WBBZ Buffalo MeTV channel 7 Status

[majortom]

Just noticed WNGS-DT came on air today, on VHF CH 7.
So far it has three 480i channels, 67.1 and 67.2 are Daystar,
and 67.3 is colorbars with a test tone up.

Edit:
I'm in the intended coverage area, southtowns of Buffalo.
88% Quality, 24 dB C/N in TsReader

Looks like they met that one.

Under the sale agreement, Daystar must now get the station back on the air by June 12, because the FCC won’t allow a station to be “dark” for more than a year or it can lose its license.

[Jase88]

Hmmm. I can't grab channel 7 here in Kitchener--my C5 must not have enough gain. Or is the station up and down? What does it's strength look like?

[mrpeter105]

Originally Posted by majortom

Just noticed WNGS-DT came on air today, on VHF CH 7.
So far it has three 480i channels, 67.1 and 67.2 are Daystar,
and 67.3 is colorbars with a test tone up.

Looks like they met that one.

Hi:

Good catch! Just curious, where are you located? I tried with my mini-state and saw just a blip and it was gone.

P.S. Nothing on my attic SBGH gen1 either.

P.S.2 When did you notice it?

P.S.3 I just had a blip on attic sgbh, then gone.

P.S.4 just saw another one on sbgh. It just comes then goes.

P.S.5 a couple of blips on mini-state just now. About a couple of minutes between them.

P.S.6 another on mini-state. That one stayed for a couple of secs, then gone. I know it's just stray rf but I can't resist. Another blip for 4 secs. Anybody else?

[Jase88]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the SBGH and Mini-states aren't designed for longer-range VHF, right?

Still nothing for me. And conditions from Buffalo are great right now (on UHF)....

[thenewdc]

What do you mean exactly by blip? A few seconds?. Also did it map?

[Jase88]

It could be they're doing some low power testing of the transmitter....
Being so close, it would be easily picked up by majortom.

I've got a clean VHF band right now, very good conditions on all Buffalo area UHF stations (49.1 & 51.1 are a little weak, but present). So it must be low power or a contour that's not favourable in my direction or both.

[mrpeter105]

Originally Posted by Jase88

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the SBGH and Mini-states aren't designed for longer-range VHF, right?

Still nothing for me. And conditions from Buffalo are great right now (on UHF)....

mini-state is vhf-uhf. Not great but I used to get wkbw-7 analog semi-decent, watchable in the old days.

SBGH gen1 is supposed to be uhf only. But actually works ok on vhf if it's strong enough.

What's happening is that atmospherics are such that i'm getting stray rf energy for just long enough to give me a blip on the meter. Nothing steady though.

P.S.1 no psip map. You would need a steady signal for that. What you should do is just keep the meter up and usually within say 10 minutes you'll see the a quick blip of from 1 to a fews seconds then gone.

[Jase88]

Your tuner can detect signal, but not enough to map the channels, correct?

[mrpeter105]

Originally Posted by Jase88

Your tuner can detect signal, but not enough to map the channels, correct?

correct. But it's not steady. Like right now i'm at zero signal. waiting for the next blip. try it.

P.S. maybe if they're doing low power for now they'll up it. Just had a 6 second blip. As it becomes dark I might be lucky enough to see something steady. Hopefully.

[thenewdc]

WNGS is beaming in this morning in Stouffville. I guess its just tropo activity.

[x4mer]

Originally Posted by thenewdc

WNGS is beaming in this morning in Stouffville. I guess its just tropo activity.

My VHF reception is on the fritz, but from what I have seen, Global CH7 analogue comes in up here. I'm surprised you got it thenewdc.

If WNGS is already near (at?) full power, I would think WNGS is going to be a problem for many across the top of the city, with an infringing analogue already on CH7.

[ontherooftop]

I have never even seen a blip, how strong of a VHF
antenna would you need to get that one?

[little-infinity]

No VHF antenna no matter it's gain or size will pick up signal that isn't there.

WNGS isn't coming here for two reasons:
a.) They are literally shooting out nothing from their transmitter. They are running the Daystar (religous) feed at a paltry 2.something kW right now at a very low height. I hear even some peeps in Buffalo have issues.
b.) Aside from tropo events, don't expect to see anything from this station until they go full-power.
c.) The antenna location and height is not final.

So until we get these things cleared up, I don't even see a point of having WNGS as an option :P

[thenewdc]

How do you know they are not at Full power. They are allowed 26 Kw from their current location at the old WNGS tower? I also haven't seen any application to move from their present location, according to the FCC website?

[ontherooftop]

OK so is this channel mostly just religion
stuff because we already got 36-1 and 26-1,-2
It's useless to me then if that's the only content.