Post-Transitional Digital OTA Channels In Canada

[Marbles_00]

Yes City will be coming down to 51 at an output power of 23kW.

CFTO, your not going to like, it will be moving back to VHF-HI 9 at a dismal 2.4kW. Some say it may work, other say there will be issues. Time will tell.

CHCH is also moving back to VHF-HI 11 after the transition and will be broadcasting at around 6.1kW.

OMNI 1 will be moving down to it's old analog channel (47) with a power boost from 15kW up to 99kW.

Global will be moving from its very high UHF to 41, and its power level will go from a current 3kW to 100kW.

CBC will get a power boost from 38kw to 100kW.

SunTV will move from 66 to 40 and get a power boost from 2.81kW current to 107kW.

SunTV from Hamilton will get a power boost from 8.2kW to a staggering 493kW.

You might be better off with getting CKCO on 13 (est. 12kW) post transition than CFTO. We will have to wait and see.

OH and I forgot, TVO is supposed to go to it analog channel 19 at a power rating of 106kW.

[goforit]

Can someone lead me to the channel allotment for TO/HAM post August 2011?

[ota_canuck]

This is the allotment plan Dec 20 2008. I don't believe there have been any update since then.

http://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/smt-gst.nsf/vwapj/DTV_PLAN_Dec08-e.pdf/$file/DTV_PLAN_Dec08-e.pdf

Hmm! won't post as a link, so you'll have to copy it and then paste it into your browser search bar.

[tvlurker]

From http://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/smt-gst...AN_Dec08-e.pdf pages 43 and 44

Here are the Toronto and Hamilton allocations. The bold 1950 
for Channel 8 is the ID of the required directional antenna pattern should
anyone wish to use that channel.


DTV NTSC T-DTV PR CITY_VILLE CALL_IND LAT LONG EHAAT_HEASM ERP_PAR ANT
11  11   18   ON Hamilton CHCH-TV   431227 794628 358.00 6100
15  45   15   ON Hamilton CKXT-TV-1 431227 794628 338.00 493000
36  36   35   ON Hamilton CITS-TV   431227 794628 338.20 493000
...
5             ON Toronto            433833 792315 463.30 740
8             ON Toronto            433833 792315 463.30 3000 1950
9    9   40   ON Toronto CFTO-TV    433833 792315 467.00 2400
19  19   51   ON Toronto CICA-TV    433833 792315 491.00 106500
20   5   20   ON Toronto CBLT       433833 792315 499.80 99600
21            ON Toronto            433856 792255 303.70 9000
25  25   24   ON Toronto CBLFT      433833 792315 499.80 99000
30            ON Toronto            433856 792255 303.70 5000
40  52   66   ON Toronto CKXT-TV    433833 792315 467.00 107000
41  41   65   ON Toronto CIII-TV-41 433833 792315 501.40 100000
44  69   44   ON Toronto CJMT-TV    433856 792255 303.70 1000000
47  47   64   ON Toronto CFMT-TV    433833 792315 501.40 99000
51  57   53   ON Toronto CITY-TV    433833 792315 463.30 23000

Bear in mind that nothing is carved in stone until the stations involved actually apply to build their post-transitional facility.

The only stations that are scheduled to stay on their current digital channel will be CBLT, OMNI2, and the SunTV repeater in Hamilton.

[ota_canuck]

tvlurker,.. Nice allotment breakdown.

OK,.. confusion sets in. But, then again, at my age that happens quite often
__________________________________________
Just to verify what I see in the list:

I thought Toronto was to be CBLT 5.1psip [20.1RF] post transition. Could the post DTV allotment be a typo or do they really lose their current 5.1psip slot?

And RF 5, 8, 21, 30 are pending applications ?

And RF 8 will be limited contour [directional] ?

And RF 18, 35, 24 will be open for bids ?

Am I reading this correctly?

[little-infinity]

VHF-LO?

Seriously?

[tvlurker]

Originally Posted by ota_canuck

tvlurker,.. Nice allotment breakdown.

OK,.. confusion sets in. But, then again, at my age that happens quite often
__________________________________________
Just to verify what I see in the list:

I thought Toronto was to be CBLT 5.1psip [20.1RF] post transition. Could the post DTV allotment be a typo or do they really lose their current 5.1psip slot?

CBC is free to keep 5.1. Oops, you're right, in the original posting I said that only SunTV Hamilton and OMNI2 were staying on their transitional channels. (I'll fix that.) CBLT is staying, too. CBC stays on 20, and probably will continue to identify itself as 5.1 in PSIP.

And RF 5, 8, 21, 30 are pending applications ?

No, they are just allocations available for any new applicants.

And RF 8 will be limited contour [directional] ?

Yes, but my reading of the pattern is that it is probably protecting adjacent channel 7 in Watertown, with the deepest null at 103 degrees. If it was protecting Global on DTV 8 in Bancroft, the deepest null would be at 45 degrees.

And RF 18, 35, 24 will be open for bids ?

I'd have to study the rest of the plan for Southern Ontario. I'm sure they're taken somewhere else nearby.
But in reality, these allocations get changed around when it comes down to the actual engineering application. This plan is basically a line-in-the-sand in negotiations with the FCC.

Am I reading this correctly?

for the most part...

[vcrite]

It looks like we should know the plan for post-transition by this Fall:

The Commission notes that it has recently streamlined its licensing framework for DTV transmitters with the issuance of Broadcasting Regulatory Policy 2010-69. Notwithstanding the significantly expedited licensing process, the Commission expects applications for post-transition DTV transmitters to be filed by the following dates in order to ensure an orderly transition.

• 31 August 2010 for the markets of Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Toronto, Ottawa-Gatineau, Montréal, Québec and Halifax; and
• 31 December 2010 for all other mandatory markets.

http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2010/2010-167.htm

[stampeder]

By "other mandatory markets" they mean provincial and territorial capitals.

[roger1818]

Originally Posted by stampeder

By "other mandatory markets" they mean provincial and territorial capitals.

And other markets that currently have 2 or more stations. A list of all mandatory markets is given in paragraph 179 of that same Broadcasting Regulatory Policy.

[tvlurker]

Originally Posted by roger1818

And other markets that currently have 2 or more stations. A list of all mandatory markets is given in paragraph 179 of that same Broadcasting Regulatory Policy.

or markets of more than 300,000 people.

[roger1818]

Originally Posted by tvlurker

or markets of more than 300,000 people.

No, correct me if I am wrong but I beleive markets of more than 300,000 people all must report by 31 August 2010.

Correction: Victoria, London, Kitchener and Windsor all have populations greater than 300,000 people yet don't need to report by August 31.