Rogers going digital but need PVR,, how? - Canadian TV, Computing and Home Theatre Forums

jerkyboy · 2012-05-23, 08:54 PM

Ok, so Rogers has gone digital and is supplying the Cisco DTA50 which has its own tuner. Urghh!!!

When I heard Rogers was supplying digital adapters I thought it was just going to be decoders. But the added tuner creates a problem with my Hauppauge tuner/PVR installed in my HTPC.

So what is the simplest solution to get around this.

I would still like to have a PVR within my HTPC but don't know how so with the Rogers Cisco unit.

Ultimately I'd like to record one channel while watching another.

OTAJuncqui · 2012-05-24, 07:00 AM

The Hauppage HD-PVR should work.

jerkyboy · 2012-05-24, 10:48 AM

I found a solution on another forum.

What I have to do is get another Cisco DTA50 from Rogers
One for the TV and one dedicated to the Hauppauge 2250
Then I'll be able to record other TV programs on other channels on the Hauppauge.
Though I'll lose the ability to program via WMC and all other programming via WMC. I will have to look for a solution for that.

OTAJuncqui · 2012-05-24, 11:16 AM

If you check the Hauppauge FAQ on the 2250 it clearly states it cannot do STB HD (and good old Rogers encrypts even SD).
Hauppauge says the HD-PVR will record from a STB.
You have another option but this thread is for "blue" so I am not allowed to talk about "yellow".

ScaryBob · 2012-05-24, 11:59 AM

Several options are available.

1. Obtain another Cisco DTA50. That will allow recording or watching of up to 2 channels. The downside is that picture quality will be fairly poor.
2. Obtain a second cable box with composite video out. This will provide a slightly better picture and also allow option 3 below.
3. Connect the 2250 tuner(s) to an antenna. There is lots of info in the OTA forum on this so please discuss there. The HUGE advantage to OTA is that US and Canadian networks are available in high definition, providing better picture and sound. US networks also provide subchannels with content not available in Canada.

TorontoColin · 2012-05-25, 08:44 PM

He never said he wanted HD. If he was using analog cable before than he was watching in SD anyway.

You might be able to use the PC to control the DTA via an IR blaster.

Wayne · 2012-05-25, 10:21 PM

Pretty much all PVR software can control an STB with an IR blaster and many cards have s-video or composite inputs if you only want SD. You are in Toronto so OTA may also be an option and is easier to record than cable.

edit - But to tune two channels at once will require two boxes.

jerkyboy · 2012-05-27, 06:12 PM

TorontoColin is correct, I am only watching SD for now.

Current finances are preventing me from going out right now and buying a Rogers HD box plus the Hauppauge 1414 HD capture card so I'll have to fuddle around with what I have now.

I think my best solution is to try get another Cisco DTA50 from Rogers to record other then what I'm watching.

2012-05-23, 08:54 PM	#1
jerkyboy Rookie Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: GTA t.dot Posts: 16	Rogers going digital but need PVR,, how? Ok, so Rogers has gone digital and is supplying the Cisco DTA50 which has its own tuner. Urghh!!! When I heard Rogers was supplying digital adapters I thought it was just going to be decoders. But the added tuner creates a problem with my Hauppauge tuner/PVR installed in my HTPC. So what is the simplest solution to get around this. I would still like to have a PVR within my HTPC but don't know how so with the Rogers Cisco unit. Ultimately I'd like to record one channel while watching another.

2012-05-24, 07:00 AM	#2
OTAJuncqui Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Nepean, ON Posts: 338	The Hauppage HD-PVR should work. __________________ Srvr:ASUSF1A75-VPro,RadHD6000,A6-3670K,WD2TB,W7Ult NPVR,5.1,2xHaup2250MC,ATI650,CM7777,WGHD8800,5clts

2012-05-24, 11:16 AM	#4
OTAJuncqui Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Nepean, ON Posts: 338	If you check the Hauppauge FAQ on the 2250 it clearly states it cannot do STB HD (and good old Rogers encrypts even SD). Hauppauge says the HD-PVR will record from a STB. You have another option but this thread is for "blue" so I am not allowed to talk about "yellow". __________________ Srvr:ASUSF1A75-VPro,RadHD6000,A6-3670K,WD2TB,W7Ult NPVR,5.1,2xHaup2250MC,ATI650,CM7777,WGHD8800,5clts

2012-05-24, 11:59 AM	#5
ScaryBob Veteran Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: The Dandelion City Posts: 7,133	Several options are available. 1. Obtain another Cisco DTA50. That will allow recording or watching of up to 2 channels. The downside is that picture quality will be fairly poor. 2. Obtain a second cable box with composite video out. This will provide a slightly better picture and also allow option 3 below. 3. Connect the 2250 tuner(s) to an antenna. There is lots of info in the OTA forum on this so please discuss there. The HUGE advantage to OTA is that US and Canadian networks are available in high definition, providing better picture and sound. US networks also provide subchannels with content not available in Canada. __________________ At 20 I had a good mind. At 40 I had money. At 60 I've lost my mind and my money. Oh, to be 20 again. --Scary

2012-05-25, 08:44 PM	#6
TorontoColin Moderator Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Toronto, Wind Mobile, Rogers Cable, Teksavvy Extreme Cable Posts: 3,254	He never said he wanted HD. If he was using analog cable before than he was watching in SD anyway. You might be able to use the PC to control the DTA via an IR blaster. __________________ Rules of the Forum \| DHC Help Desk DHC now supports Tapatalk for mobile devices!

2012-05-24, 10:48 AM	#3
jerkyboy Rookie Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: GTA t.dot Posts: 16	I found a solution on another forum. What I have to do is get another Cisco DTA50 from Rogers One for the TV and one dedicated to the Hauppauge 2250 Then I'll be able to record other TV programs on other channels on the Hauppauge. Though I'll lose the ability to program via WMC and all other programming via WMC. I will have to look for a solution for that.

2012-05-25, 10:21 PM	#7
Wayne Veteran Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Scarboro Posts: 5,578	Pretty much all PVR software can control an STB with an IR blaster and many cards have s-video or composite inputs if you only want SD. You are in Toronto so OTA may also be an option and is easier to record than cable. edit - But to tune two channels at once will require two boxes.

2012-05-27, 06:12 PM	#8
jerkyboy Rookie Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: GTA t.dot Posts: 16	TorontoColin is correct, I am only watching SD for now. Current finances are preventing me from going out right now and buying a Rogers HD box plus the Hauppauge 1414 HD capture card so I'll have to fuddle around with what I have now. I think my best solution is to try get another Cisco DTA50 from Rogers to record other then what I'm watching.

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