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Old 2006-02-28, 10:30 AM   #1
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This story just like Jaws, officials don't want the truth to come out for fear of lost $ . A bad reminder that there is no place like home.
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Old 2006-02-28, 11:04 AM   #2
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I dunno, it's all speculation at this point. We don't have enough facts to determine whether anybody's screwing-up or not, but of course that didn't stop Stockwell Dumb-Ass from jumping in and slagging them funny-speakin' furriners. His statements were uncalled for, since the Mexicans had already requested RCMP assistance in the investigation. Oh well, once an idjut, always an idjut....

I just hope the investigators get to the bottom of it before the trail goes ice cold....
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Old 2006-02-28, 01:33 PM   #3
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A bad reminder that there is no place like home.
You're correct of course. There is no place like home. That is why people who want things to be "just like at home" should stay at home.

People who want to enjoy the pleasures of other places are well advised to understand that no place is all pleasures. People from other countries enjoy visiting Canada, but for them, "there's no place like home". For example, Americans may be outraged that they could be sent to jail for carrying a handgun.

Canadians who visit the US may be outraged that the US government asserts that they have the right to imprison people without right to legal council and without legal protection from sleep deprivation, withholding of food and other coercive actions.

And Canadians who travel to Mexico may be surprised at the huge differences in both the legal principles and the processes in the criminal law systems between these countries.
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Old 2006-02-28, 03:04 PM   #4
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The media in Toronto (and some politicos) seem to be jumping to the conclusion that the Mexicans are all corrupt, clueless stumblebums who never solve anything unless they're threatened or bribed, but apparently this prosecuter did lay charges against some local people involved in the killing of some European tourists, so I think we should realize that he may be on the right track. Two people killed in mysterious circumstances is always going to be hard to solve, no matter who's in charge.....
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Old 2006-02-28, 03:14 PM   #5
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Having just gotten back from a two week stay in Mexico (Peurto Vallerta area)
I can honestly say that most of the mexicans I spoke to are far from clueless. In fact many seemed like honest hard working people simply trying make a living, kinda like you and I.
This murder just stinks of a hit. Slashed throats, nothing stolen, criminals believed to have left the country immediately after, or maybe I watch to much Sopranos.
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Old 2006-02-28, 06:57 PM   #6
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Mexico is a country of such contrasts and contradictions. I love it, but I also know it has many problems.

This morning on the CBC show "The Current", there was a speaker from Human Rights Watch. He said that 90% of serious crimes in Mexico go unsolved. Andof those crimes that are solved, 90% are solved on the basis of eyewitnesses. Only 10% of 10% are solved on the basis of sound investigative police work.

Public employees in Mexico are very poorly paid. Hence the public service is attractive to those who are otherwise not competitive.

I haven't heard any allegations of any kind of corruption in this investigation. But it is important to be aware that public employment is also attractive to those who either seek to supplement their income, or are willing to supplement their income, or are forced to supplement their income, from non-employment benefits.
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Old 2006-03-02, 07:45 AM   #7
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I've been hearing a lot of people accusing the Mexican police of bungling, incompetence, and corruption, of being clueless when it comes to an organized investigation and that they might "fix" the evidence to fit their preconceived suspects.

Perhaps. But I would also like to remind people about Air India, Robert Pickton, Paul Bernardo, Guy Paul Morin, Donald Marshall, David Milgaard, Jamie Nelson, Steven Truscott, and who knows how many other examples of corrupt and incompetent justice proceedings in our own country.

So those who live in glass houses...
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Old 2006-03-02, 08:13 AM   #8
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I think we have heard many Mexican's say in this case the Mexican police were bungling, incompetent, corrupt, and clueless when it comes to an organized investigation .Just because we might have a few skeletons in the closet does not mean there is no room for an opinion.

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Old 2006-03-02, 12:28 PM   #9
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My neighbours recently moved to Canada from Mexico City. It took them a few months to get comfortable with the fact that their kids' schoolyard doesn't have barbed wire around it and armed guards to prevent kidnappings. According to the neighbours, Mexican law enforcement and politics makes it a very different place from Canada.

Biglyle -- I think you're onto something. This looks like either a successful hit or a botched hit (mistaken identity).

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Old 2006-03-02, 05:06 PM   #10
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A police depot was recently built across the street from our house in Mexico.

There was serious discussion about whether this would decrease or increase security risks for homeowners.
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Old 2006-03-02, 11:25 PM   #11
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A police depot was recently built across the street from our house in Mexico.

There was serious discussion about whether this would decrease or increase security risks for homeowners.

spit beer on my laptop....thanks for that

Somehow I too do not trust this investigation.....you see those poor Canadian ladies who they are pointing as their # 1 suspects...
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