innovative22, a good combo would do great for what you want. I recommend the Delhi line of antennas but the CM Crossfire 3671 is certainly a good one.

Also if you use the Search this Thread tool to the upper right and use "Leamington" as the search term you'll see how discussions have gone in the past about OTA reception. We have several other DHC members from your area. :)

See the antenna chart in my links for my recommendations:

Innovator22,

I live in the Puce area ( about 25 minutes north of Kingsville for the rest of you). All I use to get all Detroit locals is a roof mounted vhf / uhf combo on a rotator. When antenna is turned southward I pull in Cleveland. I do have a uhf amplifier but seldom use it, do not really need to from my location.
So, I don't think you need to go crazy in order to get the stations you want. You already live on the shores of lake Erie therefore Cleaveland etc.. should not be a problem. An amplifier would probably help you get the PBS broadcast from Lansing Michigan though. I thought about buying a CM 4228 also but, would not pull in anymore stations anyway so, why not stick with what I have. Good luck, send me a PM if you have more specific questions.

Just put up CM4221 on my chimney, and pointed at Detroit.

DTV I get:
2.1
4.1.2
7.1.2
20.1.2
38.1.2
50.1
56.1.2.3
62.1

A lot of analogue channels as well, but not all in great quality. CBC is clear though.

I'm not sure if I can get any more HD channels if I play with it (pointing), this list is just from the plug and play setup.


One question, do you guys ground your antenna?

Thanks, and good luck with your setup.

Definately ground the antenna.

Grounding prevents static build up, which prevent surges and attraction of lighting. ;)

pdude, everything you need to know about antenna grounding is here: http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=62265

Also see these links for general OTA info:

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Took the pictures with my Blackberry Curve so excuse the poor quality photos.

It was very warm today and there is not one hint of snowon the ground. 52'F whoo.

Ok there was a trick to it. I was in Michigan since Friday for the weekend and just got home. Bought on sale at Best Buy a UBS Visiontek that uses Ati tuner and software. Got it on Thanksgiving sale for $60.00 included in the box a whip antenna.

Thought the antenna could not pull in the uhf but sitting in the car at Sterling Heights(Lakeside Mall) all the HDTV stations came in. In the hotel room on a scan all the hd came in 4 out of 5 bars.

Since I did all my shopping by Sat treated myself to the new Megellan 4250 gps and usb hd ota tuner etc. ;) So on Sunday the family and friends was shopping again while I was watching in the vechicle HD Nfl. :)

I have a 500watt inverter wired up right to the battery so now while Im in the us I can watch hd on my laptop.

i am thinking of buying a stealth CM antenna model 3010, anyone tell me if these are good for the buck, or just a waste of time and money? i live in the windsor area(by detroit), and what HD channels will i get with this, thanks, new guy lol

The CM3010 will be fine for Windsor/Detroit needs, and you can see by reading through this thread which stations you'll be able to get. :)

ok thanks, do you know which is the best direction for pointing my antenna?

The majority of the Detroit network broadcast towers are in Southfield which is kind of NW of Windsor.

Hi there ...... Just found this site from searching for OTA HD.......

Lots of great info here and I am learning alot. :p:p

Just yesterday I hooked up to my roof antenna (an older round powered dish type) not to up on different antenna's.

I am getting some good signals for analogue and getting about 8 digital and HD channels......

I live in Leamington and this was just plug and play, I did not even turn the antenna at all (my inlaws use the same one and they don't like to change it all the time...):( But in the spring I plan to change the setup a bit and I have one of the older ""BIG"" roof mount antennas that look like a fancy arrow with a router to turn it.

I too live in Leamington. I thought I would always be the only one!

Are you getting channel 4, NBC?

my strength on fox 2 detroit hd is about 90-95% but it drops down to 0% every couple of minutes or so, then back up to 90%. so this causes a little bit of glitching. does anyone know why this is happening? thanks

I have an FTA receiver, and lately use it mainly to receive the OTA HD channels in the Detroit area. From my location, there are 3 channels within 4 degress of each other. I get 2 out of the 3 with no issues. The 3rd one is FOX Detroit. I have tweaked my antenna many times with no luck. I also have an older model HD receiver. I plugged it in and did a scan on the channels, and FOX Detroit comes in great. I am stumped as to why I cannot get FOX Detroit, channel 2, with my current receiver. Can anyone shed any light on this?

Assuming that the same antenna was being used and the cabling is identical for both tests, either:

Your older model HD receiver and your FTA receiver have different ATSC tuners, and the older model HD receiver's tuner is better for OTA.
Environmental conditions were better for transmission OTA signals than when you tested the older model HD receiver.
A combination of 1) & 2) above :)

Your FTA receiver has a poor quality tuner which is failing to separate out & reject the signals reflected off buildings in downtown Detroit. It therefore gives you zilch on ch 59.

All Detroit stations are now at full digital power
Fox DT is ch 59
CBS DT is ch 44
ABC DT is ch 41
NBC DT is ch 45
PBS DT is ch 43 (on same tower as CBS DT)
Ch 50 WKBD-DT is ch 14
Ch 20 WDWB-DT is ch 21
Ch 38 WADL-DT is ch 39

BAsed on what you said, do you think an amplifier on this line would make any difference?

Are you using a good outdoor antenna?

Its a pretty good antenna. I paid over 100 bucks for it. I;m not sure of the brand, but it was reccomended. Its basically a UHF type of antenna, since most OTA HD channels are broadcast in UHF. Plus, as I said earlier, I can get FOX Detroit with an older receiver and the same antenna, with no issues.

I must be doing something wrong.
I'm in Kingsville

I've got a LN-T4642h Samsung LCD with built-in Tuner.
I tried an indoor antenna, went into menu, input Air, autoprogram air..

picked up a few stations here and there of really snowy blurred channels..

so then I tried the antenna outdoors..

Nothing...
5 channels..

MY TV picks up some locals but nothing in HD..

Nothing in decimal #'s... just like

11,13,16.22, 32

What am I doing wrong???