: cascading SW44 switch for 5+ tuners


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Pinza
2008-12-15, 07:26 PM
Yes that sounds fine.

The things you need are called barrel Connectors (F81's), try to ensure the ones you get are rated for 2 Ghz, these normally have a blue insert inside them.

The Multiswitch's in the link look perfect, although I have not heard of the make before.

kraddy
2008-12-15, 11:08 PM
Much appreciated Pinza.

I will get some of those connectors if needed.

rosenqui
2008-12-16, 08:37 AM
Unless you already have the second SW44, I'd be inclined to get a SW44A as shown in post #4 (http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showpost.php?p=682377&postcount=4) of this thread. It saves you from having to use the multiswitches and cuts the number of short coax cables you need from 8 down to 4.

Pinza
2008-12-16, 08:42 AM
NOTE;

SW44a's, are NOT approved or supported by Bell TV. Use at your own risk.

Coop
2008-12-16, 10:54 AM
I used the SW44a on my set up and have had no problems.

If your willing to take the risk it is a cleaner install. (less clutter) All my switches are installed inside my basement, it still amazes me people let installers hang them ugly switches on the outside of their houses.

What exactly can or well Bell do if they find you are using a SW44a switch?
other than not help? from reading these boards, most think they don't help much anyway.

Pinza
2008-12-16, 12:41 PM
it still amazes me people let installers hang them ugly switches on the outside of their houses.

This is the approved method using the Bell Best Practice Manual. If a Customer requests the SW44 be mounted inside and they are only installing a 9242 there would be an extra charge of $100 for the additional 2 lines. If you want to pay, then go ahead, otherwise they are placed at the Dish as part of the "Free Basic Installation".

What exactly can or well Bell do if they find you are using a SW44a switch?

Next time you call Bell TV and are speaking with a CSR in India and they ask you to run a Check Switch and you say, it shows an SW44a, you will have them all confused, they are not scripted for that switch so they will not be able to help you at all. If Bell TV decide to remove the line of code from the software that allows the SW44a to work, you are SOL.

I use DPP equipment throughout my house. I know the risks and I am willing to take them.

I am just pointing out that unless you are familiar with the way it "should" be connected as per Bells own Manual, then do not risk going custom.

Using SW44a's and/or DP/DPP within the 90 installation warranty period is also to be discouraged.

pullt1
2009-01-23, 07:32 PM
My original installation was a small bell dish run to a 60569 (2 inputs from LNB with four outputs to recievers) then I bought a 9242 receiver and HD dish and ran two RG6's to 9242 and a one feed each to 3100 recievers this came from a SW44 switch that came with the 9242 package sparing up the 60569.

My son bought a 6131 HD reciever..........is there any way to hook this up using the 60569??? if so do I take two feeds from the SW44 and run it into the inputs of the 65069 or do I need to get something else.......for now I disconnected a seldom used 3100 to get his 6131 working but I would like to get all five working.

i hate tv
2009-01-23, 08:28 PM
Have a look in the installation forum stickies at the top, it will explain everything, with diagrams
From the sounds of it, you will need another 60569 (I think this is a 2X4 switch)
From the lnb, 2 lines will feed (1) 2X4 switch (82 degree satellite)
and from the other LNB, lines will feed (1) 2X4 switch for the 91 satellite
Then, you will have 8 jumpers to run
(2) 82 and (2) 91 to one of the sw 44's, and then repeat to another sw44, or a sw21 if you choose

Pinza
2009-01-23, 08:45 PM
You were correct i hate tv, the 60569 is the internal code number for a regular 4 way switch.

North_of_Calgary
2009-01-25, 07:29 PM
I've got a quad LNB (not DPP) on my dish that provides me with 4 82/91 feeds. No other splitters or switches in my current setup.

I read through the posts in this thread but didn't think I saw a similar situation yet. What would be the options for me to add a 5th feed to a new receiver? I have a SW44 and SW21 in my spare parts inventory. Not sure that's enough?

Any expert advice? Thanks a lot.

Q
2009-01-25, 07:42 PM
NOC,

The legacy twin and quad are limited to 4 with no way of expanding that I know of.

You would have to get another dish or replace the quad with two duals and then use a cascading method.

SimmZ
2009-02-06, 03:40 PM
Well, I'm trying to figure out how to connect :

- BEV 9200 HDTV PVR (dual tuner)
- BEV 9242 HDTV PVR (dual tuner)
- BEV 2700 receiver
- BEV 3100 receiver

All that on a single antenna w/ dual LNB.

A friend at work help me doing a diagram of a possible "low cost" wiring who are supposed to work fine. He already test that setup a few years ago with sucess. Just tell me what you are thinking of it.

I saw on the first post I can use some HighFrequency Splitter with two SW44 instead of using SW24 to connect to a SW44... what is the best? I don't care to pay a little more for SW24 switches instead of cheap HF splitter because I want to get the better signal on my receiver as possible.

http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu125/vlopddap/sch_BEV.jpg

Q
2009-02-06, 04:52 PM
Looks good SimmZ

QCK
2009-02-06, 05:32 PM
This is a perfect example of why it is ridiculous why Bell won't move to DP/DPP equipment. With two dual DP LNBs, one DPP44 switch and a DPP seperator at each HD receiver this messy setup would be so much cleaner.

As Q said, good work on the diagram SimmZ.

scrooloose
2009-02-06, 06:57 PM
True, but there is nothing stopping him from using the DPP44.

-Mike

Tom.F.1
2009-02-06, 08:56 PM
theoretically, no difference using splitters or sw24's.
I use two sw24's and two sw44's, giving me 2 more outputs for another 9242. And won't have to change any wiring when i upgrade the 2700's to single tuner HD.
I put it all on a board in the garage, including power inserters, so i don't have to screw with power inserters behind the recievers.
P.S. SW24's are dirt cheap online.

Coop
2009-02-06, 09:03 PM
Regarding my SW44a set up, I've done a check switch on all of my receivers and the SW44a doesn't show at all.. all say SW44. With that said there is no way Bell can tell I'm using the 44a switch as far as i can tell.

So Simmz why not look into the SW44 & SW44a switch option?
Personally I think there's less connection points which equals less problems, it also has a cleaner look on the install.

Right now I have a 9242, 6141, 4700 and 2700 unit hook up with no problems... plus I have 3 free outlet for future use.

QCK
2009-02-06, 10:09 PM
True, but there is nothing stopping him from using the DPP44.

-Mike
I don't believe I said there was something stopping him. This was one of the reasons I posted what I did. And just to add to that, if you are going to expand your receiver count and do not yet have a SW44 I personaly would get the DP LNBs and DPP44 switch. The cabling is so much cleaner and straight forward, plus there is no problem cascading DPP44 switch for expansion where with legacy equpiment you would have to get a SW44a which again Bell does not support.

mackdaddy0586
2009-02-22, 04:19 PM
I am planning on going with the following setup. However, the SW34 switches that I currently have are amplified (i.e. they have a power inserter). The two SW44's (just for clarification they are both SW44's without the "A") I have also have a power inserter. Should I bother with the power inserters for the SW34's. Will I overload the setup with too much power or will adding the power inserters for the SW34's just be redundant?

http://www.digitalhome.ca/information/satellite/sw34_sw44.jpg

Q
2009-02-22, 04:59 PM
mackdaddy0586,

Some models came with power inserters in the Sw34 switch's. I would think the switch actually requires this.

Q