retrieve external_format_info prior to reboot!
/etc/real_prepare_disk called for /dev/sda at Sun Nov 8 19:55:28
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cat /mnt/system/shutdown_log
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cat /var/tmp/internal_boot_info
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cat /var/tmp/internal_format_info
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cat /var/tmp/external_boot_info

Disk /dev/sda: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes


Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 1 1 8001 83 Linux
/dev/sda2 2 2 8032+ 5 Extended
/dev/sda3 3 1215 9743422+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda4 1216 121601 967000545 83 Linux
/dev/sda5 2 2 8001 83 Linux
Last known boot status of /dev/sda3 was: FormatComplete
mounting /dev/sda3 to replay log
Wrote hd_extMount to /dev/sda5

Wrote hd_extRepair to /dev/sda5
Repairing /dev/sda3
/usr/sbin/xfs_repair -r /dev/sda4 /dev/sda3
Phase 1 - find and verify superblock...
Phase 2 - using internal log
- zero log...
- scan filesystem free space and inode maps...
- found root inode chunk
Phase 3 - for eac AG...
- scan and clear agi unlinked lists...
- process known inodes and perform inode discovery...
- agno = 0
- agno = 1
- agno = 2
- agno = 3
- agno = 4
- agno = 5
- agno = 6
- agno = 7
- agno = 8
- agno = 9
- agno = 10
- agno = 11
- agno = 12
- agno = 13
- agno = 14
- agno = 15
- process newly discovered inodes///
Phase 4 - check for duplicate blocks...
- setting up duplicate extent list...
- clear lost_found (if it exists) ...
- check for inodes claiming duplicate blocks...
- agno = 0
- agno = 1
- agno = 2
- agno = 3
- agno = 4
- agno = 5
- agno = 6
- agno = 7
- agno = 8
- agno = 9
- agno = 10
- agno = 11
- agno = 12
- agno = 13
- agno = 14
- agno = 15
Phase 5 - rebuild AG header and trees...
- generate realtime summary info and bitmap...
- reset superblock...
Phase 6 - check inode connectivity...
- resetting contents of realtime bitmap and summary inodes
- ensuring existence of lost+found directory
- traversing filesystem starting at / ...
- traversal finished ...
- travesrsing all unattended subtrees .
- traversal finished ...
- moving disconnected inodes to lost+found ...
Phase 7 - verufy and correct link counts...
done
Wrote hd_extMount to /dev/sda5

/dev/sda3 mounted successfully
/dev/sda3 /mnt/hd_ext xfs rtdev=/dev/sda4 1 1 added to /var/tmp/fstab
Wrote hd_extSuccessfulMount to /dev/sda5
/mnt/hd_ext mounted successfully.

Mounted external disk
/var/tmp/external_disk_status: pass
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cat /var/tmp/external_format_info
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cat /var/tmp/disk_drv1
impl_DISK_Mount:2303 mounting /mnt/hd_ext
impl_DISK_UnMount:2350 unmounting /mnt/hd_ext
impl_DISK_Mount:2303 mounting /mnt/hd_ext
impl_DISK_Mount:2303 mounting /mnt/hd_ext
impl_DISK_Mount:2303 mounting /mnt/hd_ext
impl_DISK_Mount:2303 mounting /mnt/hd_ext
impl_DISK_Mount:2303 mounting /mnt/hd_ext
impl_DISK_Mount:2303 mounting /mnt/hd_ext
impl_DISK_Mount:2303 mounting /mnt/hd_ext
impl_DISK_Mount:2303 mounting /mnt/hd_ext
============================================================ =====
cat /var/tmp/disk_drv2
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