: Yamaha HTR-6140 & PS3
2008-11-09, 01:14 AM
The YPAO worked well for me. Just the fact it set the distances of each speaker properly tells me enough to make me feel good.
Glad to know the PS3 can output video via component and audio via HDMI at the same time.
With the PS3 audio, you can select Automatic for the setup. Just make sure the 6140 is on, so the PS3 can see it. I notice for my 663 (6160 equivalent), everything is selected except AAC when I run Automatic for audio setup.
Also, in the PS3, under the Video setting, set the BD/DVD Audio Output Format (HDMI) to Linear PCM. Then run the auto audio setup above.
2009-01-31, 06:06 PM
I'm having troubles getting my HTR-6140 to read the optical in. Here's my setup:
XBOX360 connected to HTR-6140 via HDMI (the one labelled DTV/CBL)
Sony BD player connected to HTR-6140 via HDMI (the one labelled DVD).
The 6140 is then outputted to the TV via HDMI - both the Xbox 360 and BD player have no issues.
Then I have my HD-PVR connected to the tv via HDMI.
But I also want to connect the HD-PVR audio to the receiver using the optical cables. Not all shows that I'm going to watch require surround sound so I'd like to be able to watch TV using the HDMI connection, but have the audio come through on the receiver with the optical source.
I realize that there is some set up required and I tried to re-assign inputs but I couldn't get it to work. I ended up messing up the HDMI connections to not output anything to the tv so I had to reset it and start from scratch.
Anyone have any advice on how to get this accomplished. If only this receiver had 3 HDMI inputs :)
2009-01-31, 09:14 PM
When I started last year I had all kinds of problems with HDMI and 5.1
Finally gave up put dig. Optical cable in parallel with hdmi and everything worked perfectly.
I know in theory it should work, and I have had people questioning me about if I knew how to plug in cables, but I am still very sceptically about HDMI and sound.
My PS3 works great with optical cable to the Yamaha.
A friend of mine has a similar setup as I have with a Pioneer, same issue, depending on what was playing, he had good sound, someways it did not.
We got a bunch of digital coax, (his Pioneer had more coax then opt.) and ran it in parallel with HDMI, he has perfect sound now.
He had a Xbox, instead of a PS3
2009-01-31, 09:22 PM
How did you run them in parallel? More importantly, how did you set up the 6140 to use the optical input?
I want the video from my cable box to go HDMI directly to the tv. Then I want to run an optical cable to the reciever.
That way, when I just want to watch 'regular' tv, all I need to do is turn on the tv and go to HDMI. However, if I want 5.1 when watching tv, I'd still leave the tv on HDMI input to get video from the cable box, but have the sound coming through the receiver.
2009-02-01, 01:17 AM
I have HDMI from Cable/Sat box to TV
I have Optical from cable/Sat to Yamaha
With the Yamaha off, I can hear sound through TV
With the Yamaha on, I turn the TV sound to 0 and use 5.1.
Same for the PS3
I have HDMI from PS3 to TV
I have Optical from PS3 to Yamaha
With the Yamaha off, I can hear game sound through TV
With the Yamaha on, I turn the TV sound to 0 and use 5.1.
2009-02-01, 04:39 AM
I guess what I'm trying to figure out is how to setup the 6140. When I connect the optical cables, I get no audio from them. But then I read in the manual that the inputs have to be re-assigned, and I've had no luck with that
Thing is, if you have the optical cable going to the same input as the HDMI cable, then the HDMI signal will override the optical signal, even if you've properly assigned it. If you want to listen to the optical sound, you may need to feed it to a different input - say VCR or something like that and then tune to that input. You may then not get any video, so you'd need to connect the HDMI directly to the TV.
The only time I've seen people use the (both) configuration is if someone wanted to use the optical connection for say CDs, where there is no video and that input would remember the preferred sound mode for CDs for example.
You may be able to "force" the one input to cycle through the various audio inputs. I don't know if this is done by repeatedly pressing the particular input button on the remote to go through HDMI - Optical - Analogue, or whether this is done with an audio button on the remote. Perhaps this is discussed in the operating manual.
2009-02-01, 02:21 PM
So your saying:
HDMI straight to TV and then optical straight to receiver and tune with my remote?
I assume that would work...
Correct. It would work since there is no lossless audio on the PVR, so HDMI to the AVR is not necessary.
2009-02-01, 04:18 PM
Another question is,
if I take an old rca cable from my vcr (somewhere in the basement) can I use that to hook up my sat receiver with digital coax out to the receiver.
Also I read in a forum that said a guy had a sat box connected via digital coax, a xbox via optical, and his media player via optical but he was only able to use one optical and one coax... he claims you cant use all three only two of the three?
I ask all this about the digital coax because I am not sure where my rca cables are...
2009-02-05, 01:58 PM
Well..I've changed my setup to this:
1) BD to 6140 through HDMI - 3 foot run - changing to 6 foot run soon
2) Xbox 360 to 6140 through HDMI - 3 foot run
3) 6140 to TV through HDMI - 12 foot run - changing to 6 foot run soon
4) HD-PVR to 6140 through composite cables - HDMI to TV - 6 foot run
At one point in time, I alternated the XBOX 360 and HD-PVR to the 6140 through HDMI, but it seemed to compromise the video quality. It looked grainy when the video was being fed through the receiver. Going straight into the TV and it's crystal clear.
So now comes the next question - is there a degradation in quality when the video is passed through the receiver? This is especially important with the BD player. Watched Band of Bros BD last night, and there were several instances where the quality was grainy when going through the reciever. Haven't tried the same scene yet going directly from BD to the TV.
If it is grainy, would I lose any audio quality with this setup:
1) BD video to TV through HDMI
2) BD audio to 6140 through digital COAX?
Or is HDMI that much more superior in terms of sound quality?
2009-02-19, 05:10 PM
If it helps, I have the 6140 and PS3 connected through HDMI and find the audio (speakers are Polk RTi6 series) to be noticeably clearer. Any particular scenes you find grainy for Band of Brothers? I have this series and can try it out as well.
2009-02-20, 02:18 PM
I have Band of Brothers on BD and also notice the hole film is grainy, I turned down the sharpness all the way down and it helped a little bit.
Do you notice the darker picture when going through the 6140 with HDMI?
2009-02-20, 03:36 PM
I would imagine a lot of sequences in Band of Brothers were shot and kept intentionally grainy to mimic WWII-style footage.