: Marantz sr-6003 quick review
2009-04-08, 09:14 AM
Yesterday, I received the two DVI-to-HDMI adapters I recently ordered from Monoprice so that I could hook up my OPPO to my receiver, and my receiver to my projector. (I have a 50' DVI-to-DVI+M1 cable running from my A/V rack to my projector.)
After supper, I re-connected everything using the adapters, did a bit of fiddling, figured out that I had to assign the DVD player's HDMI input in the receiver's menu and then voilą! I had "The Incredibles" and "Rush - R30" in passed-through 720p on my screen! Sweet. :)
Then I turned off the DVD player while I went upstairs to watch "Heroes" on tape. I came back downstairs, turned on the DVD player...and there was nothing. Damned HDMI handshakes. :mad:
So, I fiddled a bunch of ways with the components and settings but nothing worked. The only thing I didn't try - because I didn't want to mess with the projector's bulb - was powering everything down and then powering it all back up again in sequence: projector -> receiver -> DVD player. I'll try that tonight and hope - perhaps even pray, in a secular way, to the gods of electronics ;) - that it works.
Damned HDMI handshakes...
2009-04-09, 12:11 PM
Well, that didn't work. It occurred to me that the OPPO might not support HDCP...but it does, and so does the 7210. Although I obviously haven't exhausted all possibilities just yet, I'm starting to worry that there might be a problem with the video circuitry. Here's why:
- The projector is receiving no signal at all - not even the receiver's menu - via HDMI.
- When I bring up the menu via the component connection, one line of text appears distorted. (The line changes as I scroll down the screen.)
- When I unhook the HDMI cable from the output on the back of the receiver, the distortion disappears.
The immediate next steps, to rule out cable and projector input issues, are to:
- connect the OPPO to the projector using the 50' cable, to make sure that works; and
- connect the OPPO to the projector using the supplied 6' cable, to make sure that works.
Then I'll re-connect through the receiver and see what happens.
2009-04-09, 12:21 PM
Have you tried resets or unplugging the equipment? I had some issues with my toshiba a-35 and did the "hold the power button down until it beeps" thing and it worked. No issues after that.
Or have you tried hdmi output 2 instead of 1? I know it's not a fix but it might work. And make sure to contact Marantz about this as others may be having an issue and this could bring about a firmware update.
2009-04-09, 12:24 PM
Have you tried resets or unplugging the equipment? [Edit at 14:45] Hmmm...actually, I haven't. I switched everything off, and unplugged the components from the receiver, but I didn't actually unplug everything from the wall. I'll try that tonight. I'm also going to try powering up in a different way, based on what I've read on-line today:
- receiver, switch to DVD input;
- projector, switch to M1 (HDMI/DVI) input;
- DVD player.
I had some issues with my toshiba a-35 and did the "hold the power button down until it beeps" thing and it worked. No issues after that.I'm not sure what that is, but I'll look into it.
Or have you tried hdmi output 2 instead of 1?Yup, I tried different outputs and inputs. No luck.
And make sure to contact Marantz about this as others may be having an issue and this could bring about a firmware update.If I can't resolve this, I'll be contacting Marantz for their input.
Thanks for your comments. :)
2009-04-09, 12:41 PM
The "holding the power button until it beeps" thing is considered a hard reset or re-boot and is supposed to bring everything back to factory pre-sets. So right down all the stuff you have done to your set-up before you try this, if it even works on the Marantz. I don't know as I have not tried it as I have had no such issues.
2009-04-09, 01:36 PM
Okay, thanks, I'll keep that one in mind as a near-to-last resort...
2009-04-09, 07:35 PM
YATAA!! (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Yataa!) :D
After supper tonight, I:
- unplugged the projector and switched off the A/V power bar;
- plugged the projector back in and switched the power bar on;
- turned on the receiver and selected the DVD input;
- powered up the projector and confirmed that the M1 (HDMI/DVI) input was selected (I had disabled the "auto input" mode last night); and
- switched on the DVD player...and saw the OPPO logo!
After playing a few minutes of "The Fifth Element", I powered everything down again, in reverse order (DVD, projector, receiver). I'm curious to see whether I have any issues the next time I power everything up again (probably Saturday night).
2009-04-09, 09:21 PM
Eljay is that you selling the Paradigm CC-390 center on CAM?
2009-04-09, 09:51 PM
Nope, that's me looking for one. Why - do you have one to sell? :)
2009-04-09, 11:12 PM
Oh yeah, forgot that was in the 'wanted' section. Love that site though, found some Mini Monitors just down the road for $200. Don't have a center to sell sorry.
2009-04-10, 11:14 AM
eljay: Here's what BobL said about syncing issues on a different forum.
"The implementation of the HDMI interface still has a lot of kinks and we have tested/ installed a lot of different receivers. When we have the receiver we try them with Scientific Atlanta and Motorola cable boxes, Direct TV + Dish Sat receivers and a Samsung and LG/zenith OTA box. Brands we have tested are Onkyo ( and integra), Pioneer (+elite), Denon, HK, Yamaha and Marantz. There is only one that hasn't had some type of sync issue with various pieces of equipment. Cable/Sat/ OTA boxes are typically the big offenders but sometimes we have had problems with the TV, but that is becoming more rare. Some work fine with one brand of set top box but not others or you have to put them in the right sequence.
Most of the DVD/Blu-Ray players we deal with haven't caused problems. We test these as well but most receivers seem to work fine with them.
With the 5003/6003 we have found that if you turn on the cable/sat/ota box after the input is selected it will sync fine. If you select the input and the set top box is already on then sometimes it doesn't sync. We program the systems with Marantz to make sure the boxes come on after the input is selected.
BTW, the only one that had a problem syncing was Sherwood Newcastle R-772/R-872. But it does take a LONG time for the audio to lock on. You will have a picture but the audio doesn't come on for ~10 seconds afterwards. The wait for the audio can be annoying especially if you just changed channels but that channel is a different resolution.
It all depends on one's combination of components whether you will have problems.
Hope this helps
This is for cable boxes, but it might ring true for all gear connected to the marantz. I have my harmony remote to turn the receiver on first with the selected input then everything else to power up and have yet to have issues.
2009-04-10, 04:01 PM
It seems that it's a matter of "unlearning" the straightforwardness of how SD DVD works and adapting to the quirky realities of HDMI/HDCP. As my wife pointed out, in this day and age it shouldn't be so complicated to turn on a device and expect it to work. I agree with her sentiment.
I can see how this type of silliness could deter some (many?) people from adopting the newer technology.
2009-04-21, 11:50 AM
2009-08-04, 10:26 PM
it's not a big deal but annoying ...
just to recap my setup: marantz 6003, Bell TV HD box, and Samsung LN46A650. the devices are connected to the AV receiver using HDMI cables. using harmony to control them.
the problem is when i click on the 'watch tv' activity. i will hear the sound and it will stop and then come back with the picture.
is there a way to cix it that there won't be any sound until the picture is there? or the sound will just continue without stopping?
thanks in advance.
2010-12-06, 05:06 PM
I to found that on my onkyo tx-nr 1008 I found the sound to be much better when i did my own calibrating over the way it sounded after using audyssey feature