Reading all, I'm more confused than ever. I have 2 3100's, 1 6100 and a new 9242. Have dual LNB's running into a SW44 which I know won't give me the dual line (5th) needed for the 9242, that ideally I'd like not to run a 2nd line for.

So my question, can I replace my dual LNB's with a DP quad LNB, run 1 line directly to my 9242 with a DP Plus Seperator and run two lines to my SW44 for the other 3 receivers? Make sense or is my confusion showing?

Um, no, you can't do that. However, have a look in the installation threads. There are several examples of how to connect greater than four tuners. http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=79152

You can do it with two SW44 switches (or one SW44 and SW44A): http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=79134

Or a Single DPP44 switch http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=79131

-Mike

So a DPP44 is what I'll be looking for and replacing my SW44 with. Question when used with a DP Pro Quad. Needing to run two lines run to the DPP44, could I run one straight from the quad to the 9242 with a DP Plus Seperator at the receiver to split to the two tuners, or do I need to combine two from the DPP44 and then split that line with a DP Plus Seperator at the receiver. Trying to figure the math and the total lines available (and those available for the future). Trying to do the modifications without running an additional line to the 9242, and keep as clean as possible the install. Thx.

The DPP separator can only connect to DPP capable LNBF's and switches. The quad is Dish Pro only.

-Mike

So a DPP44 is what I'll be looking for and replacing my SW44 with. Question when used with a DP Pro Quad. Needing to run two lines run to the DPP44, could I run one straight from the quad to the 9242 with a DP Plus Seperator at the receiver to split to the two tuners, or do I need to combine two from the DPP44 and then split that line with a DP Plus Seperator at the receiver. Trying to figure the math and the total lines available (and those available for the future). Trying to do the modifications without running an additional line to the 9242, and keep as clean as possible the install. Thx.
2 lines from DPP LNBF to DPP44, then 1 line to the 9242 which then gets a DPP seperator behind it giving 2 outputs, run 1 to each Tuner input.

Leaves you with 3 ports open on the DPP44 for other receivers.

Thx. Confused a DP with a DPP (forgot the plus).

You can actually use DP single/dual, DP twin, DP quad and DPP twin into a DPP44 switch.

Yes thats correct, a DP LNBF infront of a DPP switch gives all the same advantages of DPP. A DP switch after a DPP LNBF removes the DPP advantages.

It is also worth noting that if you have a DPP44, you can cascade 2 more switch's after it without bringing more lines from outside, to a Max of 12 DPP outputs. You can also go DPP44 to DP34, the DP34 will work just fine but will not have the DPP advantages.....

Did that make sense......lol

Any advantage / disadvantage to using a DPP LNB over a DP. If using a DP quad, would it give me an additional line to use w/o the DPP44? Assume the ability to use a seperator then a function of the switch and not the LNB. Other posts imply to get the benefits from the DPP44, you new a plus LNB.

Yes thats correct, a DP LNBF infront of a DPP switch gives all the same advantages of DPP. A DP switch after a DPP LNBF removes the DPP advantages.

It is also worth noting that if you have a DPP44, you can cascade 2 more switch's after it without bringing more lines from outside, to a Max of 12 DPP outputs. You can also go DPP44 to DP34, the DP34 will work just fine but will not have the DPP advantages.....

Did that make sense......lol
Thx for the clarification. Cascading the easiest to grow beyond 4 receivers.

Any advantage / disadvantage to using a DPP LNB over a DP. If using a DP quad, would it give me an additional line to use w/o the DPP44? Assume the ability to use a seperator then a function of the switch and not the LNB. Other posts imply to get the benefits from the DPP44, you new a plus LNB.
There is no advantage of DP single/dual, DP twin and DPP twin if using a DPP44 switch. There is a slight advantage using a DP quad because it has 4 outputs and the DPP44 only needs two of these leaving two extra outputs. These however are regular DP outputs and you can't use a separtor on those two.

There is no advantage of DP single/dual, DP twin and DPP twin if using a DPP44 switch. There is a slight advantage using a DP quad because it has 4 outputs and the DPP44 only needs two of these leaving two extra outputs. These however are regular DP outputs and you can't use a separtor on those two.

I'm not sure OpenSpace's question was completely answered if the Quad he is referring to is a DPP Quad LNB (if such a thing exists) v. a DP Quad LNB. If it is a DP Quad, it sounds as if he could have up to six outputs using a DPP44: four from the DPP44 and two directly from the DP Quad LNB, with separators usable on the four outputs from the DPP44. If it is DPP quad, he could have six outputs, with separators usable on all six.

Is this correct?

I don't think a DPP Quad exists, not last time I checked anyway. There is a DPP Twin.

-Mike

No taxtwit that is not correct. There is no such thing as DPP quad. I am pretty sure I answered his question.

Opted for a DishPro Plus Twin (DPP Twin) and a DPP44 to give me the 4 lines off the switch (1 I'll use a seperator on for the dual tuner unit). Was thinking the DishPro Quad (DP Quad) as running 2 line to the switch, I could then have had 2 (single tuner) lines available for future use (with the headache of running additional line directly from the dish outside).

Opting for the twin, if needing to expand beyond 4 locations (and could always do with the 9242 without doing anything outside), Ill cascade to another DPP44 to expand - neater, indoors (garage), and donèt need to run any further lines from the dish. Like the idea of cleaning up the lines now running from 2 lnbs through a SW44 4 lines now, to only requiring 2.

Have the DPP twin and DPP44 set-up (swapping out dual LNB's and SW44) and have 3 of the 4 receivers - the 9292 with seperator even working with both tuners :-) but am having the line with the power injector (output 1) receiving only 1 sat (91). It is a 3100.

Check Switch (doing 1 of 1 test) finds:
Dish Input 1
Sat 91
Transp ALL
Device FEED
..with a warning only 1 satellite was found.

All others (including another 3100) all work fne and check switch finds both satellites. Replaced the line between the injector and the DPP44 with the line from the injector the originial that had no problems previous.

Any ideas as to what to look at or suggestion?

Forget my question - figured it out. Replaced two screw on connections with a few compression fittings at the grounding block, and everthing is now fine. Guess the DPP LNB and DPP44 are more sensistive to loss than the old SW44 with legacy LNB's.

I've got a working system with 2 LNBFs (82/91) with dual RG6 for both. These feed to an SW44. From the SW44 I have a single RG6 each to 2 x 3100s and a 9242. The 9242 works OK as long as the family doesn't spark up a conflicting PVR schedule.

My question.

Can I swap out the SW44 with a DPP44 and a separator to serve my 9242?

Thanks guys!

You will need to get dishpro lnbs, (2) duals with one line from each going to the dpp44 or a dp/dpp twin lnb with one line from each out put going to the dpp44.

northsatuser,

Please read the very first post for your options with the DPP44 switch.

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