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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Toronto
Posts: 47,492
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Lots of folks around here seem to be pretty excited about Voip.ms but it seems pretty intimidating for many of us including me.
Would anyone care to volunteer to put together a how-to of how to go about getting hook-up (okay a dummies guide)? I would be happy to be the test guinea pig. The goal would be to put together a step by step approach that we could then post on the site for future users. Please contact me if you are interested. Hugh
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Oak Ridges, On
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I just did it last night, so I'll see how much of it I remember. I think you can probably change the order of these around a bit, but I think I did it like this...
1) Sign-up for a voip.ms account. Once you sign up you will be able to get into the members area. It will put you into the Account Information area. If you are not there, using the menus at the top of the screen go to Main Menu, Account Information. 2) Configure your ATA. a) Connect you ATA to your router (before or after, depending on the model) b) Under the Voip Servers section of the Account Information, click on the link for the configuration examples. c) Pick your type of Adaptor. I use a Linksys PAP2T-NA, so I choose the Linksys example. d)follow the steps in the configuration example - At the top, select the closest server to you (I use Toronto) - Follow the rest of the steps - Note for the PAP2T-NA, you need to set 2 Nat fields in the adapter, and they are location in the ADVANCED settings. It took me a while to find them. 3) Configure your voip account a) Go to Main Menu, Account Settings. Here you can adjust your account info. A couple things I changed: - select the USA48/Canada Routing (premium or value, I selected value) - set your CallerID Number b) Scroll down to Default Routing Options, and select the server you will be using (I'm using Toronto) 4) Add some money to your account. You have to add money before you can order a DID or make any calls. a) In the top menus, go to Finances, Add Funds b) Follow the instructions to add $25 (the minimum amount) 5) Order a DID a) In the top menus, go to DID Numbers, Order DID(s) b) Select Canada (or whatever country you want a number for) c) At the top you can select a province (for Canada, anyway), and below you can select the region (town) for which you would like to see a list of numbers d) Pick a number that looks easy to remember or feels lucky. The number will be linked you your Voip account using the server you set is step 3b above. e) Scroll down and select a payment plan (Per minute or flat rate) f) Scroll a bit further down and confirm your server g) Scroll down even further and select Click Here to Confirm You Order to buy the number 6) Connect a phone to your ATA and try and make a call. My outgoing calls worked right away. The only issue I had was getting my DID for incoming calls working, but it was due to me not being able to find the Nat settings in my ATA that I mentioned above. Total time to set this all up was about 45 minutes, including calling a few people to test out the quality. I'm still playing around with settings, and this weekend will be a larger test than last night, so I'm sure I'll come across some tweaks. Next step will be to do a bit of testing and then port my existing land line number over once I cancel from Bell. |
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Toronto
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I used these instructions when I set up.
If you are new to VoIP.ms, please feel free to add any suggestions.
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 37
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I think a how-to for voip.ms would be a great idea Hugh. Voip can save most of us a fair amount of money and voip.ms probably has the best rates for Canadians. The setup however can be quite intimidating for most people, as you pointed out.
Voip.ms runs a discount rate service. They charge wholesale rates for people who bring their own hardware. They don't sell or provide plug and play equipment. They don't specialize in hand holding. They do provide configuration files to copy and paste if you are using one of the common adapters. If you aren't using one of the common adapters, you have to work your way own way through the configuration, and this can add considerable complexity, especially with a multi-line sip phone. To illustrate, I purchased an Aastra 6757i ct. It was recommended the best VoIP phone, period . It is a dream come true if you're a techno geek. More features than you can imagine. It even comes with a 1200 page administrators manual. ![]() I think a users guide or a F.A.Q.s, sorted by make of adapter or phone, would be a great help. There are a only few commonly used adapters and a half dozen makes of popular sip phones. Is that the sound of volunteers rushing the forum? |
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Member #1
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Toronto
Posts: 47,492
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If you'd like to add some helpful hints then please do.
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 37
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I can only offer some general tips at this point Hugh.
Regarding the voip.ms portal: There is a lot of information there, most of which you don't see until you have an account and log in. Creating an account is free. Take some time, hover your mouse pointer over the drop down menus and click on the question marks wherever they are found. For most users with a basic phone setup the instructions provided by DdDave should get you up and running. If uninterrupted phone service is important to you, remember to setup a call forwarding number to a land line or a cell phone. You will have more interruptions to your phone service on voip than you had on the phone service you are used to. Servers go down occasionally, so does the internet. When choosing a device or ip phone, choose one of the commonly used models. If you run into any problems it will be much easier to fix. Regarding DIDs (phone numbers). If you have a number you wish to keep, start the porting process to voip.ms before you advise your current carrier; you won't risk losing it that way. Once I get all the bugs sorted out I will post screen shots of my configuration pages along with explanations where the default settings were changed. |
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Vancouver, BC
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I started playing with VoIP last week, here's what I would recommend people do.
1) Create your voip.ms account Be aware that the password you enter at this time will be your Customer Portal and your Main SIP/IAX Passwords. I recommend you change both to a complicated password (the webpage tells you if your password is complex or not) if you went with a simple one. For this go to Main Menu > Account Settings 2) Add some money by going to Finances > Add Funds Install a Softphone on your computer. I installed X-Lite 4 for no particular reason other than this is what I found first. 3) Configure X-Lite 4 with voip.ms Open Softphone > Account Settings and enter the following (my comments in brackets): Account name: VOIPms (any name you want, I like naming things after the server I will connect to). User Details: User ID: <your SIP Username> (on voip.ms, go to Main Menu > Account Information) Domain: seattle.voip.ms (select the server that's closest to you from the list of voip.ms Servers - I'm in Vancouver so Seattle it is) Password: <SIP Password> (the one I asked you to change) Display name: <Your name> If all goes well, once you click OK the softphone should 'register' with voip.ms. If the green Call button letters are white, you're good. Ensure you're using your headset on the client. Go to Softphone > Preferences > Devices and ensure that you are using the correct speaker, microphone amd HID device. 4) Switch to your web broswer and go to your Account Settings (Main Menu > Account Settings), look for the row that says: CallerID Number - hover on top of the (?) and see what it says - enter your current phone number (no spaces or dots or hyphens). Once you enter your phone number, press apply (just to the right of the box). You should now be able to make phone calls from your softphone. And people who get them will see the number you entered in the CallerID field. If you go to your Account Settings (voip.ms), you can play with the different options for your main SIP account - of interest here would be the routing (value or premium) options. If you wish to be able to receive calls then you need to get a DID, but that’s another story. |
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Join Date: May 2011
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Great thread and posts. I am thinking about gradually easing my telecom needs to the voip.ms . Using the posts here, I will go with the softphone first. I would like to see more hardware, software guides/instructions. I will also contribute my own when I go . My goal is to move away from the expensive landline and to build an uninterrupted voip system (possibly with pbx as in mango's blog) for my home.
I currently use the regular POST landline, highspeed dsl internet, and basic cable modem. All members in the home have cell phones. I'm thinking about a digital home with all my tv/media programs, internet, and phone united in a box. I would also like to manage this system from my smart phone also. Can't wait to see what others are doing! |
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 463
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Other than enabling your account to allow international calls you will have to submit an ID (through you voip.ms account) to be cleared if you want to call to any one on the list "questionable" countries. High incidences of fraud linked to those countries probably have something to do with it.
These countries are Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Anguilla, Armenia, Australia, Australia Territories, Azerbaijan, Bangladesh, Belarus, Benin, Bhutan, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Botswana, Brunei, Bulgaria, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cameroon, Cape Verde, Central African Republic, Chad, Comoros, Comoros, Congo, Cook Islands, Croatia, Cuba, Dem. Rep. of Congo, Egypt, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Estonia, Falkland Islands, Faroe Islands, Fiji, French Guiana, French Polynesia, Gabon, Gambia, Georgia, Ghana, Gibraltar, Guinea, Guinea Bissau, Guyana, Honduras, Hungary, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kenya, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Latvia, Lebanon, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Lithuania, Macau, Macedonia, Madagascar, Malawi, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali, Malta, Marshall Islands, Mauritania, Mauritius Island, Micronesia, Moldova, Mongolia, Montserrat, Morocco, Mozambique, Namibia, Nauru, New Caledonia, Niger, Nigeria, Niue Island, North Korea, Oman, Papua New Guinea, Reunion Island, Romania, Russia, Rwanda, Sao Tome & Principe, Senegal, Serbia, Sierra Leone, Slovakia, Slovenia, Solomon Islands, South Africa, Sri Lanka, St. Helena, Sudan, Suriname, Swaziland, Syria, Tajikistan, Tanzania, Togo, Tokelau, Tonga, Tunisia, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Tuvalu, Uganda, Ukraine, Uzbekistan, Vanuatu, Wallis & Futuna, Yemen (Arab Republic), Zambia and Zimbabwe. |
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Brampton, ON
Posts: 484
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I am looking to cancel my home phone service and would like to port my current home number to a call forwarding service that would simply forward the calls to a cell phone. Can voip.ms do this? It seems like it, but I've read the above posts, and looked at the voip.ms site, and I can't seem to figure out if I can do it or not. Any thoughts on that? Or should I bee looking at one of the (literally hundreds) of providers that do that? I'd like to go with a Canadian company if possible.
Thanks Tom |
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 32
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Just signed up with voip.ms. I'm using Cisco SPA2102 ATA and one issue I had to sort out was the configuration where the I wanted to disable the built-in router functionality and put it behind the existing router. Following steps got it working:
Hope this helps Sam |
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Oshawa
Posts: 497
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I apologize in advanced if live links are not allowed. But, this site has setup guidelines for all the different devices for all the different services.
http://voipfan.net
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 9
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Thanks for contributing guys, I'll definitely be using it when I switch from the underlords at Rogers.
Which ATA would you recommend? I'm looking for something very user-friendly (I'm implying I'm an idiot) |
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 98
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I find the web interface for the PAP2T is a bit antiquated compared to some more recent devices (not talking about VoIP devices, more like routers and other such gizmos), but it's OK - it has the advantage of not requiring you to go through 20 tabs to configure stuff (unlike my router which is a bit of a maze, even though its interface is more "modern"). If you do end up getting that, first thing to do is check the firmware version. Mine was 3.xxxx (whatever) and the most recent is 5.xxxx. With taxes it cost me about $61 at Canada Computers (you can get it online for $6-7 less, but getting it at the store meant getting it "now"). |
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Join Date: Feb 2012
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