Official: 6120 Thread - Canadian TV, Computing and Home Theatre Forums

hugh · 2004-06-28, 12:31 PM

This thread is for 6120 owners only to post observations, questions or notes about the Bell 6120.

The 6120 is the newest HDTV receiver which replaces the ExpressVu 6000.

For more information about this new receiver please read this thread.

This thread is for owners only who'd like to discuss issues with their new receiver or have practical questions about it. Posts asking about where to get it or what's it like will be deleted in order to keep the thread relevant to owners.

BLT · 2004-06-30, 08:13 PM

Well I hooked up the new 6120 today and on first observations I,m pleasantly surprised. I have it hooked thru DVI to my Toshiba 57HDX82,and audio is routed thru an Anthem AVM20 pre/pro.

My television has been ISF calibrated (which greatly helps btw.) and first I tuned to the HD channels. The picture to me anyways seemed overall better than previously with component not eyepopping differences but subtle.

Regular digital stations on my set anyways were noticibly clearer.
Than I scanned for my ota stuff and picked up all my Buffalo stations plus Toronto 1 from Hamilton transmitter. Heres where I noticed the biggest difference. Most of these stations almost look Hidef,the only difference was the sidebars.

I was very pleased in that respect,but as of this post none of the stations show any programme info. The guide is obviously better than the 6000 was and you dont lose audio and video in guide mode.

It was very simple to setup, and easy to move around in. All in all I,m very happy with the 6120 so far. The DVI cable I use is a Belkin 10' dual link cable and is working fine so far,purchased at Future Shop.

Well gotta go and play around some more

Cheers:

BLT

HydrogenCyanide · 2004-06-30, 09:15 PM

Is the 6100 you just recieved cardless?

Elvisator · 2004-06-30, 11:03 PM

Yes the new models are now card less and come with intergrated chips to replace them.

plutoz · 2004-07-02, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elvisator

Yes the new models are now card less and come with intergrated chips to replace them.

Does it still have the slot for a card behind a door on the front panel?

xole · 2005-10-19, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plutoz

Does it still have the slot for a card behind a door on the front panel?

Yes, Model 6120 does have it behind the flip down panel on left front of the receiver

brintdw · 2004-07-03, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLT

Well I hooked up the new 6120 today ... I scanned for my ota stuff and picked up all my Buffalo stations plus Toronto 1 from Hamilton transmitter. Heres where I noticed the biggest difference. Most of these stations almost look Hidef,the only difference was the sidebars.

BLT

Can you ellaborate further on your OTA HD reception please. You say that most of the stations look almost HiDef - how are the hidef ones?

Are you still not seeing any of their programming info in the guide?

BLT · 2004-07-03, 08:52 PM

All the Buffalo stations are hd with UPN and WNLO supposedly going later
this year. Yes the hd stations look very good.

There is no info in the guide yet for locals. It is supposed to be rectified in the next firmware upgrade,but do not know a date as of yet.

brintdw · 2004-07-03, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLT

All the Buffalo stations are hd with UPN and WNLO supposedly going later this year. Yes the hd stations look very good.

There is no info in the guide yet for locals. It is supposed to be rectified in the next firmware upgrade,but do not know a date as of yet.

As a certain MR Burns might say. "Excellenttttt"

Elvisator · 2004-07-04, 06:21 PM

"Does it still have the slot for a card behind a door on the front panel?"

No slot anywhere on the unit for a Data Card.

SatGuru · 2004-07-04, 10:20 PM

All ExpressVU and Dishnetwork receivers are now cardless for the exception of the 921/9100 HD DVR.

They are now utilizing an "embedded smartcard" technology where the smartcard info is stored on a chip on the mainboard.

SatGuru

Ronsung1 · 2006-08-07, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SatGuru

All ExpressVU and Dishnetwork receivers are now cardless for the exception of the 921/9100 HD DVR.

They are now utilizing an "embedded smartcard" technology where the smartcard info is stored on a chip on the mainboard.

SatGuru

SatGuru:

I presently use a 6120 BEV for Hi Def. It does not have a smart card.
but what happens when my remote changes channels on its own , without intervention? This has happened a number of times. Can I reboot since this receiver is cardless? Are you aware of what might cause this receiver to develop a mind of its own

Ronsung1
Samsung HLR 5064

I_Want_My_HDTV · 2006-08-08, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronsung1

what happens when my remote changes channels on its own

You may be getting interference from a nearby RF remote (as explained in the manual.) Change the address of the remote (as explained in the manual.)

Jobbie · 2006-08-24, 02:30 PM

Guys, I've officially popped my HD cherry with the installation of my 6120 the other day. Looks genius on my Sammy HLP56 DLP.

I've read through the 28 pages on this thread, but still need some help with something; screen sizing. This is driving me nuts.

I understand the HD vs SD format features etc.. but why is it that for some channels (eg. TSN-850) when I format HD it never goes to full screen. The stretch only stetches to the right, zoom as well. I've noticed this for a few channels but not all. Trying playing with the HD setting (480, 720 etc..) but found it did little to nothing. Does it depend on the feed from the broadcaster? I'm running DVI to DVI btw.

Also, does anyone know why in the hell some of the feeds are still coming in at 4:3?? I was under the impression that everyone was/is moving to 16:9.

Much appreciated guys.

Interceptor · 2006-08-25, 04:39 AM

Set your receiver to 16x9 and leave it. Pick either 720p or 1080i, both are HD [480p is not] and use whatever looks best to you.

TSN and other HD stations are still short of having all programing in 16x9 HD. In these cases either leave the picture at 4x3 or use stretch or zoom modes. I've never seen these stretch only to the right. You may have a defective 6100.

2004-06-28, 12:31 PM	#1
hugh Member #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 47,492	Official: 6120 Thread This thread is for 6120 owners only to post observations, questions or notes about the Bell 6120. The 6120 is the newest HDTV receiver which replaces the ExpressVu 6000. For more information about this new receiver please read this thread. This thread is for owners only who'd like to discuss issues with their new receiver or have practical questions about it. Posts asking about where to get it or what's it like will be deleted in order to keep the thread relevant to owners.

2004-06-30, 08:13 PM	#2
BLT Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Ancaster Posts: 143	My new 6120 Well I hooked up the new 6120 today and on first observations I,m pleasantly surprised. I have it hooked thru DVI to my Toshiba 57HDX82,and audio is routed thru an Anthem AVM20 pre/pro. My television has been ISF calibrated (which greatly helps btw.) and first I tuned to the HD channels. The picture to me anyways seemed overall better than previously with component not eyepopping differences but subtle. Regular digital stations on my set anyways were noticibly clearer. Than I scanned for my ota stuff and picked up all my Buffalo stations plus Toronto 1 from Hamilton transmitter. Heres where I noticed the biggest difference. Most of these stations almost look Hidef,the only difference was the sidebars. I was very pleased in that respect,but as of this post none of the stations show any programme info. The guide is obviously better than the 6000 was and you dont lose audio and video in guide mode. It was very simple to setup, and easy to move around in. All in all I,m very happy with the 6120 so far. The DVI cable I use is a Belkin 10' dual link cable and is working fine so far,purchased at Future Shop. Well gotta go and play around some more Cheers: BLT

2004-06-30, 11:03 PM	#4
Elvisator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: BC Posts: 146	Yes the new models are now card less and come with intergrated chips to replace them. __________________ My Stuff Toshiba/Sony/Klipsch/Cerwin Vega/Xbox/Bell 6100

2004-07-04, 06:21 PM	#10
Elvisator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: BC Posts: 146	"Does it still have the slot for a card behind a door on the front panel?" No slot anywhere on the unit for a Data Card. __________________ My Stuff Toshiba/Sony/Klipsch/Cerwin Vega/Xbox/Bell 6100

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2004-06-30, 09:15 PM	#3
HydrogenCyanide Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Welland, ON Posts: 270	Is the 6100 you just recieved cardless?

2004-07-03, 08:52 PM	#8
BLT Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Ancaster Posts: 143	All the Buffalo stations are hd with UPN and WNLO supposedly going later this year. Yes the hd stations look very good. There is no info in the guide yet for locals. It is supposed to be rectified in the next firmware upgrade,but do not know a date as of yet.

2004-07-04, 10:20 PM	#11
SatGuru Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Welland, Ontario Posts: 130	All ExpressVU and Dishnetwork receivers are now cardless for the exception of the 921/9100 HD DVR. They are now utilizing an "embedded smartcard" technology where the smartcard info is stored on a chip on the mainboard. SatGuru

2006-08-24, 02:30 PM	#14
Jobbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 7	Guys, I've officially popped my HD cherry with the installation of my 6120 the other day. Looks genius on my Sammy HLP56 DLP. I've read through the 28 pages on this thread, but still need some help with something; screen sizing. This is driving me nuts. I understand the HD vs SD format features etc.. but why is it that for some channels (eg. TSN-850) when I format HD it never goes to full screen. The stretch only stetches to the right, zoom as well. I've noticed this for a few channels but not all. Trying playing with the HD setting (480, 720 etc..) but found it did little to nothing. Does it depend on the feed from the broadcaster? I'm running DVI to DVI btw. Also, does anyone know why in the hell some of the feeds are still coming in at 4:3?? I was under the impression that everyone was/is moving to 16:9. Much appreciated guys.

2006-08-25, 04:39 AM	#15
Interceptor Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sunshine Coast Posts: 593	Set your receiver to 16x9 and leave it. Pick either 720p or 1080i, both are HD [480p is not] and use whatever looks best to you. TSN and other HD stations are still short of having all programing in 16x9 HD. In these cases either leave the picture at 4x3 or use stretch or zoom modes. I've never seen these stretch only to the right. You may have a defective 6100.