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2011-12-07 07:14 PM
TorontoColin Exactly. Futureshop can't tell you that you can't come in to their stores because you're a woman, but they can ban you for singing loudly every time you come in. We allow everyone to come in, but if you break the rules regularly, we might ask you to leave. Whether you disagree with our rules is irrelevant, because you agreed when you registered.
2011-12-07 05:53 PM
MCIBUS Wasn't aware of the Fundamental Freedom section?

My appologies.

With that I'll comment no further on the matter, for me the issue has been answered and resolved.
2011-12-07 05:36 PM
MarcP I don't get how you can relate discrimination over what you have no control of (sex, race, eye color, etc) with freedom of speech. And we're in Canada. We have a Charter Of Rights And Freedom. I did a search on it. The word "speech" doesn't come up.
2011-12-07 05:36 PM
NeilN There's an easy solution to this. Read our Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

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15. (1) Every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law without discrimination and, in particular, without discrimination based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability.
Affirmative action programs

(2) Subsection (1) does not preclude any law, program or activity that has as its object the amelioration of conditions of disadvantaged individuals or groups including those that are disadvantaged because of race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability.(84)
You are referring to:

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Fundamental freedoms

2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
(b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;
You are free to make your opinion known via press or other media - the government cannot stop you. However, the owners of the press or other media have no obligation to allow you to express yourself. That is, you need to "buy your own press".
2011-12-07 05:23 PM
MCIBUS Private Mens clubs
Golf clubs(the one in the US where African Americans or other non Caucasian weren't allowed to join) Has since been changed.

Look I don't want this to drag on and on or get out hand.

All I wanted to know is where does someones rights begin and where do they end. I'm not tring to start some type of "war",I'm not going to discuss it any further as it appears we can't agree on this certain subject. I'll leave at the we agree to disagree. And I'll leave it at that.
2011-12-07 05:13 PM
MarcP
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Originally Posted by MCIBUS View Post
If its private, then explain why other "private" establishments have been charged under the constitution for violation of
Sex discrimination
age Discrimination
etc?
Examples?
2011-12-07 05:11 PM
MCIBUS If its private, then explain why other "private" establishments have been charged under the constitution for violation of
Sex discrimination
age Discrimination
etc?

If its private then those establishments shouldn't of been charged under the Constitution?And if Freedom Of Speech doesn't apply here, where does it tate that in the Forum Rules?

All I'm saying where do you rights begin and end? I don't want this to start into some flaming or war?
2011-12-07 05:10 PM
MarcP
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Originally Posted by MCIBUS View Post
What I'm saying is where/when do the forum rules "violate" your constitutional rights"?
Freedom of speech is a protection against the government censoring you. It has nothing to do with private forums.
2011-12-07 05:05 PM
TorontoColin It is a private forum. Freedom of speech and constitutional rights do not apply here.
2011-12-07 04:58 PM
MCIBUS True

Freedom of Speech goes to a point.

True you had to agree "rules Of the forum"

True the owners/moderators of this forum have the right to censor posts if deemed inappropriate or not in context with the thread.
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I'm not denning that.

What I'm saying is where/when do the forum rules "violate" your constitutional rights"? As far as I know Digital Home is public Forum(I think )

Like stated before I dough anyone while challenge the Forum rules in court,you'd probably be laugh at by the judge and case thrown out of court.

As well I been asked to moderate other forums but I declined, don't need the headaches or stress or nervous break down.
2011-12-07 04:48 PM
jshel101
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Originally Posted by MCIBUS View Post
As the issue is if the forum rules violate the Constitution it doesn't matter what the rules are there breaking the a constitutional law.
I really don't see how they are? Since these are private forums, how can freedom of speech come into play? You had to agree to the forum rules when signing up. The owner and mods have every right to censor anyone that they feel are breaking the rules of that particular forum.
2011-12-07 04:37 PM
MCIBUS
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Originally Posted by jshel101 View Post
You have no freedom of expression on online forums, or constitutional rights. You follow the rules the owner of the forum setup. If a person doesn't like the rules, then they don't have to sign up to that particular forum. There are hundreds of forums out there that would be better suited to an individual's tastes.

Sorry off-topic. In future posts can you use a spell checker. Your post was very hard to read with all of the spelling mistakes. sorry.

Was at work when posted, post is corrected spelling wise.

As the issue is if the forum rules violate the Constitution it doesn't matter what the rules are there breaking the a constitutional law.

There are forums(not this one) that I'm aware of that censor certain posts but not others. Comments made to individuals because of different life styles or nationalities, that other individuals discriminate against those individuals are censored but when those individuals(ones from different nationalities or life styles get censored but not the other is that fair? They have the same rules as this forum does?
2011-12-07 03:31 PM
jshel101
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Originally Posted by MCIBUS View Post
If you post something are you not intiled to freedom of speech?(as gaurented ounder the Constution) Forum rules are like laws but when those forum rules violate your constutional rights for fredom of epression or speech, why do you get censored or "scolled" by the modirator?
You have no freedom of expression on online forums, or constitutional rights. You follow the rules the owner of the forum setup. If a person doesn't like the rules, then they don't have to sign up to that particular forum. There are hundreds of forums out there that would be better suited to an individual's tastes.

Sorry off-topic. In future posts can you use a spell checker. Your post was very hard to read with all of the spelling mistakes. sorry.

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Originally Posted by cooper83 View Post
Society has proved they can't communicate with respect or tolerance or sensitivity so it's about time the comments section disappears.
I totally agree with this statement. I find these comments sections totally useless. If I do decide to read some comments, my blood is usually boiling by the time I get through a few of them.
2011-12-07 03:28 PM
cooper83 What is the point of the comments section? If the vast majority is profanity-laded insensitive remarks or often downright hate speech, why do websites feel the need to include it? Are they not just giving these scum a platform to spread hate?

If I read a newspaper and want to comment, I write/email it to the editor and it's published in the comments section. It can't be anonymous and it must be approved before it's published. Why should it be any different on the Internet? Just because it's instant communcation doesn't mean it's worthy of publishing.

Society has proved they can't communicate with respect or tolerance or sensitivity so it's about time the comments section disappears.
2011-12-07 03:13 PM
MCIBUS
But when does go to far?

The entire issue of moderating a forum is hard, I did one myself and found it hard.

True swearing, trolling flaming some other member for some stupid reason isn't right.

True forums have rules, but thats the issue.

Forum rules are meant to be like laws, but to what point?

If you post something are you not intiled to freedom of speech?(as guaranteed under the Constitution) Forum rules are like laws but when those forum rules violate your constitutional rights for freedom of expression or speech, why do you get censored or "scold" by the moderator?

I dought you'd see anyone take a forum owners to court for violating their personal constitutional rights.

True by reading a Forum rules you "supposedly" suppose to follow them. Some do some don't to a certain point.
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