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Old 2009-03-23, 12:34 PM   #241
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Yep, saw one on the shelf at Downsview an hour ago.
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Old 2009-03-26, 06:27 AM   #242
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But for how long. I wonder if Bell (Or the manufacturers) are still building 9242's.
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Old 2009-03-26, 02:04 PM   #243
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I think earlier post in this thread have Bell discontinuing them in Jan09. The manufacture may still make them but they wouldn't be branded Bell or work on the Bell system
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Old 2009-03-27, 09:39 PM   #244
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But for how long. I wonder if Bell (Or the manufacturers) are still building 9242's.
No they aren't and haven't been for sometime. Bell does not appear to want to sell the 722 which is the 622 (9242) replacement.
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Old 2009-03-28, 11:05 AM   #245
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Default return buggy rental 9200 to buy 6131 + EHDD or demand rental 9242 to replace 9200?

Hi

I have renatl 9200, thinking about 6131 and 9242. Much more control with larger cheap storage attachable, and much lower price point than 9241.

Just to reconfirm the following:

- Is the user experience between having an onboard HD (9241/42/00) any different than usb storage only as in 6131, or is the HDD witht the 6131 as seemless as on the built-in ones.
- 6131 allows recording one program while watching live tv, but cannot record 2 programs while watching a recorded one, as the 9242 can since only 1 tuner.
- 6131 supports mpeg 2 and 4, so will not be obsolete if bell drops mpeg2
- 6131 does not suffer from reported problems on the 9241 re: fuzzy or dark SD (i assume due to decoding hardware or soft choices on 9241)
- 6131 has UHF remote
- 6131 can output both to HDMI and component in HD simultaneously, ie one output is not disabled because the other is in use. This allows me to have TV with component upstairs through the floor (uhf remote needed), and 6131 in basement with hdmi going to projector for occasional use.
- 6131 is plug and play with my current 2 tuner config used by 9200
- 6131 does not have EHD glitches that 9241 does?

- 9242 does all of the above, i.e. EHD working well, ability to switch between 2 HD broadcasts
- 9242 will support any changes to codec changes so is as "futureproof" as 6131 or 9241
- if I understand correctly, no 9242s available from Bell at least on a purchase basis.

Replacing rental 9200 with jump to live bug with 9242 strategy
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If I complain about the jump to live bug on my current rental 9200, and demand a switch to a 9242 or threaten departure, has anyone been successful with this strategy, or do they still send out replacement 9200s with different HDs? Assuming 9242 is the only possible replacement for the 9200 as far as 2 separate TV tuner outs, etc.

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Old 2009-03-28, 11:17 AM   #246
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- Is the user experience between having an onboard HD (9241/42/00) any different than usb storage only as in 6131, or is the HDD witht the 6131 as seemless as on the built-in ones.6131/6141 become Single Tuner HD PVR's NOT Dual Tuner HD PVR's
- 6131 allows recording one program while watching live tv, but cannot record 2 programs while watching a recorded one, as the 9242 can since only 1 tuner.No. It is a Single Tuner HD PVR, so it CANNOT record one show while watching a second LIVE one. It can reord one show while watching a RECORDED show.
- 6131 supports mpeg 2 and 4, so will not be obsolete if bell drops mpeg2Correct. Not IF but WHEN.
- 6131 does not suffer from reported problems on the 9241 re: fuzzy or dark SD (i assume due to decoding hardware or soft choices on 9241)Never seen this issue on the countless 9241's I have seen installed.
- 6131 has UHF remoteIncorrect, it is an IR Remote, same as the 6141.
- 6131 can output both to HDMI and component in HD simultaneously, ie one output is not disabled because the other is in use. This allows me to have TV with component upstairs through the floor (uhf remote needed), and 6131 in basement with hdmi going to projector for occasional use.Correct, exactly the same as ALL of Bell's HD receivers. You will need to purchase an RF Extender as the 6131/6141 are NOT RF Remotes
- 6131 is plug and play with my current 2 tuner config used by 9200Yes, it only requires 1 input.
- 6131 does not have EHD glitches that 9241 does?I would think this would depend on the EHD you purchase as to it's operation. I am not aware of any major "glitch's" on the 9241

- 9242 does all of the above, i.e. EHD working well, ability to switch between 2 HD broadcastsThe 9242 is a Triple Tuner HD PVR, it also has the OTA HD Tuner
- 9242 will support any changes to codec changes so is as "futureproof" as 6131 or 9241
- if I understand correctly, no 9242s available from Bell at least on a purchase basis.6131/6141/9241 & 9242 are all MPEG4 compatible. There are NO MORE 9242's available, unless you find one in a store. All remaining Bell stock is for warranty replacement only

The external Hard Drive feature on the 9242 & 9241 is for ARCHIVING ONLY, it is not used to record to.

Replacement 9200's are available in quite large numbers. They do not differentiate between the Hard Drives inside them, they would just ship you another one, period.
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Old 2009-03-29, 12:11 PM   #247
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I had an interesting conversation with a Bell rep as I too hit the panic button when I wanted to purchase my 9242 and they said no. So I went looking and found a couple but then I wondered if the 9241 is better. Well simply put, the 9242 for my instalation is the one I want as I run 2 tv's from it and have access to my previous cable connection to run it to the second tv. The 9241 cannot run two tv's and it cannot run PIP if you want this feature. I prefer to run the second tv in leiu of pip on the 9242.

Now for the they did it again. If you remember, a couple of months back BCE was being taken over by the Teachers Retirement fund and then they walked away. I suspect they put a strangle hold on additional funds being spent. Maybe this is why apparently Bell never ordered any additional 9242 for themselves or this guy rep said they forgot too. So in order to keep doing business, they purchased a bunch of 9241 for new customers. SOOOO the 9242 are not obsolete, they will be coming back however, it takes awhile to built up stock. Dishnetwork uses the same receivers so I'm sure they sell one hell of alot more than Bell and still have their two tuner receiver. Now on their network, you can set up recording and communicate with your receiver thru your cell phone.

If you you check the Dishnetwork sight, there are also some new features coming out which I'm sure Bell will introduce however, they probably need new equipment. On another call I was told that something new was coming out and it would be announced at a later date. I won't hold my breath with todays economic times but visit Dishnetworks website and you'll see the same equipment with additional features. When we will see this stuff, who knows.....Also remember that Bell will not sell 9242's until they get rid of their 9241 stock after all we have to pay for their mistake.
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Old 2009-03-29, 01:21 PM   #248
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I was under the impression that the 9242 or the Dish version, the 722, is no longer manufactured.
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Old 2009-03-29, 04:14 PM   #249
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The Dish version of the 9242 was the 622 which is no longer made. They still make the 722 and now have the 722K.
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Old 2009-03-29, 04:47 PM   #250
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So the Dish version was Silver.?
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Old 2009-03-29, 09:09 PM   #251
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Pinza, thanks for the replies.

On the 6131, i guess lack of 2 tuners will be a major drawback since we record so much, leads me to 9242 again.

My first question was comparing a 6131 with external storage vs a 9200 for example. Is the PVR experience seemless as on the 9200 or are there weak spots that remind you that you have an external HD?

Any 6131 owners who had a 9200 or 9242?

This brings up the obvious question. If 9242 gone, what will they replace my 9200 with when the time comes? 9241 would be a step down.

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Old 2009-03-29, 10:39 PM   #252
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So the Dish version was Silver.?
Correct.
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Old 2009-03-30, 07:54 AM   #253
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My first question was comparing a 6131 with external storage vs a 9200 for example. Is the PVR experience seemless as on the 9200 or are there weak spots that remind you that you have an external HD?

This brings up the obvious question. If 9242 gone, what will they replace my 9200 with when the time comes? 9241 would be a step down.
I would suggest you take a read through some of the 6131 and EHD threads. There are a few quirks for EHD vs "proper" PVR. Personally, I would say anyone that wants "real" PVR, to be used all the time vs someone that uses it occasionaly, should go for the 9xxx series over the 6xxx.

As this is not happeneing yet, nobody can answer this yet. Who knows what models will be available when the time comes. If ti is a rental, then they will replace it with "something", if it is a n owned unit, the may or may not upgrade for free, again, nobody knows at this time.
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Old 2009-04-01, 11:15 AM   #254
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Default Buy 2 6131? due to 9242 not available

Feel free to comment on the following setup:

I'm thinking of returning my 9200, maybe to buy 2 6131s (149 each), hooked up to my 2 lines for the 9200. One would have 1tb storage attached, the other just for viewing.

- I would not have pip
- I would have to swap inputs on the TV to go from one box to the other
- I would have to have the remotes on different codes, unless i bought an uhf extender for one unit in the basement, and use the provided IR for the other
- I could still watch HD while recording HD on the other box
- I could record 2 HD feeds at same time
- I could watch 2 HD feeds, swapping between TV inputs, not be very user friendly
- If i installed a second 1tb HDD on box 2, I could record lots of stuff overnight
- I could watch different HD content simultaneously to the TV and the basement projector, equal to putting the 9200 in dual(sic) mode

a somewhat clunky dual tuner setup, with one or 2 external PVR attachments, but for the low price might be worth considering

Question:
- Would bell allow this, would there be any additional monthly fees? Right now I only have 1 card on my 9200, and 1 card in my SD box, so I guess I would require another card.
- Could I get out the door with 2 units from source cc without activation needed



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Old 2009-04-01, 12:37 PM   #255
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Sounds clunky if you only need to feed just one television. Personally I would stick with the 9200, or get a 9241 if you need the external storage feature.

Bell doesn't charge additional fees for PVR's. To purchase receivers from the Source, or anywhere else, you must already be a customer, or sign up as a new customer then. Receiver activation is done after you install the receiver.

What do you mean by card?

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