2010 SuperBowl Available with US Commercials? (legally) - Canadian TV, Computing and Home Theatre Forums

CaptainCanuck · 2010-01-04, 06:51 PM

Hello,

Does anyone know if any provider(Shaw, Bell, etc etc) will be showing the 2010 SuperBowl LIVE with US commercials intact? (i.e. the US Feed not 'overwritten' with Canadian commercials and other crap?)

Not that interested in the US commercials per say, just completely P.O. last year with the weird 'cut-ins' from commercials and the brain-dead 'additional commentary' from some idiot instead of the pros actually at the SuperBowl...

Cheers!

CaptainCanuck

PS
Yes, I am aware of sim-sub rules... just wondering if there is any workarounds due to all the HD, US, etc content now available??

Quote:

ADMIN NOTE

From last year

Broadcasting Decision CRTC 2008-358 - Regarding Simsub of Super Bowl

Nothing has changed

rgto · 2010-01-04, 07:15 PM

Shaw Direct will be sim-sub free (in HD) if you don't live in Toronto.

CaptainCanuck · 2010-01-04, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rgto

Shaw Direct will be sim-sub free (in HD) if you don't live in Toronto.

Really??

Any info on which station/channel that would be?? Any chance you have that from them directly in some sort of 'hard copy' or email? :-)

When I talked to them today via telephone they said "No, substitution would be in effect." !?!?

Cheers!!

PS: I am located in Vancouver so this sounds GREAT if true! :-D

DSgamby · 2010-01-04, 08:07 PM

Try the US Time Shift channel

scottyb123 · 2010-01-04, 08:12 PM

One other option that might be worth considering would be to put up an antenna to pick up the Super Bowl directly from the CBS affiliate in the nearest bordering US city. Since you live an Vancouver you may have luck getting the Super Bowl over the air from KIRO, the CBS affiliate in Seattle. The OTA Forum has tons of great information on this and helped me get started. I live in Toronto and OTA is the only legal way to watch the US super bowl commercials where I live.

753951 · 2010-01-04, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSgamby

Try the US Time Shift channel

You think that's going to help? It's live event so it begins at same time in all time zones. What are rules for simsub in that case?

CaptainCanuck · 2010-01-04, 08:18 PM

I am trying out some OTA antennae this weekend to see if I can get CBS from Seattle... *fingers crossed that big frickin fir tree is NOT in the way*

I was trying to confirm 100% that 'xyz provider' will be offering the SuperBowl 'sim-sub free' and then I would sign-up with them asap! Hence my request from -rgto- for a contact person, advertisement, email anything I can 'hang my hat on' for a sim-sub free SuperBowl.

Cheers!

CaptainCanuck · 2010-01-04, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 753951

You think that's going to help? It's live event so it begins at same time in all time zones. What are rules for simsub in that case?

Shaw Direct told me this would not work?

Did I get a 'tard' CS? Or will that work?

DSgamby · 2010-01-04, 08:21 PM

753951: Last year, on Shaw and the previous years, the Time Shift channels did not get simsubbed, just the SD channel.

CaptainCanuck · 2010-01-04, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSgamby

753951: Last year, on Shaw and the previous years, the Time Shift channels did not get simsubbed, just the SD channel.

Was this via Shaw or Shaw Direct? (I had called Shaw Direct when they told me no...)

Cheers!

DSgamby · 2010-01-04, 08:39 PM

on Shaw

CaptainCanuck · 2010-01-04, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSgamby

on Shaw

Any advice who I would talk to? (department, etc)

The CSA I just spoke with said no as well... thought they did sound rather... how shall I say this... dumb!?

Thanks!

JohnnyCanuck · 2010-01-04, 09:10 PM

DSGamby's right as to previous years, Shaw did not simsub the time-shifted channels.

CTV filed a complaint with the CRTC against Shaw. Shaw was let off the hook in terms of any penalty for previous "failures" to simsub the Super Bowl on the time shifted channels but was ordered to do so in the future. Shaw agreed to comply with the order.

In other words, BDU's in Canada have been ordered to simsub time shifted channels as well. CTV's grip on this thing is complete.

DSgamby · 2010-01-04, 09:13 PM

CaptainCanuck: I have no clue as all I did was switch to the Time Shifted Channel but as JohnnyCanuck said, it is no more.

rgto · 2010-01-04, 09:15 PM

CaptainCanuck, I don't have anything in hard copy that it will be sim-sub free. But in previous years, Shaw Direct has shown the Super Bowl without sim-subs. Shaw Direct has CTV HD from Toronto and so, only Toronto was forced to watch sim-sub commercials. I'm expecting this year will be the same - fingers crossed.

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2010-01-04, 07:15 PM	#2
rgto Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ottawa, ON; Shaw Direct HDPVR630/DSR505; Samsung HLT5687; Harmon/Kardon AVR247; Harmon/Kardon HKTS11 Posts: 440	Shaw Direct will be sim-sub free (in HD) if you don't live in Toronto.

2010-01-04, 08:07 PM	#4
DSgamby Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario Posts: 3,896	Try the US Time Shift channel

2010-01-04, 08:12 PM	#5
scottyb123 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Toronto, ON Rogers/OTA Posts: 135	One other option that might be worth considering would be to put up an antenna to pick up the Super Bowl directly from the CBS affiliate in the nearest bordering US city. Since you live an Vancouver you may have luck getting the Super Bowl over the air from KIRO, the CBS affiliate in Seattle. The OTA Forum has tons of great information on this and helped me get started. I live in Toronto and OTA is the only legal way to watch the US super bowl commercials where I live.

2010-01-04, 08:18 PM	#7
CaptainCanuck Rookie Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 8	I am trying out some OTA antennae this weekend to see if I can get CBS from Seattle... fingers crossed that big frickin fir tree is NOT in the way I was trying to confirm 100% that 'xyz provider' will be offering the SuperBowl 'sim-sub free' and then I would sign-up with them asap! Hence my request from -rgto- for a contact person, advertisement, email anything I can 'hang my hat on' for a sim-sub free SuperBowl. Cheers!

2010-01-04, 08:21 PM	#9
DSgamby Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario Posts: 3,896	753951: Last year, on Shaw and the previous years, the Time Shift channels did not get simsubbed, just the SD channel.

2010-01-04, 08:39 PM	#11
DSgamby Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario Posts: 3,896	on Shaw

2010-01-04, 09:10 PM	#13
JohnnyCanuck Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 4,645	DSGamby's right as to previous years, Shaw did not simsub the time-shifted channels. CTV filed a complaint with the CRTC against Shaw. Shaw was let off the hook in terms of any penalty for previous "failures" to simsub the Super Bowl on the time shifted channels but was ordered to do so in the future. Shaw agreed to comply with the order. In other words, BDU's in Canada have been ordered to simsub time shifted channels as well. CTV's grip on this thing is complete.

2010-01-04, 09:13 PM	#14
DSgamby Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario Posts: 3,896	CaptainCanuck: I have no clue as all I did was switch to the Time Shifted Channel but as JohnnyCanuck said, it is no more.

2010-01-04, 09:15 PM	#15
rgto Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ottawa, ON; Shaw Direct HDPVR630/DSR505; Samsung HLT5687; Harmon/Kardon AVR247; Harmon/Kardon HKTS11 Posts: 440	CaptainCanuck, I don't have anything in hard copy that it will be sim-sub free. But in previous years, Shaw Direct has shown the Super Bowl without sim-subs. Shaw Direct has CTV HD from Toronto and so, only Toronto was forced to watch sim-sub commercials. I'm expecting this year will be the same - fingers crossed.