: Is it worth it running 8 cables from the dish ?


nagard
2008-02-13, 11:35 PM
Some people suggest running more than 4 cables from the dishes lnb's.
However from what I know, Bell dishes only have 4 outputs. How would you use the 4 other cables ?

And even if you could, why would you ? I mean what's the advantage if you already have those sw44 and sw44a multiswitches ?

Q
2008-02-14, 09:04 AM
If they add another satellite then you will need two more lines with legacy equipment.

If you are planning to view other satellites other than Bell then you will need more lines as well.

sofaspud
2008-02-14, 11:02 PM
If they add another satellite then you will need two more lines with legacy equipment.

If you are planning to view other satellites other than Bell then you will need more lines as well.
There are legacy SW64 switches, right? Three satellites to four tuners? I'd rather go with a DPP34 - get the same performance but reduce the number of lines from 6 to 3.

dosborne
2008-02-15, 07:43 AM
Evryone has a unique situation.

Some people will never go beyond 1 or 2. Some find it wasier to run more.

If the install location is difficult to get at, if the cables are not an eye-sore, if you've got the extra $20, I'd say what-the-heck, go for it. You never know.

If it is a new install, I would not suggest going less than 4. Do you really need to go beyond? Unlikely, but spare cables for another dish, more receivers, new sats, cable failure etc isn't a bad idea, although obviously not necessary for most people at this time.

kandkt
2008-02-15, 11:21 PM
If it is a new install, I would not suggest going less than 4. Do you really need to go beyond? Unlikely, but spare cables for another dish, more receivers, new sats, cable failure etc isn't a bad idea, although obviously not necessary for most people at this time.

I would run a minimum of 6 cables for a new installation. We know that there will be a new satellite (73 degrees) in 2009/2010. Cable is cheap. Running extra cables down the road could get expensive.

i hate tv
2008-02-16, 10:08 AM
I agree
Run it now, during the building phase
You may never need them, but if you do, you will be very thankful!

I_Want_My_HDTV
2008-02-24, 05:36 PM
Whatever you do, be sure to seal the ends of unused cables to prevent moisture damage. Once moisture enters the cable, it's ruined.

dosborne
2008-02-25, 08:02 AM
Whatever you do, be sure to seal the ends of unused cables to prevent moisture damage. Once moisture enters the cable, it's ruined.
An easy way to accomplish this is to install (good quality) connectors even on unused cables. I always use outdoor grade (rubber o-rings and silicon gell) connectors even indoors. I usually install a barrel connector to join unused cables toegther and then tape over it all with electrical tape, but this is likely overkill and I usually go to excess :)

Also wouldn't hurt to label both ends of all the cables to save you some time down the road.

nagard
2008-02-25, 10:01 PM
An easy way to accomplish this is to install (good quality) connectors even on unused cables. I always use outdoor grade (rubber o-rings and silicon gell) connectors even indoors. I usually install a barrel connector to join unused cables toegther and then tape over it all with electrical tape, but this is likely overkill and I usually go to excess :)

Also wouldn't hurt to label both ends of all the cables to save you some time down the road.
Do you have a link to those outdoor grade connectors ?

And what is a barrel connector ?

dosborne
2008-02-25, 10:06 PM
Sorry, I don't have links to connectors. Your local electronics store or hardware store should have them. The ones I bought were from Home Hardware, a package of 50 for about $15, good deal !! Not sure if they still carry them, this was a couple years back and I bought 3 packages.

A barrel connector is the same piece you would find in a wall plate. 2 female ends, used to join 2 pieces of cable.

nagard
2008-02-25, 11:00 PM
Sorry, I don't have links to connectors. Your local electronics store or hardware store should have them. The ones I bought were from Home Hardware, a package of 50 for about $15, good deal !! Not sure if they still carry them, this was a couple years back and I bought 3 packages.

A barrel connector is the same piece you would find in a wall plate. 2 female ends, used to join 2 pieces of cable.
Ahh, I think I get it. Something like this:
http://www.appliedtel.com/Image/Shop/Product/img_643_Med.jpg

Sorry, English is my third language so I'm not familiar with all the terms. The idea of joining unused connectors and taping them makes a lot of sense. Thanks!

Leaf Fan
2008-02-26, 07:54 AM
You are right nagard on the barrel connector
For good outdoor fittings, you may need a special compression tool to properly install the connectors
Dependind on how much you want to spend, a good tool is made by Thomas & Betts
It will prepare the cable at the end for the connector, and then crimp it on
Check ebay
P.S I wish I was as familiar with a second language, as you are with your third!:D

dosborne
2008-02-26, 08:05 AM
Sorry, English is my third language so I'm not familiar with all the terms. The idea of joining unused connectors and taping them makes a lot of sense. Thanks!
No worries, you seem to be doing very well. If spelling counted, most of the posts would have to be edited or deleted LOL, including many of mine.

rockhollow
2008-02-26, 02:03 PM
I'm glad for this thread, as we are going to have to bury cables this spring. We originally buried only 2 lines for the BEV dish - now a few years later when we upgraded to HDTV now need to have 2 more cables. We just have them laying on the ground right now (everything is still frozen here in eastern BC) and will put them in later spring. After reading the comments here, I think we will add 2 more for just in case. Our original cables are just buried without conduit, 18 inches down.

nagard
2008-02-27, 01:18 AM
You are right nagard on the barrel connector
For good outdoor fittings, you may need a special compression tool to properly install the connectors
Dependind on how much you want to spend, a good tool is made by Thomas & Betts
It will prepare the cable at the end for the connector, and then crimp it on
Check ebay
P.S I wish I was as familiar with a second language, as you are with your third!:D
I got the Ideal OmniSeal Pro and it works great.
I ordered my compression F connectors from Monoprice, but I might use different ones for outside, as some people have suggested.