: The DPP44 switch
You need to use the DPP switch because the DPP seperator wil not work with just a DP switch.
As for LNBs, if you are going to buy single LNB heads, there is no such thing as a DPP dual LNB only DP dual LNBs, but they will work just fine as long as they are going into a DPP44 switch. If you are going to buy a twin LNB head you can buy either a DP Twin or a DPP Twin as they both will work going into a DPP44 switch.
So in a quick summary you must have a DPP44 switch, but you can use any type of DP or DPP LNBs that are available as long as they are going to your DPP44 switch.
2010-04-21, 05:23 PM
Actually you are wrong, there are DPP Twin LNB's, I have one on my dish and if I did not have the DPP44 switch I could run one cable to two dual tuner PVRS and use the DPP separator.
2010-04-21, 05:50 PM
I would read QCK's post again, Altaman, he never says there is no such animal as a DPP Twin LNBF....... He does say there is no such thing as a DPP Dual, which is correct.
Yep, Altaman read it again my friend. I made sure my configuration & terminology were correct when I made that post, and I do actually state that he could buy a DP Twin or a DPP Twin where you are saying I am wrong.
2010-04-22, 11:01 AM
I apologize I might have lots of questions but im totally new to this. Presently I have 4 receivers 2 HD and 2 SD connected on SW44 switch.My dish has 4 coax cables running inside the apartment going to SW44
I am moving to my first 3 storey townhouse and is actually being built right now. I have 5 cables distributed inside the house.All cables meet at the basement unfinished area. The South West side of the house is at the back.
I would assume that line of sight can already be attained when dish is instlled on the wall anywhere in the exterior wall of the second floor area and upward to the tip of the roof. (I think its PVC coated exterior) . Cables migh run down directly to the basement exterior wall (because only half of the basement is buried underground) and a hole might be drilled on the wall to penetrate inside directly to the basement unfinished area. Total cable run maybe approx 15 meters times 4 (from dish to central switch).
My question is:
Will Bell provide installation of the 4cables from dish to basement?
If ever they will drill the hole how will they insulate this?
Since Bell usually connects 1 to 2 receivers for free will they provide cabling from the SW44 to a receiver located in the basement?
Since I would have 5 receivers will I need another Switch ( I think I have spare SW21 if I remeber right) ?will it be free? Does the Technician configure the 2 switches install at least 1 receiver and I will activate the rest?
Im trying to lower down any cost possible. Contractor is a bit pushy on providing the cables from basement to dish at 60 dollars each times 4 cables so 240 dollars plus tax. Do you guys think this is better.
2010-04-22, 06:12 PM
On a "Move Order" Bell will install the Dish mount an SW44 at the rear of the Dish and run 1 line to 1 receiver anywhere in the house, for FREE. After that it is $50 per line. So to install the 2 HD & 2 SD you have now would cost you an extra $150.
Then you want to add a 5th Receiver/Tuner. Have a read through this thread;
2010-04-29, 01:43 PM
All cables meet at the mechanical area in basement. I the SW44 would be at the rear of the dish how can other reciever be connected. Is there a way that the SW44 be located in the basement considering I would only settle for 4 receivers. Thank you.
2010-04-29, 02:25 PM
If you are paying to install 4 receivers/tuners, then yes the Tech will or should mount the SW44 in the basement. If you are only getting the "Free Move Promo", then he will put it behind the Dish, as he will not be paid for the extra lines.
So am I
What are trying to say?
2010-05-10, 04:22 PM
So am I
me too ;)
2010-08-07, 01:23 PM
Is anyone running a 3100 with a DPP44? Trying to setup a friend and I can only get odd transponders on 91 and 82. Firmware and card are latest.
His 9200 and 9242 show even and odd just fine on the same cable.
I setup a temp dish with a legacy LNB and get Even and Odd TPs no problem.
2010-08-07, 04:05 PM
I have used a DPP44 with a 3100 no problem. Although I have 2 2700's of which 1 of them (a very old model with the old style AC cord) will not work with the DPP44 at all.
I know you know this, but did you run check switch? Run it with no DPP44 feed attached and with the feed attached.
2010-08-07, 04:22 PM
Recently for the 3100? Yes, I ran a check switch after clearing the matrix with no feed connected.
2010-08-07, 09:13 PM
Tried everything and no joy. When I had Bell, my 3100 worked fine with the DPP44.
I assume the firmware is the problem now.
Calling Pinza.........your experience please.
2010-08-08, 03:14 PM
It's not the firmware, I just tried a 3100 on my DPP44 that has not been hooked up for 2 years, and the software updated to the current revision, and both sat's are detected (before and after the update), and all TP's on 91 and the non 8PSK one on 82 are detected.
Remember the 3100 does not have 8PSK and can only pick up a few of the transponders on 82 now (4 or 5 don't use 8PSK for transmitting), as compared to last year prior to June when 8PSK was not used at all.
There is probably something wrong with the receiver, or maybe it is a early build with a different chip set that prevents it from functioning with dp Plus.
2010-08-08, 03:46 PM
Sorry peano, I can offer no other ideas. I just tried 4 x 3100's onto a DPP44, all see everthing they should, no problems like you are getting.
Do you have another DPP44 to try.? I seem to recall having a switch a year or so ago that gave problems with a 5800, it worked fine on the second switch.... Clutching at straws now.....
2010-08-08, 08:52 PM
Thanks guys. He has a DP Twin feeding a DPP44. I will try another LNB. The 3100 is remanufactured. Maybe that is the problem. But legacy works fine.
If possible check to see the copper lead is sticking out of the barrel enough. I like to have mine about 1/8". I have had multiple situations crop up like yours and it was a wiring problem.
2010-11-27, 05:27 PM
I am having the strangest problem...I swapped my bev LNB for DPP with DPP44...I can lock on one satelite but not both...
i.e i lock on 91 and check 82 no signal I went outside and switched the wires I lock on 82 not 91...
Can anyone help please....
2010-11-27, 05:35 PM
Did you run check switch?
Does your install look like this.