Delhi OTA Gear & Antennas

[dsspredator]

I am thinking buying a "Super Flying Arrow" (SFA-1483S) from Wade Antenna and I would like to know if anyone is currently using this antenna.

Does the quality compare to Winegard or CM?

Thanks

[stampeder]

Here's the Wade UHF antenna lineup with that one up top:

http://www.wade-antenna.com/UHFantennas.htm

I don't have any experience with that model.

[globaldiv]

Does anyone have any experience with the Wade-Delhi 476 Preamplifier? If so, does it perform well on UHF?

I checked the Wade website and its noise figures (7.0 dB on UHF) are higher than the CM and Winegard preamps. Does such a high noise figure make this preamp useless for UHF?

I live in Oakville (3rd Line and Upper Middle) and I want to install my new CM 4221 (bought it from www.sensuz.com) in my attic. I have approximately 100' of cable running from the top floor of my house to the basement, so I think a preamp is necessary for my situation.

I tested the 4221 from a window on my 2nd floor and, sure enough, the signal was pretty weak by the time it reached the SIR-T451 on the 1st floor. I then tested the antenna from the same window with a short cable run to a nearby analog TV and the results were fantastic (WB 49 analog came in nearly perfect).

The only reason that I am interested in the Wade-Delhi and not the other brands is that I know Nutech in Hamilton carries the Wade-Delhi.

If anyone knows of any local stores that have a good preamp in stock please let me know. I've made some calls and so far no luck, other than Nutech of course.

Thanks

Todd

[intrac]

The noise figure is too high. Look for something around 2 dB or less.

The CM or Winegards are in this range.

I assume you are using RG6 cable.

By the way, I got my CM4228 and amp here:

RICH WERTMAN
R.W. ANTENNA SERVICE INC
6150 CROSBY RD
LOCKPORT,N.Y. 14094
716-434-9216
rwantsat@verizon.net

[globaldiv]

Yes I am using RG6. I will contact RW Antenna about a good quality preamp. Thanks Intrac.

[just_syl]

I was going through the Wade website and I was wondering about the size of the 4bt-1483...

http://www.wade-antenna.com/Wade/UHF.htm

[stampeder]

The Wade-Delhi 4BT-1483 is roughly 36 inches tall and 20 inches wide.

[WatchmaN]

You could find it on www.wade-antenna.com But there's no gain chart...(Nothing usefull). Anyway I would not recommand it unless your in my situation.(Attic installation and I need Analog Low VHF for the other TV's). I would much more recommand a channel cut to VHF 13, 11 elements (There's also a 5 elements if space is a concern) you can have it at raybel they cost less than 100$ (If i remember well it's 65$ and 85$)

I still can't find it on the site (Delhi ZIP-8), you say you don't recommend it but you get 70% on ABC with it and i get 10%(so nothing) on ABC and we both live in St-Eustache. I'm on léveillé boul near the wallmart, so if you get good result i think would go for the same thing as you.

[Kro]

Originally Posted by WatchmaN

I still can't find it on the site (Delhi ZIP-8), you say you don't recommend it but you get 70% on ABC with it and i get 10%(so nothing) on ABC and we both live in St-Eustache. I'm on léveillé boul near the wallmart, so if you get good result i think would go for the same thing as you.

Here's the link http://www.wade-antenna.com/Wade/VIP...20Antennas.pdf
I bought it at MontCalme, he made a price (The puro sticker on the box was dated 2002!. By the way i'm near you i'm on Clément near the school au coeur du boisé.

10% on ABC mean that most likely you don't have a VHF antenna. If I would have had the choice (Not having old analog tv I would have bought a channel 13 cut antenna. By the way the channel 13 antenna will do the job if and when TVA is on 10.

[WatchmaN]

Originally Posted by Kro

You could find it on www.wade-antenna.com But there's no gain chart...(Nothing usefull). Anyway I would not recommand it unless your in my situation.(Attic installation and I need Analog Low VHF for the other TV's). I would much more recommand a channel cut to VHF 13, 11 elements (There's also a 5 elements if space is a concern) you can have it at raybel they cost less than 100$ (If i remember well it's 65$ and 85$)



What do you mean? The CM-4221 (UHF) and the Delhi (VHF) are join together using a UFH/VHF combiner. The loss is impercetible for UHF (I did not try the VHF alone).

Ok Kro I still can't find the Delhi zip-8 on the site, so if i understand you right it's that antenna(delhi) that gives you the ABC channel? You say that you don't recommand it but you get a 70%+ reception result and I get nothing so i would rather go for something that i know that works for a St-Eustache citizen like me.

[montrealmountain]

WatchmaN - zip-8 info:
http://www.wade-antenna.com/Wade/VIP...20Antennas.pdf

[keeneye]

Hello,

From the couple of actual pictures I've seen of the 4BT-1483 in various threads, it seems to be fairly similar to the CM 4221.

Are there any gain charts available for this antenna? I'm also interested in comparing how directionnal it is compared to the CM 4221, as I'm planning for a rotor-less installation.

Has anyone been able to compare actual results by switching between these two antennas?

Thanks!

[stampeder]

In these HDTV Primer charts of raw and net gain you'll see items B (CM4221) and F (Winegard PR-4400). These are both 4-bay bowtie reflector UHF antennas. Unfortunately the Wade-Delhi competitor was not tested. You'll find that the Wade-Delhi 4BT-1483 (and under its many rebrand names) is very comparable in reception, beam pattern, and size to the CM4221. Between the three antennas I don't find that there's much difference in performance, but the CM tends to lead across almost the whole UHF spectrum by a small amount. Item R is the Terrestrial Digital DB-4, another 4-bay bowtie reflector, and you can see from its poor lower channel performance why I never recommend it.

You can be very content and satisfied with a Wade Delhi 4BT-1483.

[stampeder]

Delhi OTA Antennas are made in Brantford, ON by Wade. They are top quality.

[poncho@home]

So does anyone have any tips on aiming the 5 element antenna for channel 13?

I imagine the Wade Yagi 5y13s is directional? What is the orienation on these antennas? What's front and what's back? Also I installed it upside down, I assume that has no impact? But can someone confirm this.

It is currently installed on a seperate mast from the 4221, but very close by. I will move it 4-5 feet away tonight and try again.