Nimiq 6 (New Bell Satellite) Discussion - Page 7 - Canadian TV, Computing and Home Theatre Forums

Pinza · 2012-05-25, 10:57 AM

Nimiq 6 can transmit SD & HD, it will certainly use 8PSK for HD which is now the standard for Bell TV.

frenchhomer · 2012-05-26, 12:52 AM

As pinza said expect hd from the 91 slot , as we speak certain TP at 91 have been inactive for some quite time. That means more channels whether sd or hd coming soon if N6 is successful.

MCIBUS · 2012-05-26, 05:21 PM

Interesting.

So in other words N4(82) will basically be HD & N6(91)will be HD & SD.

One thing,i'm not that skilled at this but by having HD & Sd on the same sat will that not dimmision PQ on N6 for both HD & SD?

Which ever the case I just hope we see signals like we get from N4(82) 95-100% on all TRS.

QCK · 2012-05-26, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MCIBUS

One thing,i'm not that skilled at this but by having HD & Sd on the same sat will that not dimmision PQ on N6 for both HD & SD?

No, having both or either makes to difference on PQ, it is up to Bell to decide how much bandwidth allocate to the channels which then in turn determines how many channels can be on each transponder..

Pinza · 2012-05-27, 06:55 AM

The sats can broadcast EITHER SD or HD at the flick of a switch or two, they are NOT dedicated to one format. A Transponder can broadcast in MPEG2 or MPEG4, not BOTH.

Bell used the birds at 82 for SD & HD almost from the start, this is nothing new at all.

PQ is dependent on the algorithms used by Bell during the encoding process, not the TP used.

JasperJoe · 2012-05-27, 10:23 AM

I'll try this again as my last post was deleted for being apparently off topic.

I'm very disappointed that the footprint of this new satellite is much reduced. I can see no advantage to the new sat. for me personally though I understand the technical reasons for launching it. I spend 5 months of the year in the southern USA and I've started looking at alternatives to BellTV.

dirtroad · 2012-05-27, 10:37 AM

The satellites at 91W are being replaced as they near the end of their life expectancy, plus one has been operating at reduced capacity and power since partial failure.
Fine tuning of the signal footprint is probably to enhance east/west and northern signal coverage.

Pinza · 2012-05-27, 10:52 AM

Quote:

I've started looking at alternatives to BellTV

And so you should.

You are breaking the terms set out by Bell in their Customer Service Agreement by watching Bell TV in America.

The advantage is that we in Canada will get a more powerful satellite and theoretically less rain fade with Nimiq 6 than currently.

Reception in the States should NEVER have been expected or relied upon, personally I am glad to see the reduced footprint of Nimiq 6.

JasperJoe · 2012-05-27, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinza

You are breaking the terms set out by Bell in their Customer Service Agreement by watching Bell TV in America.

If I were watching BellTV in the USA I would indeed be breaking the CSA, but I didn't actually say that I was.

57 · 2012-05-27, 12:44 PM

OK, USA reception (outside the footprint) is discussed in other threads. If you're interested in Satellite alternatives from Canada, there is only Shaw Direct. See the following threads:

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=62645 Shaw Direct South of Canada

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=120768 BTV South of Canada

Can we now stick to the topic?

rogue17 · 2012-05-28, 02:42 PM

I too am very anxious about the new 91 bird and can't wait to see the difference. As for the footprint I think it's a good thing. After a Canadian company distributing signal in Canada should offer the best possible here.
Shawdirect will be doing the same.

Does anyone know where it is now. Last time it was at 138.

QCK · 2012-05-28, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogue17

Does anyone know where it is now.

136.28 use the link to see: http://www.n2yo.com/?s=38342

kovalev · 2012-05-28, 06:53 PM

Thank's for the link, but,

How to tell if everything is going the way it should,

is it at the right place for the present time, ...

Pinza · 2012-05-28, 06:56 PM

For that information you will need an insider at Telesat Canada.

dirtroad · 2012-05-28, 07:12 PM

Came across this by accident but thought someone might be interested.

2012-05-27, 10:23 AM	#96
JasperJoe Rookie Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 29	Nimiq 6 I'll try this again as my last post was deleted for being apparently off topic. I'm very disappointed that the footprint of this new satellite is much reduced. I can see no advantage to the new sat. for me personally though I understand the technical reasons for launching it. I spend 5 months of the year in the southern USA and I've started looking at alternatives to BellTV.

2012-05-27, 10:37 AM	#97
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2012-05-27, 12:44 PM	#100
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2012-05-25, 10:57 AM	#91
Pinza Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: GTA Posts: 8,575	Nimiq 6 can transmit SD & HD, it will certainly use 8PSK for HD which is now the standard for Bell TV.

2012-05-26, 12:52 AM	#92
frenchhomer Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 111	As pinza said expect hd from the 91 slot , as we speak certain TP at 91 have been inactive for some quite time. That means more channels whether sd or hd coming soon if N6 is successful.

2012-05-26, 05:21 PM	#93
MCIBUS Veteran Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ottawa Posts: 2,077	Interesting. So in other words N4(82) will basically be HD & N6(91)will be HD & SD. One thing,i'm not that skilled at this but by having HD & Sd on the same sat will that not dimmision PQ on N6 for both HD & SD? Which ever the case I just hope we see signals like we get from N4(82) 95-100% on all TRS.

2012-05-27, 06:55 AM	#95
Pinza Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: GTA Posts: 8,575	The sats can broadcast EITHER SD or HD at the flick of a switch or two, they are NOT dedicated to one format. A Transponder can broadcast in MPEG2 or MPEG4, not BOTH. Bell used the birds at 82 for SD & HD almost from the start, this is nothing new at all. PQ is dependent on the algorithms used by Bell during the encoding process, not the TP used.

2012-05-28, 02:42 PM	#101
rogue17 Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 553	I too am very anxious about the new 91 bird and can't wait to see the difference. As for the footprint I think it's a good thing. After a Canadian company distributing signal in Canada should offer the best possible here. Shawdirect will be doing the same. Does anyone know where it is now. Last time it was at 138.

2012-05-28, 06:53 PM	#103
kovalev Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Lachute, Quebec Posts: 213	Thank's for the link, but, How to tell if everything is going the way it should, is it at the right place for the present time, ...

2012-05-28, 06:56 PM	#104
Pinza Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: GTA Posts: 8,575	For that information you will need an insider at Telesat Canada.