MoreDB,

So do you have a "clear" shot to the south towards Seattle? Meaning, no trees nearby blocking your path?

I'm near the top of a hill , but got big trees maybe a hundred meters away and further... so I dont have a clear shot in the north/northwest direction as I'd like.

Obviously this will reduce my NM down to what's listed in my Tvfool report. But, still I'm hopeful the signal can still make it thru.

For example, I got a channel with like 2dB NM in Seattle (Tacoma) with trees in that direction too and I'm able to get it even with an old RS VU-190 and no pre-amp and by 'bad' cable setup... heh.

Was there tropo conditions this morning?

With KT-200 preamp and same VU-190 antenna with aluminum foil on the lower reflector, this morning, I was able to get picture on CHAN (RF 22), RF 20, 26, and 43.

CHAN was the best with SNR of about 18. RF 20 was weakest at SNR 16 and breaking up here and there.

Probably when I get home this evening, they'll probably be gone. :(

Just curious...

Anyone notice that Seattle has more TV stations than Vancouver, even though Vancouver is a larger city and population?

Hmm... (heh).;)

My understanding is that the CRTC only issues licenses when they feel the market can support another station, whereas the FCC issues licenses much more liberally and lets them fail in the marketplace if there's more than the market can bear.

- Trip

BE236: Vancouver's population is not larger than Seattle's.

Greater Vancouver's population is around 2.1 million.
Greater (Metro) Seattle's population is about 3.3 million.

My understanding is that the CRTC only issues licenses when they feel the market can support another station, whereas the FCC issues licenses much more liberally and lets them fail in the marketplace if there's more than the market can bear.

- Trip
Ah, that's a reasonable explanation.

BE236: Vancouver's population is not larger than Seattle's.

Greater Vancouver's population is around 2.1 million.
Greater (Metro) Seattle's population is about 3.3 million.
D'oh! Then I stand corrected.

Wow, I guess many years (10+) back, I remember Vancouver was larger.. oh well, I guess Seattle's got more influx! (heh).

Tropo tonight. Got RF 20, 22, 26, 43 with old CM 4221 from Everett. Heh.

Cold /freezing weather tonight... Getting RF 20, 22 and 43 (CBUT) using M4 about 5 metres AGL and 140km away...

Rarely get RF 17, and never RF 32 still... alas... maybe I need to build SBGH or gang up two PR 8800s or two CM 4228HDs...

i live in surrey and i have trouble getting ctv 32...hehe...mine in on the rooftop of a 3 story apartment building...so you're gonna have problems on your side..;)

Wow... that's too bad... why are your broadcasters signals so poor and low?

Look at US stations, like KOMO (RF 38) in Seattle... broadcasting at 800-1000 kilowatt ERP! (heh).

Yeah, it's hard for me to get your RF 17 and 32... occasionally, I'll get CHAN 8 and OMNI 20... and once in a while CBUT and CBUFT. heh.

It has to do with the elavation that the transmitters are at, most Vancouver transmitters are 620 meters or so above average terrain as they are up on the side of a mountain the same applies in US, Komo and a few others broadcast at higher power but are much closer to the average terrain, look at kuns 51 though it is closer to Vancouvers strength because it is up on a mountain aswell.

Ah.. yeah, I see.. it's strange why I can get RF 20 (about -12 dB NM) while RF 17 and 32 are about the same NM but I rarely get those... Those towers are basically at the same location on Mt Seymour and my home-built M4 is aimed there...

Next I plan to build an SBGH.. then if that doesnt work to get a stable lock, maybe stack up two HD-8800s as these are known to have best low UHF gain than 91XG or other Yagis.

28.1 (KBTC-HD), 28.2 (WorldView) & 28.3 (TVW) are back...I noticed this morning.

Yeah, I noticed that too.. though I could have picked up those channels on RF 27 direct from Tacoma. heh.

Now if only CBUT can boost their signal. Before I was able to pick up RF 43 intermittenly on good tropo days from down south here, but now it seems impossible in the last few months... However, I can pick up RF 26 (CBUFT), which I believe is from the same tower and even a weaker ERP still.. can't explain it.. I'm using a home-built M8 with KT-200.

appears to dead here this morning. Siganl of 75+ no picture, no sound.

What's 10.1? Do you mean RF 33 (CKVU)?

If so, I couldnt get it anyways since KWPX (ION RF 33) overrides! :mad:

is back on but the signal strength is down from 76% to around 62%...17.1 and 42.1 appear to be down in strength as well...maybe they're having issues with the antenna site at Mt. Seymour.

Greetings!

I've been reading up on the forums here and have gotten a lot of good info.

Here's my TVFool: http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3de77981404af95f

I'm about 2 mi south of the airport and have yet to find a commercial indoor antenna that can pull in channels 9, 11, and 13 on the Hi-VHF band, so I made my own 23" QICT VHF loop antenna to solve that particular problem.

I'm looking for suggestions on which indoor UHF antenna I should buy or build to get the main Seattle metro channels. I really only need the green-band channels 25 through 48, and the ION channel on 33 is the only yellow-band channel I'm even remotely interested in. I quickly threw together a 6-whisker UHF bowtie out of 18 ga wire, and that silly thing almost does the job (it doesn't pass the wife test, however).

Don't need the best - just "good-enough". :)

I would say cm4221 you can mod it l8r if need be to get higher gain, but should be good enough straight out of the box. A cm7777 amp if needed aswell.