Baluns (Brands, Designs, Losses, DIY Loops, etc.)

[300ohm]

300ohm, I have a question. Would it be possible to use a PL-259 with an SO-239 to hook the RG-6 to?

Why would you want to when good F-compression fittings are available at a reasonable price ?

As for the homemade balun for channels 12 to 36, I personally would use a good commercial balun.

[Grand Audio]

In my opinion the PL-259 would be more heavy duty and a whole lot easier for me to work with. Would it change anything as far as electrical or capacitance?

It was just a thought and I hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere, so I thought I would ask.

[mlord]

Originally Posted by 300ohm

As for the homemade balun for channels 12 to 36, I personally would use a good commercial balun

... because, channels 12-13 are on VHF-HI, and the rest are UHF. A home-built coax-loop balun probably won't work as well across those two very different frequency bands as a more complex store-bought one.

[300ohm]

In my opinion the PL-259 would be more heavy duty and a whole lot easier for me to work with. Would it change anything as far as electrical or capacitance?

IIRC, I used the PL-259 on my CB antennas. Looking in my old electrical connector catalog, I get specs like : Nominal Impedance: Non-Constant, Frequency Range : 0 - 300 mhz.

[Grand Audio]

Originally Posted by mlord

... because, channels 12-13 are on VHF-HI, and the rest are UHF. A home-built coax-loop balun probably won't work as well across those two very different frequency bands as a more complex store-bought one.

Ok...you sold me on the store bought balun. This will also stop my trying to use the "CB" connectors.
(I work on CB radios and have an abundance of this type of connector...lol)

Thanks for the info and insight!

[300ohm]

Heres a picture of the Japanese balun I use. It works very well even though I havent weatherized it yet.

[Grand Audio]

Originally Posted by 300ohm

Heres a picture of the Japanese balun I use. It works very well even though I havent weatherized it yet.

All I could find in my area today was a Phillups balun. I called 3 different hardware stores and only 1 carried a balun. Same one that Wal-Mart carried. It come in a package of 2, one standard and one for the TV. Cost was over $5...I know it wasn't worth it but got one any way. Also said for indoor use only...but I will fix that.

[300ohm]

Ive never used the regular Amazing Goop, I used the Plumbers Goop. So you may want to do a test piece and measure, if any, the resistance with an ohmmeter on the highest range when its dry.

[Janitor Tzap]

I've been in consumer electronic repair for some years now.
I've always heard of these as Matching Transformers.

And these were known as just Matching Baluns.

I'm curious....
Would running 300 ohm twin pair, 7Ft or less.
From the Antenna to a Matching Balun that goes on the back of the TV RF Jack.
Reduce signal loss.

I know on longer runs you have to worry about keeping the wire away from
the mounting mast, Electrical wires, and other RF generating devices.

But this Antenna is indoor, and on a stand near by the television.
I'm currently using 6ft RG-U6 cable from the Matching Transformer to the TV.


Signed: Janitor Tzap

[johnpost]

Originally Posted by Janitor Tzap

I've been in consumer electronic repair for some years now.
I've always heard of these as Matching Transformers.

And these were known as just Matching Baluns.

I'm curious....
Would running 300 ohm twin pair, 7Ft or less.
From the Antenna to a Matching Balun that goes on the back of the TV RF Jack.
Reduce signal loss.

I know on longer runs you have to worry about keeping the wire away from
the mounting mast, Electrical wires, and other RF generating devices.

But this Antenna is indoor, and on a stand near by the television.
I'm currently using 6ft RG-U6 cable from the Matching Transformer to the TV.


Signed: Janitor Tzap

a balun is a type of transformer, both items pictured are baluns.

any amount of misplacement, near any material, of 300 ohm will have signal loss. you are less likely to have that misplacement in 7 feet. also the 300 ohm could pick up interference depending on where it is placed.

you would have one less connection and so one less chance of a bad connection if you ran the 300 ohm all the way to the set. though you would need to use the push on balun pictured which is easy to have a bad connection with.

best to try it and see results.

[300ohm]

any amount of misplacement, near any material, of 300 ohm will have signal loss. you are less likely to have that misplacement in 7 feet.

Yes, but there is also an advantage to that, because then you can use the old aluminum foil sliding trick to tune the 300 ohm wire.

[Janitor Tzap]

Yes, but there is also an advantage to that, because then you can use the old aluminum foil sliding trick to tune the 300 ohm wire.

Is that anything like the Toroid Ring trick for antenna matching?

I'll give the 300 ohm wire to the Matching Balun a try first.
Since I have several short pieces of 300 ohm wire laying around any way.


Signed: Janitor Tzap

[Grand Audio]

Originally Posted by 300ohm

Ive never used the regular Amazing Goop, I used the Plumbers Goop. So you may want to do a test piece and measure, if any, the resistance with an ohmmeter on the highest range when its dry.

It says Plumbing on the tube. Says it hardens by solvent evaporation and forms an immediate bond. It is a contact adhesive and sealant. Yea, I better test on an old balun I have!

Thanks 300ohm.

[intravino]

Thanks for the Picture 300ohm.

Where do you think I could find one or two?

Thanks,

Intravino

[300ohm]

Flea markets.