: AB - Calgary, Lethbridge, Southern Alberta - OTA
2010-08-31, 02:17 PM
Here's a screenshot I took of Citytv's test transmission on UHF Channel 49.
Programming is pre-recorded and does not match the output of analog CKAL-TV on VHF Channel 5.
On the computer, signal strength is 100% and quality is 80% with two-bay folded dipole antenna hooked to a Hauppauge HVR950Q.
On the television, strength is listed at the top end of "Normal" with an indoor SBGH.
A split signal from the same antenna feeds the DTV converter box, which records 74% strength and 75%-85% quality.
No PSIP data are entered; virtual Channel 5 isn't used, either. The station displays as 49-1.
2010-08-31, 04:00 PM
I want another station to play with! lol...
I couldn't get anything from my hotel room in motel village in Calgary with my HVR-950Q. I was able to on the roof of our office which is not that far down the road from there.
Great news for DTV status in the province of Alberta for sure!
2010-08-31, 08:30 PM
Wow, CKAL-DT is coming in at over 95% strength and an SNR of 34 db. It is the strongest of the three.
I am in Bridgeland using the CM4221HD. Still amazed every time at the picture quality.:)
2010-08-31, 09:52 PM
Wow is good, hooked up my coat-hanger antenna and CKAL-DT came perfect. Antenna was in my living room. Castleridge.
2010-08-31, 10:52 PM
It's great to see another digital station going on air in this city. I live in the Sandstone/Macewan area in NW Calgary and am using a homemade SBGH with no preamps. CKAL-DT is coming in great in my upstairs bedroom with 5 bars of signal strength (6 bars means about 90-100% signal strength on Windows Media Center, which I use to watch TV). CICT-DT also at 5 bars of signal strength. The only channel I couldn't get here is CFCN-DT, can't wait for that channel to start transmitting with higher power.
2010-08-31, 11:05 PM
I am able to get CKAL-DT signal in Cochrane 4 to 6 bars on Windows Media Center PC. I first added as channel 5 assigned frequency 49.1 but could not get any picture. I then checked the channel signal strength with a signal strenght of 4-6 bars ?? I then reread that the channel information was not virtual channel 5 so I add the channel as 49.1 assign frequency 49.1. I can now see the testing program. I hope this will help others using a Windows Media Center PC
2010-08-31, 11:08 PM
The signal is about 6% stronger than global 2.1 .
At 9pm in Orile Park , north red deer i have 72% on global
and 78% on ckal 49.1
I have been watching since 7:50 pm , a record for me as most channels can not been seen until at least 8:30pm.
On a good signal day this channel should rock!
I got rid on my coathanger hoverman ant and rebuilt with 10 guage copper wire. I also added a cookie cooling rack for a reflector.
In a weak signal area the 10 guage wire really helps.
2010-08-31, 11:42 PM
I get CKAL-DT here, on simple Philips Amplified Indoor Aerial Set (Rabbit's ears and UHF loop, btw all digital channels also work fine unamplified) on my Sammy at 80% (this is at 22X/Marquis of Lorne)... CICT-DT is at 100% and CTV-DT at 70%. Indeed 49.1, no PSIP, no virtual channel...
Mind you, literal line-of-sight helps quite a bit.
2010-08-31, 11:45 PM
That's great to see such results on an indoor antenna, but being so far away from Broadcast Hill just keep in mind the option of a rooftop antenna if you find that the signal drops out when a bus, big truck, or RV goes by your house. ;)
2010-09-01, 12:42 AM
There is quite some traffic (buses, RV's etc) going by, but seems not to interfere signal... Good thing is, that traffic is on reflective side, not between 'Hill' and antenna... Also antenna is fairly high up, as house looks out over Fish Creek Park (with nice view of Mountains, Downtown and 'the Hill') from some height, with no traffic 'Hillwards' for over 3 km (Parkland, Deer Ridge). Difference in height between Antenna and roof is about 6 feet for one and 14 feet for the other...
2010-09-01, 10:26 AM
I am on Broadcast Hill and CKAL-DT comes the weakest of the three, about 10-15% weaker than CICT-DT. On the ground floor I can't even lock it with an internal antenna, it's kind of OK on the second floor with a piece of wire.
2010-09-01, 12:48 PM
My buddy in Claresholm gets CKAL-DT at 100% signal strength.
2010-09-01, 01:37 PM
When testing your ckal 49.1 reception , take into account that
the solar noise is very high right now.
This will lower your signal quality on all channels you get. Half the calgary radio stations are fading out today ,because of the noise.
It's hard to determine how long the signal noise will last it could be a few days, weeks or months.
Take this into account when you aim your antenna's .
2010-09-01, 11:18 PM
CKAL DT is coming in strong here in Strathmore, slightly stronger than Global DT. CFCN DT is still the weakest for me.But I still havent got a preamp yet.
2010-09-03, 02:36 AM
I built a Double Bay Gray-Hoverman , now i have my signals back.
At 11:30pm North red deer cict 2.1 79%
ckal 49.1 84%
ckem 17.1 75%
There is so much noise today channel 13, citv looks like a snow storm.
On uhf most of the noise seems to be hitting channels 16-38.
channels 49 and 51 are performing a lot better.
Is anyone else having problems with there channels from solar noise ?
From north red deer my estimated distance to calgary is about 157 km.
Has any one else been able to get calgary signals from greater distances ?
2010-09-03, 09:51 PM
My wife reports that CKAL-DT Channel 49.1 signal is coming in strongly in Banff Trail/Capitol Hill area displaying CityTV's half hour test loop.
2010-09-09, 01:25 AM
I am new to this forum, after reading this forum about the Calgary and area OTA. Finally, I made my TV receiving 8 analogue 3 digital chnls with an indoor antenna from Philips model PHDTV3. My location is in Brentwood NW.
I am planning to buy an outdoor antenna to obtain better signal strength.
I read the outdoor antenna forum, the omni-directional (UFO disk) should be avoided.
The wacky antenna with rotor from e bay are junks per forum.
After reading, it seems all TV stations transmitting from the same tower(?)
If I pick the directional antenna, what direction to point to in order to optimize all stations reception? Should I follow the indoor antenna positioning? This Philips model gets a pair of rabbit ears for VHF on a triangular base (1 inch thick) with an amplifier. I suspect the UHF antenna is molded inside. That means the UHF antenna is not the same as a vertical loop it is laid flat on table top. If it is turned a couple degrees, then pixelation will happen on the channel.
Any recommendation of antenna model?
Thank you in advance
2010-09-09, 01:01 PM
@moonwalker: Welcome to the forum!
You can search through this thread with the word "Brentwood" and neighbouring communities to see what others in your area are experiencing in terms of television reception. Just off the top of my head, I'm thinking you'll be just fine.
When it comes to antenna choices, have you seen Stampeder's antenna chart?
As for antenna pointing, Calgary's TV broadcasters are on three towers on Broadcast Hill, which is the ridge on the south/west side of the Bow River. Check out TV Fool for a visual representation of Calgary's TV coverage and TV tower locations.
2010-09-10, 02:13 AM
Thank you for the info
I think I just point the antenna toward broadcast hill to catch all channels
2010-09-10, 02:44 AM
Look forward to your reception report(s) once you've got your setup all figured out.