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EdT · 2011-09-01, 08:24 PM

I just rescanned 35.1 from 4 different locations with a CM4228HDs and none of them can catch 35.1 !

dan_mtl · 2011-09-02, 09:22 AM

Can anyone confirm that WCFE 57.1 is back to full power? My signal is so weak it's hard to tell, but the warning about low power is gone from their site.

seaspray · 2011-09-02, 10:29 AM

For me 57.1 is back to normal - 82 over 100 - last week it was at 75/100 - DB 8 CM 7777

EdT · 2011-09-02, 02:29 PM

If you guys are having trouble getting CFCF-12DT after a rescan, I experienced this with many people yesterday that even though the signal from CFCF-12 is strong it has a tendency to be not picked up by a rescan and you may have to rescan it a 2nd or 3rd time before it gets picked up.

gmd · 2011-09-02, 02:31 PM

CHLF originates in Hawkesbury. Ottawa does not have a transmitter for TFO (ARGH!)

-gmd

Apple IIGS · 2011-09-02, 03:16 PM

Anyone else having intermittent trouble with CJNT 62.1 (Metro-14)? The signal is weak as of last night, so either it's breaking up or just not there at all. Then later in the day it can be stable...

At least it's a better situation than V and Tele-Quebec, I've about given up hope on those.

Gillez · 2011-09-02, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdT

If you guys are having trouble getting CFCF-12DT after a rescan, I experienced this with many people yesterday that even though the signal from CFCF-12 is strong it has a tendency to be not picked up by a rescan and you may have to rescan it a 2nd or 3rd time before it gets picked up.

Using an HTPC with Windows media center, I could never add CFTM or CTV by rescanning. I had to add them manually. Now they come in fine...

stampeder · 2011-09-02, 06:18 PM

Anyone having trouble with OTA tuning on WMC needs to see the important threads about it in the HTPC Forum:

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=31

ou en français ici: Windows Media Center et ATSC

northbear · 2011-09-03, 12:02 AM

at night, WVNY (22.1) off air, someone has idea?

upchuck247 · 2011-09-03, 01:58 PM

Maybe a cost saving measure.

danby · 2011-09-05, 03:30 AM

anyone know if CTV2 will be available OTA in montreal?

tvlurker · 2011-09-06, 10:46 AM

I have not seen any plans to make CTV2 available OTA anywhere A was not not already availalbe -- and since Calgary and Edmonton lost their OTA access to CTV2 with the digital transition, I don't imagine Montreal would be a priority.

For one thing, Bell would have to convince the other private broadcasters Global and Channel Zero (Metro14) not to complain about the additional competition, which is what historically kept A and City out of the Montreal market for years.

There is also the political issue of having more Anglophone stations than Francophone stations in Montreal -- right now we have 3 anglophone, 4 francophone, and 1 multilingual/anglo station that sell advertising. (I'm excluding CFTU aka Canal Savoir, since they don't sell ads.)

schoenbe · 2011-09-06, 12:39 PM

Quote:

right now we have 3 anglophone, 4 francophone

Metro 14 is really anglophone, so it's a tie at 4:4. It is a shame that half of the francophone stations don't even cover the entire area (as the anglophone stations do), with Télé-Québec and V not serving significant ports of Western Montreal. So on the one hand you have policies enforcing that there not be more English than French stations. On the other hand, you have French stations that don't serve the viewing area. It just doesn't add up ...

tvlurker · 2011-09-06, 12:56 PM

If you read further, you will see that I counted Metro14 as multilingual/anglo.

The 4/4 makes an even stronger argument that it will be very difficult for the CRTC to approve another anglo station. Even having CJOH-TV-8 Cornwall convert to digital, switch to CTV2 from CTV, and cover the west end of the island, would not fly -- in fact, Global had initally tried to have a retransmitter in Maxville back in the seventies, and then channel 11 in Cornwall later on, and these were denied as they would be receivable in Montreal.

Note that "receivable in Montreal" really means "eligible for prioirity carriage by Videotron and VDN", and not any concern for how well the OTA would atually work.

gmd · 2011-09-06, 02:18 PM

According to the CRTC, TFO [39 - Hawkesbury] is "receivable in Montreal", yet never got preferential treatment for carriage, for political reasons. It's all relative to who's analyzing the data.

But it does add a +1 to your list... (and TVO [48 - Hawkesbury] even things out)

-gmd

2011-09-01, 08:24 PM	#2566
EdT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Montreal, QC Posts: 301	I just rescanned 35.1 from 4 different locations with a CM4228HDs and none of them can catch 35.1 ! __________________ OTA CM4228HD CM3410 CM4040 Last edited by stampeder; 2011-09-02 at 03:01 AM.

2011-09-02, 02:29 PM	#2569
EdT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Montreal, QC Posts: 301	If you guys are having trouble getting CFCF-12DT after a rescan, I experienced this with many people yesterday that even though the signal from CFCF-12 is strong it has a tendency to be not picked up by a rescan and you may have to rescan it a 2nd or 3rd time before it gets picked up. __________________ OTA CM4228HD CM3410 CM4040

2011-09-02, 02:31 PM	#2570
gmd Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Gloucester, ON Posts: 786	CHLF originates in Hawkesbury. Ottawa does not have a transmitter for TFO (ARGH!) -gmd __________________ SC: 8-Feb-02>21-Jul-09 (TFO) \| EVu: 23-Jan to 03-Feb-07, back 20-Jun-09 Bell, French packages, pls! Long live OTA!

2011-09-05, 03:30 AM	#2576
danby Rookie Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 13	CTV2 anyone know if CTV2 will be available OTA in montreal?

2011-09-06, 02:18 PM	#2580
gmd Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Gloucester, ON Posts: 786	According to the CRTC, TFO [39 - Hawkesbury] is "receivable in Montreal", yet never got preferential treatment for carriage, for political reasons. It's all relative to who's analyzing the data. But it does add a +1 to your list... (and TVO [48 - Hawkesbury] even things out) -gmd __________________ SC: 8-Feb-02>21-Jul-09 (TFO) \| EVu: 23-Jan to 03-Feb-07, back 20-Jun-09 Bell, French packages, pls! Long live OTA!

2011-09-02, 09:22 AM	#2567
dan_mtl Rookie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hochelaga-Maisonneuve, Montreal, QC, CM-4228 Posts: 26	Can anyone confirm that WCFE 57.1 is back to full power? My signal is so weak it's hard to tell, but the warning about low power is gone from their site.

2011-09-02, 10:29 AM	#2568
seaspray Rookie Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: St Bruno Que Posts: 9	For me 57.1 is back to normal - 82 over 100 - last week it was at 75/100 - DB 8 CM 7777

2011-09-02, 03:16 PM	#2571
Apple IIGS Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NDG, Montreal Posts: 125	Anyone else having intermittent trouble with CJNT 62.1 (Metro-14)? The signal is weak as of last night, so either it's breaking up or just not there at all. Then later in the day it can be stable... At least it's a better situation than V and Tele-Quebec, I've about given up hope on those.

2011-09-02, 06:18 PM	#2573
stampeder OTA Forum Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North Delta, BC (96Av x 116St) Posts: 23,338	Anyone having trouble with OTA tuning on WMC needs to see the important threads about it in the HTPC Forum: http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=31 ou en français ici: Windows Media Center et ATSC

2011-09-03, 12:02 AM	#2574
northbear Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Pincourt, QC Posts: 114	at night, WVNY (22.1) off air, someone has idea?

2011-09-03, 01:58 PM	#2575
upchuck247 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Roxboro-91XG, YA1713, CM7777 and a rotor Posts: 40	Maybe a cost saving measure.

2011-09-06, 10:46 AM	#2577
tvlurker Veteran Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Craig Henry (Greenbank/Hunt Club), Nepean, ON Posts: 2,751	I have not seen any plans to make CTV2 available OTA anywhere A was not not already availalbe -- and since Calgary and Edmonton lost their OTA access to CTV2 with the digital transition, I don't imagine Montreal would be a priority. For one thing, Bell would have to convince the other private broadcasters Global and Channel Zero (Metro14) not to complain about the additional competition, which is what historically kept A and City out of the Montreal market for years. There is also the political issue of having more Anglophone stations than Francophone stations in Montreal -- right now we have 3 anglophone, 4 francophone, and 1 multilingual/anglo station that sell advertising. (I'm excluding CFTU aka Canal Savoir, since they don't sell ads.)

2011-09-06, 12:56 PM	#2579
tvlurker Veteran Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Craig Henry (Greenbank/Hunt Club), Nepean, ON Posts: 2,751	If you read further, you will see that I counted Metro14 as multilingual/anglo. The 4/4 makes an even stronger argument that it will be very difficult for the CRTC to approve another anglo station. Even having CJOH-TV-8 Cornwall convert to digital, switch to CTV2 from CTV, and cover the west end of the island, would not fly -- in fact, Global had initally tried to have a retransmitter in Maxville back in the seventies, and then channel 11 in Cornwall later on, and these were denied as they would be receivable in Montreal. Note that "receivable in Montreal" really means "eligible for prioirity carriage by Videotron and VDN", and not any concern for how well the OTA would atually work.

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