Nimiq 6 (New Bell Satellite) Discussion - Canadian TV, Computing and Home Theatre Forums

frenchhomer · 2012-03-19, 03:57 PM

On March 15th Nimiq 6 arrived at Baikonur in preparation for a May 17th launch on the Proton-M/Briz-M vehicle. Nimiq 6 will be placed at 91.1.

primehifi · 2012-03-19, 04:39 PM

I forget the upshot of this sat but I seem to recall reading that it provides no additional bandwidth, so no real gains from this sat, besides replacing the current bird there?

Would love to be corrected on this.

Pinza · 2012-03-19, 05:39 PM

You are correct, nothing new, just more powerful than the 2 birds at 91 degrees right now.

The footprint will also change and cut off most of the US.

Blackloz · 2012-03-20, 08:15 AM

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The footprint will also change and cut off most of the US.

Thankfully I will still be good to go with the standard Dish 500.

MCIBUS · 2012-03-20, 08:58 AM

Looking at that map, why does the singal reach so far into the Atlantic Ocean?

Also with a stronger singa;l does this mean less chance of rain fade?

nic78 · 2012-03-20, 09:31 AM

It will help to some degree but it would be impossible to totally eliminate rain fade. The big cause of rain fade I noticed when I had Bell TV was not the weather locally where I lived but a down pour at the uplink center in Toronto. Bell should have a second uplink center else where in the country.

jdevlin · 2012-03-19, 05:43 PM

Satellite Name: Nimiq 6
Status: planned
Position: 91° W (91° W)
Norad:
Cospar number:
Operator: Telesat Canada Ltd.
Launch date: 30-Jun-2012 (Estimated)
Launch site: Baikonur Cosmodrome
Launch vehicle: Proton M
Launch mass (kg): 4745
Dry mass (kg):
Manufacturer: Space Systems Loral (SSL)
Model (bus): LS-1300
Orbit: GEO
Expected lifetime: 15 yrs.
Call sign:
Beacon(s):
Details:32 high powered Ku-band transponders. Bell TV has agreed to fully lease this new satellite for its lifetime to serve the fast-growing number of Bell TV subscribers across Canada.
Beams:Ku-band Canada beam (predicted)

Nimiq6 from Telsat.

http://www.telesat.com/satellite-fleet/nimiq/nimiq-6

Pinza · 2012-03-19, 05:47 PM

See that is what I just said. Nothing new.

primehifi · 2012-03-19, 06:08 PM

Pretty poor planning and spending of money on their part, no?

ChannelMaster · 2012-03-19, 07:00 PM

Hummm. Is it true that Bell enjoys a "fast growing number of subscribers" over satellite?

Steve Gyurki · 2012-03-30, 02:17 PM

Just got back from Jamaica on a WestJet flight and we had about 30 live Bell tv channels in the seatback tv's. Most channels cut out just before Cuba and I assume that is the limit of the current N91 footprint. But when the new one goes up, there will be no reception south of Ohio, from what I have seen. So what do you think they will do? Directv was in our hotel room on the island (snicker).

Steve

QCK · 2012-03-30, 02:32 PM

They won't do anything, when the plane is in the new footprint area you will have TV, and when it is out of the area you will not just like you experienced going to Cuba. Only now the loss of TV will be a earlier in your flight if you are going south.

james039 · 2012-04-02, 12:24 PM

I hope they broadcast the launch live. They don't have channel 198 anymore so I guess they would have to use 272/273?

sodly · 2012-06-08, 09:50 PM

Have read & got answers

rogue17 · 2012-06-09, 11:16 AM

What kind of rain or snow are we talking about for rain/snow fade.

In the last 2 weeks I have lost tv for a total of 50 minutes.
The first time it was 40 minutes and second time(yesterday) it was 10minutes. I am not surprised as it was thunderstorms with strong gusting winds and heavy downpour. You can't beat mother nature.LOL.

I have noticed that the rain/snow fade on a 51cm dish is when there is a heavy downpour or snowing big flakes heavily.I don't think this new 91 will be able to prevent that but hope it can reduce downtime.

Not complaining as I have been with Bell for sometime and absolutely hate cable.Hehehehe

2012-03-19, 03:57 PM	#1
frenchhomer Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 111	Nimiq 6 (New Bell Satellite) Discussion On March 15th Nimiq 6 arrived at Baikonur in preparation for a May 17th launch on the Proton-M/Briz-M vehicle. Nimiq 6 will be placed at 91.1.

2012-03-19, 07:00 PM	#10
ChannelMaster Join Date: May 2011 Location: Longueuil Posts: 421	Hummm. Is it true that Bell enjoys a "fast growing number of subscribers" over satellite? __________________ Going digital with a pair of CM4228a pointing due south fed into a Winegard SD-3700 antenna coupler @220 ft

2012-03-30, 02:17 PM	#11
Steve Gyurki Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Woodstock, Ontario Posts: 80	What is WestJet going to do with new N91? Just got back from Jamaica on a WestJet flight and we had about 30 live Bell tv channels in the seatback tv's. Most channels cut out just before Cuba and I assume that is the limit of the current N91 footprint. But when the new one goes up, there will be no reception south of Ohio, from what I have seen. So what do you think they will do? Directv was in our hotel room on the island (snicker). Steve

2012-06-08, 09:50 PM	#14
sodly Rookie Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 23	Nimiq 6 Have read & got answers Last edited by sodly; 2012-06-08 at 11:14 PM. Reason: Have read & got answers

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2012-03-19, 04:39 PM	#2
primehifi Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 141	I forget the upshot of this sat but I seem to recall reading that it provides no additional bandwidth, so no real gains from this sat, besides replacing the current bird there? Would love to be corrected on this.

2012-03-19, 05:39 PM	#3
Pinza Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: GTA Posts: 8,582	You are correct, nothing new, just more powerful than the 2 birds at 91 degrees right now. The footprint will also change and cut off most of the US.

2012-03-20, 08:58 AM	#5
MCIBUS Veteran Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ottawa Posts: 2,093	Looking at that map, why does the singal reach so far into the Atlantic Ocean? Also with a stronger singa;l does this mean less chance of rain fade?

2012-03-20, 09:31 AM	#6
nic78 Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 223	It will help to some degree but it would be impossible to totally eliminate rain fade. The big cause of rain fade I noticed when I had Bell TV was not the weather locally where I lived but a down pour at the uplink center in Toronto. Bell should have a second uplink center else where in the country.

2012-03-19, 05:43 PM	#7
jdevlin Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Wainfleet Posts: 470	Satellite Name: Nimiq 6 Status: planned Position: 91° W (91° W) Norad: Cospar number: Operator: Telesat Canada Ltd. Launch date: 30-Jun-2012 (Estimated) Launch site: Baikonur Cosmodrome Launch vehicle: Proton M Launch mass (kg): 4745 Dry mass (kg): Manufacturer: Space Systems Loral (SSL) Model (bus): LS-1300 Orbit: GEO Expected lifetime: 15 yrs. Call sign: Beacon(s): Details:32 high powered Ku-band transponders. Bell TV has agreed to fully lease this new satellite for its lifetime to serve the fast-growing number of Bell TV subscribers across Canada. Beams:Ku-band Canada beam (predicted) Nimiq6 from Telsat. http://www.telesat.com/satellite-fleet/nimiq/nimiq-6

2012-03-19, 05:47 PM	#8
Pinza Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: GTA Posts: 8,582	See that is what I just said. Nothing new.

2012-03-19, 06:08 PM	#9
primehifi Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 141	Pretty poor planning and spending of money on their part, no?

2012-03-30, 02:32 PM	#12
QCK Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,139	They won't do anything, when the plane is in the new footprint area you will have TV, and when it is out of the area you will not just like you experienced going to Cuba. Only now the loss of TV will be a earlier in your flight if you are going south.

2012-04-02, 12:24 PM	#13
james039 Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 338	I hope they broadcast the launch live. They don't have channel 198 anymore so I guess they would have to use 272/273?

2012-06-09, 11:16 AM	#15
rogue17 Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 555	What kind of rain or snow are we talking about for rain/snow fade. In the last 2 weeks I have lost tv for a total of 50 minutes. The first time it was 40 minutes and second time(yesterday) it was 10minutes. I am not surprised as it was thunderstorms with strong gusting winds and heavy downpour. You can't beat mother nature.LOL. I have noticed that the rain/snow fade on a 51cm dish is when there is a heavy downpour or snowing big flakes heavily.I don't think this new 91 will be able to prevent that but hope it can reduce downtime. Not complaining as I have been with Bell for sometime and absolutely hate cable.Hehehehe