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Jason316 · 2012-04-25, 06:37 PM

NHL is learning....NBA always has unusual times for playoffs

Jaymeister · 2012-04-26, 08:15 AM

Another thing the NHL could learn from the NBA is not to wait around to start a series. It's not uncommon for the NBA to start a second round series before the first round is over. (Since they play with a firm bracket in the playoffs rather than a re-seed, the second round matchups are often set early.) Since all of the Western Conference series were over by Monday night, they could have started the second round in the West last night or tonight, but they waited until Friday. Along with all of those two off-day breaks in the first round, the playoffs are stretching out longer than they need to.

reidw · 2012-04-26, 08:37 AM

@jaymeister: The way the NHL does it is neater, tidier and easier to follow. You're not having to keep track of who is playing a first round vs second round series. In addition given the roughness of the game giving the players a few days off allows for injuries to heal more completely and also rewards those teams that complete their series in fewer games.

Off topic but... If you want to look at a league that to me draws out its playoffs way too far, it's the NFL. That two week break before the Super Bowl just deadens the excitement that the playoffs have built up. It's mid-winter and I find myself almost forgetting that the BIG game is coming up. Teams go stale from the break in what has been their routine for the six previous months. I believe that the layoff is one of the reasons why Super Bowls often turn into Super Bores. Neither team has been able to maintain their momentum.

NB Josh · 2012-04-26, 12:56 PM

I don't like the way the NBA does their playoffs. The start times are terrible for local fans (lots of 8:30 or even 9:00 local starts). There's no real reason to start the West games before the Eastern Conference finishes. Those would just be lost in the shuffle anyway. There are 3 big game 7s on between last night and tonight, just enjoy those. The Predators-Coyotes series begins Friday night, so its not like there are days off between the two rounds.

roger1818 · 2012-04-26, 01:36 PM

I tend to agree with NB Josh. I don't see how an 8:30 pm local start can be good for viewership. Imagine if it is one of those record breaking overtimes. In basketball it is rare to have more than one overtime period, so they can get away with it more easily.

My guess is we have NBC to thank for this. I am just glad the Sens game is starting on time.

jumpy27 · 2012-04-26, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reidw

Off topic but... If you want to look at a league that to me draws out its playoffs way too far, it's the NFL. That two week break before the Super Bowl just deadens the excitement that the playoffs have built up. It's mid-winter and I find myself almost forgetting that the BIG game is coming up. Teams go stale from the break in what has been their routine for the six previous months. I believe that the layoff is one of the reasons why Super Bowls often turn into Super Bores. Neither team has been able to maintain their momentum.

Unfortunately, one week is not enough time for all the families and friends of the players to prepare and travel to the Superbowl city; and 2 weeks is too long as you stated. The NFL has tried both and they chose the 2 week plan. Ten days would be perfect, but they don't want to play the SB on a Wednesday--after all it is Superbowl Sunday. And I disagree: The last several SB's have been very entertaining. Back on topic.

DSgamby · 2012-04-27, 09:28 PM

2012 EASTERN CONFERENCE Semifinals
series i Time (ET) #1 vs. #7 Networks
Saturday, April 28, 2012 3:00 p.m. Washington at NY Rangers NBC, CBC, RDS
Monday, April 30, 2012 7:30 p.m. Washington at NY Rangers NBCSN, CBC, RDS
Wednesday, May 2, 2012 7:30 p.m. NY Rangers at Washington NBCSN, CBC, RDS
Saturday, May 5, 2012 12:30 p.m. NY Rangers at Washington NBC, CBC, RDS
*Monday, May 7, 2012 7:30 p.m. Washington at NY Rangers NBCSN, CBC, RDS
*Wednesday, May 9, 2012 TBD NY Rangers at Washington TBD, CBC, RDS
*Saturday, May 12, 2012 TBD Washington at NY Rangers TBD, CBC, RDSI

series j Time #5 vs. #6 Networks
Sunday, April 29, 2012 3:00 p.m. New Jersey at Philadelphia NBC, CBC, RDS
Tuesday, May 1, 2012 7:30 p.m. New Jersey at Philadelphia NBCSN, CBC, RDS
Thursday, May 3, 2012 7:30 p.m. Philadelphia at New Jersey NBCSN, CBC, RDS
Sunday, May 6, 2012 7:30 p.m. Philadelphia at New Jersey NBCSN, CBC, RDS
*Tuesday, May 8, 2012 TBD New Jersey at Philadelphia NBCSN, CBC, RDS
*Thursday, May 10, 2012 TBD Philadelphia at New Jersey TBD, CBC, RDS
*Saturday, May 12, 2012 TBD New Jersey at Philadelphia TBD, CBC, RDS

2012 WESTERN CONFERENCE semiFINALS
series k
Time #2 vs. #8 Networks
Saturday, April 28, 2012 7:30 p.m. Los Angeles at St. Louis NBCSN, TSN, RDS
Monday, April 30, 2012 9:00 p.m. Los Angeles at St. Louis CNBC, TSN, RDSI
Thursday, May 3, 2012 10:00 p.m. St. Louis at Los Angeles NBCSN, TSN, RDS
Sunday, May 6, 2012 3:00 p.m. St. Louis at Los Angeles NBC, TSN, RDS
*Tuesday, May 8, 2012 TBD Los Angeles at St. Louis CNBC, TSN, RDSI
*Thursday, May 10, 2012 TBD St. Louis at Los Angeles TBD, TSN, RDS
*Saturday, May 12, 2012 TBD Los Angeles at St. Louis TBD, TSN, RDS

series l
Time #3 vs. #4 Networks
Friday, April 27, 2012 9:00 p.m. Nashville at Phoenix NBCSN, TSN, RDS
Sunday, April 29, 2012 8:00 p.m. Nashville at Phoenix NBCSN, TSN, RDS
Wednesday, May 2, 2012 9:00 p.m. Phoenix at Nashville CNBC, TSN, RDSI
Friday, May 4, 2012 7:30 p.m. Phoenix at Nashville NBCSN, TSN, RDS
*Monday, May 7, 2012 10:00 p.m. Nashville at Phoenix NBCSN, TSN, RDS
*Wednesday, May 9, 2012 TBD Phoenix at Nashville TBD, TSN, RDSI
*Friday, May 11, 2012 TBD Nashville at Phoenix TBD, TSN, RDS

Classof83 · 2012-04-27, 10:00 PM

I can't wait for tomorrow's NBC backhaul wildfeed between the Caps and Rangers... 35 Mbps!!! 3.5 the rate of Rogers!!!

StickyDragon · 2012-05-02, 04:52 PM

I prefer how the NHL waits to play the second round until all the first round series are done. It's stupid to have games from multiple rounds all happening at once, and as someone else said it rewards teams that finish early. I do agree that the 2 week break before superbowl is really annoying. Nobody cares about the pro-bowl, so it's just a wasted week.

alebowgm · 2012-05-02, 04:54 PM

Which is why they are getting rid of the Pro Bowl. But the Pro Bowl for many years was played AFTER the Superbowl. The built in rest week was for purposes of travel and promotion of the game.

But maybe its time for us to get back on topic now.

alebowgm · 2012-05-02, 07:59 PM

I have the NYR-WAS game on but muted. But did CBC just cut during live play to a commercial break?

Andrew1 · 2012-05-02, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alebowgm

I have the NYR-WAS game on but muted. But did CBC just cut during live play to a commercial break?

Yes. Then they repeated the same three commercials during the stoppage in play.

alebowgm · 2012-05-02, 08:03 PM

Did they apologize when they came back or make any mention of it?

Andrew1 · 2012-05-02, 08:05 PM

Not that I heard. It sounded like they rejoined the commentators in mid-sentence so the latter probably don't know anything about it yet.

alebowgm · 2012-05-02, 08:07 PM

Was anyone watching on the CBC website? Were the commercials ran there as well or did they stick with live play?

2012-04-26, 01:36 PM	#95
roger1818 Veteran Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ottawa (Stittsville), ON, OTA (Radio Shack Omnidirectional Antenna and 5Y6S in Attic), MythTV HTPC Posts: 5,680	I tend to agree with NB Josh. I don't see how an 8:30 pm local start can be good for viewership. Imagine if it is one of those record breaking overtimes. In basketball it is rare to have more than one overtime period, so they can get away with it more easily. My guess is we have NBC to thank for this. I am just glad the Sens game is starting on time. __________________ Link to my TVFool results is in my profile Homepage URL. I suggest others do the same.

2012-05-02, 04:54 PM	#100
alebowgm Veteran Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 3,962	Which is why they are getting rid of the Pro Bowl. But the Pro Bowl for many years was played AFTER the Superbowl. The built in rest week was for purposes of travel and promotion of the game. But maybe its time for us to get back on topic now. __________________ Windsor:CM4228+4220HD to 1.Samsung LNT3242H+2.AccessHD DTA1080D [RCA DTA800+CM7775+DTB-H260F in storage] GTA:LN40B750

2012-05-02, 07:59 PM	#101
alebowgm Veteran Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 3,962	I have the NYR-WAS game on but muted. But did CBC just cut during live play to a commercial break? __________________ Windsor:CM4228+4220HD to 1.Samsung LNT3242H+2.AccessHD DTA1080D [RCA DTA800+CM7775+DTB-H260F in storage] GTA:LN40B750

2012-05-02, 08:03 PM	#103
alebowgm Veteran Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 3,962	Did they apologize when they came back or make any mention of it? __________________ Windsor:CM4228+4220HD to 1.Samsung LNT3242H+2.AccessHD DTA1080D [RCA DTA800+CM7775+DTB-H260F in storage] GTA:LN40B750

2012-05-02, 08:07 PM	#105
alebowgm Veteran Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 3,962	Was anyone watching on the CBC website? Were the commercials ran there as well or did they stick with live play? __________________ Windsor:CM4228+4220HD to 1.Samsung LNT3242H+2.AccessHD DTA1080D [RCA DTA800+CM7775+DTB-H260F in storage] GTA:LN40B750

2012-04-25, 06:37 PM	#91
Jason316 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: North Vancouver, BC Posts: 274	NHL is learning....NBA always has unusual times for playoffs

2012-04-26, 08:15 AM	#92
Jaymeister Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto, Rogers Cable, 8642HD, LG 55LW5600, Sony BDVE980W Posts: 389	Another thing the NHL could learn from the NBA is not to wait around to start a series. It's not uncommon for the NBA to start a second round series before the first round is over. (Since they play with a firm bracket in the playoffs rather than a re-seed, the second round matchups are often set early.) Since all of the Western Conference series were over by Monday night, they could have started the second round in the West last night or tonight, but they waited until Friday. Along with all of those two off-day breaks in the first round, the playoffs are stretching out longer than they need to.

2012-04-26, 08:37 AM	#93
reidw Veteran Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Stratford, PE. Posts: 2,509	@jaymeister: The way the NHL does it is neater, tidier and easier to follow. You're not having to keep track of who is playing a first round vs second round series. In addition given the roughness of the game giving the players a few days off allows for injuries to heal more completely and also rewards those teams that complete their series in fewer games. Off topic but... If you want to look at a league that to me draws out its playoffs way too far, it's the NFL. That two week break before the Super Bowl just deadens the excitement that the playoffs have built up. It's mid-winter and I find myself almost forgetting that the BIG game is coming up. Teams go stale from the break in what has been their routine for the six previous months. I believe that the layoff is one of the reasons why Super Bowls often turn into Super Bores. Neither team has been able to maintain their momentum.

2012-04-26, 12:56 PM	#94
NB Josh Veteran Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New Brunswick - Shaw Direct Posts: 3,150	I don't like the way the NBA does their playoffs. The start times are terrible for local fans (lots of 8:30 or even 9:00 local starts). There's no real reason to start the West games before the Eastern Conference finishes. Those would just be lost in the shuffle anyway. There are 3 big game 7s on between last night and tonight, just enjoy those. The Predators-Coyotes series begins Friday night, so its not like there are days off between the two rounds.

2012-04-27, 09:28 PM	#97
DSgamby Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario Posts: 3,932	2012 EASTERN CONFERENCE Semifinals series i Time (ET) #1 vs. #7 Networks Saturday, April 28, 2012 3:00 p.m. Washington at NY Rangers NBC, CBC, RDS Monday, April 30, 2012 7:30 p.m. Washington at NY Rangers NBCSN, CBC, RDS Wednesday, May 2, 2012 7:30 p.m. NY Rangers at Washington NBCSN, CBC, RDS Saturday, May 5, 2012 12:30 p.m. NY Rangers at Washington NBC, CBC, RDS Monday, May 7, 2012 7:30 p.m. Washington at NY Rangers NBCSN, CBC, RDS Wednesday, May 9, 2012 TBD NY Rangers at Washington TBD, CBC, RDS Saturday, May 12, 2012 TBD Washington at NY Rangers TBD, CBC, RDSI series j Time #5 vs. #6 Networks Sunday, April 29, 2012 3:00 p.m. New Jersey at Philadelphia NBC, CBC, RDS Tuesday, May 1, 2012 7:30 p.m. New Jersey at Philadelphia NBCSN, CBC, RDS Thursday, May 3, 2012 7:30 p.m. Philadelphia at New Jersey NBCSN, CBC, RDS Sunday, May 6, 2012 7:30 p.m. Philadelphia at New Jersey NBCSN, CBC, RDS Tuesday, May 8, 2012 TBD New Jersey at Philadelphia NBCSN, CBC, RDS Thursday, May 10, 2012 TBD Philadelphia at New Jersey TBD, CBC, RDS Saturday, May 12, 2012 TBD New Jersey at Philadelphia TBD, CBC, RDS 2012 WESTERN CONFERENCE semiFINALS series k Time #2 vs. #8 Networks Saturday, April 28, 2012 7:30 p.m. Los Angeles at St. Louis NBCSN, TSN, RDS Monday, April 30, 2012 9:00 p.m. Los Angeles at St. Louis CNBC, TSN, RDSI Thursday, May 3, 2012 10:00 p.m. St. Louis at Los Angeles NBCSN, TSN, RDS Sunday, May 6, 2012 3:00 p.m. St. Louis at Los Angeles NBC, TSN, RDS Tuesday, May 8, 2012 TBD Los Angeles at St. Louis CNBC, TSN, RDSI Thursday, May 10, 2012 TBD St. Louis at Los Angeles TBD, TSN, RDS Saturday, May 12, 2012 TBD Los Angeles at St. Louis TBD, TSN, RDS series l Time #3 vs. #4 Networks Friday, April 27, 2012 9:00 p.m. Nashville at Phoenix NBCSN, TSN, RDS Sunday, April 29, 2012 8:00 p.m. Nashville at Phoenix NBCSN, TSN, RDS Wednesday, May 2, 2012 9:00 p.m. Phoenix at Nashville CNBC, TSN, RDSI Friday, May 4, 2012 7:30 p.m. Phoenix at Nashville NBCSN, TSN, RDS Monday, May 7, 2012 10:00 p.m. Nashville at Phoenix NBCSN, TSN, RDS Wednesday, May 9, 2012 TBD Phoenix at Nashville TBD, TSN, RDSI Friday, May 11, 2012 TBD Nashville at Phoenix TBD, TSN, RDS

2012-04-27, 10:00 PM	#98
Classof83 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 882	I can't wait for tomorrow's NBC backhaul wildfeed between the Caps and Rangers... 35 Mbps!!! 3.5 the rate of Rogers!!!

2012-05-02, 04:52 PM	#99
StickyDragon Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 304	I prefer how the NHL waits to play the second round until all the first round series are done. It's stupid to have games from multiple rounds all happening at once, and as someone else said it rewards teams that finish early. I do agree that the 2 week break before superbowl is really annoying. Nobody cares about the pro-bowl, so it's just a wasted week.

2012-05-02, 08:05 PM	#104
Andrew1 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Greater Toronto Posts: 678	Not that I heard. It sounded like they rejoined the commentators in mid-sentence so the latter probably don't know anything about it yet.

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