2008-06-09, 11:41 PM
Edit by 57 - I decided to spit this discussion from the eBay thread. As many of you know, Rogers (Ontario) doesn't activate "outside" SA STBs (those SA STBs which were not purchased from Rogers, their distributors, or a Rogers customer in good standing.
"Outside" Motorola STBs can be activated by some service providers) Link to eBay thread:
Good Luck, because if you're successful, Rogers will be deluged with people wanting to do the same.
So...this would be a bad thing? :rolleyes:
Well, it depends. If the people who want their outside STBs activated spend enough (additional) money at Rogers to pay for the "special activation" required by the CSRs, then that may be some incentive, however, if the (additional) cost and troubleshooting exceeded the profit (as it probably did at Shaw) which may also be part of why they don't allow it any more, then it may not be a good thing.
I also don't think it's a good thing to promote an activity which assists with the traffic of stolen goods. In the US it's not possible to purchase SA (or Motorola) STBs from service providers (all are rented), therefore many of the STBs on eBay are stolen. (note, I don't say all, just many.). If there is no market for stolen goods, then there aren't very many stolen goods.
In Canada, only Videotron and Rogers Ontario use SA, so it wouldn't be difficult to find a customer for a used STB in the appropriate region - the ones on sale at reasonable prices on this forum are often sold quickly, so no one is "stuck" if they need to move.
2008-06-10, 06:35 PM
No, because of the reasons you stated above (theft and selling of stolen goods). We should have the right to have a box bought authorized and not be held hostage by the limited number of outlets selling them (Rogers, FS, BB, The Source CC) but it could open up a whole host of problems of people unknowingly buying a stolen box that the cable-co. cannot authorize.
How about a solution of letting more stores selling SA STBs so there just like there's sales and competitive prices on various DVD players (for example), Wal-Mart, Zellers and others can slash the price of them to get more people buying them. The cable company would win because there would be more people open to using them and buying more channels.
2008-06-11, 01:43 AM
I do not advocate the trade in stolen goods or anything remotely similar. What I was suggesting was, if Rogers were to be deluged with customers wanting to authorize STBs they bought for cheap from wherever, this would not necessarily be bad for customers.
My sarcastic comment was prompted because 57's sarcastic comment, "Good Luck", implied that it would be bad for Rogers to be deluged. Rightly or wrongly, I am under the impression this forum is to assist Rogers' customers not to assist Rogers Corporation and I felt that this particular comment was not directed towards helping Rogers Customers.
Rogers could be much more friendly to its customers, and discourage the trade in stolen goods, if it provided some way of checking the pedigree of an STB prior to purchase. I am still naive enough to assume that not all STBs offered for sale are necessarily stolen.