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AsherN · 2013-02-07, 02:06 PM

How about, just drop the charge. It was introduced to help offset the technology deployment.

yyzlhr · 2013-02-07, 05:32 PM

If anything they will just roll it into the monthly service fee and remove it as a line item on your invoice. In the Toronto area, Bell's in market plans with all the fees included cost exactly the same as Rogers.

reidw · 2013-02-07, 05:40 PM

I can confirm that rotary/dial phone still works. We still have one rotary phone on our home phone line. My wife wants it for one reason: the ringer/bell. She hates the quality of any touch tone phone ringer. Our rotary can be heard clearly all over the house (3 floors) and unlike a more modern phone the ring can't be confused with any other device.

ExDilbert · 2013-02-08, 12:26 PM

I have a newer Panasonic handset that sounds just like a ringer. It surprised me just how authentic it sounds. Purists may disagree and I can see where a real bell has its charm. I chose our doorbell because of the real chime mechanism.

I hung onto a dial phone for years in order to avoid the touch tone fee. I didn't give in until handsets were deregulated and I could get rid of the handset rental fee. These days the TTF is a relic and only exists due to archaic government regulation.

jdevlin · 2013-02-10, 09:03 AM

The fee exists because the regulators allow it and it is another source of revenue to to BELL.
All new lines must have it. But I have two old lines that have never had it and I must used pulse dial setting or rotary phones. I can add it but why should I.

JamesK · 2013-02-10, 12:24 PM

^^^^
Have you tired it recently? It might work.

BTW, at the time TT was introduced, back in the '60s, it was a premium service, which could be charged extra for. Back then even a phone in a colour other than black cost extra.

ExDilbert · 2013-02-10, 06:13 PM

I can recall that. It doesn't seem like a lot now but when basic telephone was $7-$8 a month adding almost $2 for TT and as much more for a colour phone was a big deal. Many people's wages were under $2/hr as well. IIRC, the minimum wage was $1.75 when it was introduced about that time. When the TT fee was introduced, the CRTC forced Bell to list it separately. Bell still does.

jdevlin · 2013-02-10, 08:26 PM

TT does not work on my lines that I do not pay the TT fee. Just tested it.

57 · 2013-02-10, 11:35 PM

It won't work to dial the number, however, once you are connected, you can switch the phone to TT and use it to navigate menus, etc.

I did this for many years until I switched to Rogers Home Phone. BTW, pulse phones do work on Rogers service, which is TT.

jdevlin · 2013-02-11, 09:02 AM

Yes that works fine. Bell passes the tones through. They just block them from the dialing function within their own system.

2013-02-10, 12:24 PM	#21
JamesK Veteran Join Date: May 2009 Location: Mississauga Posts: 5,039	^^^^ Have you tired it recently? It might work. BTW, at the time TT was introduced, back in the '60s, it was a premium service, which could be charged extra for. Back then even a phone in a colour other than black cost extra. __________________ The following program contains immature subject matter. Viewer discretion is advised.

2013-02-10, 11:35 PM	#24
57 Moderator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto, Rogers, 8300HD, eHDD, Panasonic TCP65S1, Denon AVR4310Ci; 8300HD, eHDD & Sony KDL40W3000 Posts: 50,298	It won't work to dial the number, however, once you are connected, you can switch the phone to TT and use it to navigate menus, etc. I did this for many years until I switched to Rogers Home Phone. BTW, pulse phones do work on Rogers service, which is TT. __________________ 57's Home Theatre (Latest equipment & photos) 57's Optimization Services (Home Theatre Optimization)

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2013-02-07, 02:06 PM	#16
AsherN Rookie Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 13	How about, just drop the charge. It was introduced to help offset the technology deployment.

2013-02-07, 05:32 PM	#17
yyzlhr Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 668	If anything they will just roll it into the monthly service fee and remove it as a line item on your invoice. In the Toronto area, Bell's in market plans with all the fees included cost exactly the same as Rogers.

2013-02-07, 05:40 PM	#18
reidw Veteran Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Stratford, PE. Posts: 2,463	I can confirm that rotary/dial phone still works. We still have one rotary phone on our home phone line. My wife wants it for one reason: the ringer/bell. She hates the quality of any touch tone phone ringer. Our rotary can be heard clearly all over the house (3 floors) and unlike a more modern phone the ring can't be confused with any other device.

2013-02-08, 12:26 PM	#19
ExDilbert Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: 43° N, 81° W Posts: 963	I have a newer Panasonic handset that sounds just like a ringer. It surprised me just how authentic it sounds. Purists may disagree and I can see where a real bell has its charm. I chose our doorbell because of the real chime mechanism. I hung onto a dial phone for years in order to avoid the touch tone fee. I didn't give in until handsets were deregulated and I could get rid of the handset rental fee. These days the TTF is a relic and only exists due to archaic government regulation.

2013-02-10, 09:03 AM	#20
jdevlin Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Wainfleet Posts: 467	The fee exists because the regulators allow it and it is another source of revenue to to BELL. All new lines must have it. But I have two old lines that have never had it and I must used pulse dial setting or rotary phones. I can add it but why should I.

2013-02-10, 06:13 PM	#22
ExDilbert Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: 43° N, 81° W Posts: 963	I can recall that. It doesn't seem like a lot now but when basic telephone was $7-$8 a month adding almost $2 for TT and as much more for a colour phone was a big deal. Many people's wages were under $2/hr as well. IIRC, the minimum wage was $1.75 when it was introduced about that time. When the TT fee was introduced, the CRTC forced Bell to list it separately. Bell still does.

2013-02-10, 08:26 PM	#23
jdevlin Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Wainfleet Posts: 467	TT does not work on my lines that I do not pay the TT fee. Just tested it.

2013-02-11, 09:02 AM	#25
jdevlin Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Wainfleet Posts: 467	Yes that works fine. Bell passes the tones through. They just block them from the dialing function within their own system.