Is the availability of smartphone recording coming to SHAW soon? - Page 5 - Canadian TV, Computing and Home Theatre Forums

Spike4881 · 2012-05-29, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by moosebump

Gotta love marketing. I'm still not sure what "exo" is.

It's a stylized "XO". Shaw is a very affectionate company.

moosebump · 2012-05-30, 04:45 PM

Shaw??? Hello? Another 3 months....nothing. Where is the smartphone app?

This pops into my head one or twice a month when I'm sitting at work and suddenly remember i want to record something.

Smartphone PVR is not even listed on the Gateway page as part of the "future ready" features. The 2 features listed are Wifi (doesn't pretty much everyone with an internet connection already have wifi...in fact Shaw gave me a new hybrid modem/wifi router when i upgraded to the Gateway) and DLNA (not sure how much this will add since i have AppleTV other than it will be available on 3 TVs instead of one).

Jetranger · 2012-05-30, 06:37 PM

I think it is safe to assume that if this has been in the works for a couple of years now and we still haven't seen it released that it likely won't be happening anytime soon. Shaw has many differences from other cable operations that make this sort of 'feature' a liability for them so it isn't as simple as 'ask and you shall receive'.

PokerChip · 2012-05-31, 01:40 PM

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Shaw has many differences from other cable operations that make this sort of 'feature' a liability for them so it isn't as simple as 'ask and you shall receive'.

I very much would like to know what this means...

From my perspective (long, long time Shaw customer), it means: We will not get our feet wet. We will not innovate. We will simply keep up with the pace and make sure our shareholders are happy.

buckycat · 2012-05-31, 02:05 PM

In what what way does Shaw have many differences from other cable operations? If they weren't capable of fully supporting the Gateway they should have looked a system that is compatible.

Jetranger · 2012-05-31, 02:29 PM

Without going into details, which I really don't have anyway, Shaw built a divided or separate network for their phone and internet services and the TV delivery(I don't know if this is two or three networks). The infrastructure for this made the respective networks more 'stable' but the Gateway system was designed to work in a fully integrated network like most other CableCos have.

Shaw was actually thinking they were being innovative and forward-thinking back when they made the decision to build their network the way they did. They are also continuously working on 'new' features and services to offer but because they are 'different' from the majority of the world, it makes things harder for them and consequently it takes much longer to make 'solutions', that others can simply throw the switch for, work in a divided environment.

This may eventually lead to integration of Shaw's networks(which may be happening now for all I know). If they don't integrate then they will continue to be encumbered at the price of the stability and security they have worked so hard to achieve. Personally, I would rather have a secure network now and wait a little longer for 'new' equipment/features to be worked into the system.

This is what has been described to me over the past several years so take it for what it's worth. I doubt you will get anyone from Shaw either confirming or denying any of it. If I'm wrong, I do apologize.

drzoidberg · 2012-06-01, 12:22 AM

I will confirm pretty much exactly what you just said. And Shaw has two networks, one for phone/gateway, one for internet/TV and all other cable boxes. Shaw is working to get everything switched to one network.

Udowish · 2012-08-02, 04:10 PM

I guess this is one example of what Shaw thought was being innovative with separate networks actually turned out to be a hindrance. This network amalgamation has been in the works for years now.

inthetech · 2012-08-24, 09:08 PM

I don't know where you get your information about network amalgamations being in the works for years; but I would say that you're wrong. And no its not a hinderance. Its just that Shaw puts a high value on your voice traffic.

hoho · 2012-08-31, 08:17 PM

Still nothing from Shaw about remote recording?

Jetranger · 2012-08-31, 08:39 PM

Still in the works.

Zippy69 · 2012-09-26, 12:51 PM

when i was talking to a specialized senior gateway tech he said the app is supposed to be out by the end of the year

DSgamby · 2012-09-26, 12:54 PM

But he did not say what year? lol

PokerChip · 2012-09-26, 05:36 PM

I don't know whether this is good news or not...

Shaw takes so long to get anything moving it's sad.

Dardarbinks · 2013-03-04, 01:37 AM

I can't believe I have been waiting for over 3 years for this. The only thing keeping me to Shaw is the cable channel package I got 12 years ago and Telus has nothing similar. I feel hostage to a dinosaur. Anybody hear any rumblings to keep me tethered or is it finally time??

2012-05-30, 06:37 PM	#63
Jetranger Premium Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Calgary SonyTVs,ShawGateway&6Portals DCX3400, Pace 770D, 5ShawExpanders:3WD,1Sgt,1iOmga Harmony One Posts: 3,331	I think it is safe to assume that if this has been in the works for a couple of years now and we still haven't seen it released that it likely won't be happening anytime soon. Shaw has many differences from other cable operations that make this sort of 'feature' a liability for them so it isn't as simple as 'ask and you shall receive'. __________________ If you want more then ask for it rather than going hungry. If you want more than I have then you should ask. They're going to park their car over there.

2012-05-31, 02:29 PM	#66
Jetranger Premium Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Calgary SonyTVs,ShawGateway&6Portals DCX3400, Pace 770D, 5ShawExpanders:3WD,1Sgt,1iOmga Harmony One Posts: 3,331	Without going into details, which I really don't have anyway, Shaw built a divided or separate network for their phone and internet services and the TV delivery(I don't know if this is two or three networks). The infrastructure for this made the respective networks more 'stable' but the Gateway system was designed to work in a fully integrated network like most other CableCos have. Shaw was actually thinking they *were* being innovative and forward-thinking back when they made the decision to build their network the way they did. They are also continuously working on 'new' features and services to offer but because they are 'different' from the majority of the world, it makes things harder for them and consequently it takes much longer to make 'solutions', that others can simply throw the switch for, work in a divided environment. This may eventually lead to integration of Shaw's networks(which may be happening now for all I know). If they don't integrate then they will continue to be encumbered at the price of the stability and security they have worked so hard to achieve. Personally, I would rather have a secure network now and wait a little longer for 'new' equipment/features to be worked into the system. This is what has been described to me over the past several years so take it for what it's worth. I doubt you will get anyone from Shaw either confirming or denying any of it. If I'm wrong, I do apologize. __________________ If you want more then ask for it rather than going hungry. If you want more than I have then you should ask. They're going to park their car over there.

2012-08-31, 08:39 PM	#71
Jetranger Premium Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Calgary SonyTVs,ShawGateway&6Portals DCX3400, Pace 770D, 5ShawExpanders:3WD,1Sgt,1iOmga Harmony One Posts: 3,331	Still in the works. __________________ If you want more then ask for it rather than going hungry. If you want more than I have then you should ask. They're going to park their car over there.

2012-09-26, 05:36 PM	#74
PokerChip Veteran Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: New house and HT, Shaw Gateway + 4 portals, BB50 Posts: 2,192	I don't know whether this is good news or not... Shaw takes so long to get anything moving it's sad. __________________ Pics of my Home Theatre Updated May 2013: http://www.flickr.com/photos/6168808...57626366077975

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2012-05-30, 04:45 PM	#62
moosebump Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 96	Shaw??? Hello? Another 3 months....nothing. Where is the smartphone app? This pops into my head one or twice a month when I'm sitting at work and suddenly remember i want to record something. Smartphone PVR is not even listed on the Gateway page as part of the "future ready" features. The 2 features listed are Wifi (doesn't pretty much everyone with an internet connection already have wifi...in fact Shaw gave me a new hybrid modem/wifi router when i upgraded to the Gateway) and DLNA (not sure how much this will add since i have AppleTV other than it will be available on 3 TVs instead of one).

2012-05-31, 02:05 PM	#65
buckycat Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Mission BC Posts: 318	In what what way does Shaw have many differences from other cable operations? If they weren't capable of fully supporting the Gateway they should have looked a system that is compatible.

2012-06-01, 12:22 AM	#67
drzoidberg Rookie Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 18	I will confirm pretty much exactly what you just said. And Shaw has two networks, one for phone/gateway, one for internet/TV and all other cable boxes. Shaw is working to get everything switched to one network.

2012-08-02, 04:10 PM	#68
Udowish Join Date: May 2008 Location: Calgary: Samsung UND556300 LED Tv, DCT 3400, Gateway + 2 portals,shaw PVR expander; Toshiba 42ZV655 Posts: 129	I guess this is one example of what Shaw thought was being innovative with separate networks actually turned out to be a hindrance. This network amalgamation has been in the works for years now.

2012-08-24, 09:08 PM	#69
inthetech Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 20	I don't know where you get your information about network amalgamations being in the works for years; but I would say that you're wrong. And no its not a hinderance. Its just that Shaw puts a high value on your voice traffic.

2012-08-31, 08:17 PM	#70
hoho Rookie Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 13	Still nothing from Shaw about remote recording?

2012-09-26, 12:51 PM	#72
Zippy69 Rookie Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Port Coquitlam, B.C. Posts: 28	when i was talking to a specialized senior gateway tech he said the app is supposed to be out by the end of the year

2012-09-26, 12:54 PM	#73
DSgamby Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario Posts: 3,895	But he did not say what year? lol

2013-03-04, 01:37 AM	#75
Dardarbinks Rookie Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1	I can't believe I have been waiting for over 3 years for this. The only thing keeping me to Shaw is the cable channel package I got 12 years ago and Telus has nothing similar. I feel hostage to a dinosaur. Anybody hear any rumblings to keep me tethered or is it finally time??