: The DPP44 switch
2011-01-17, 10:09 AM
My understanding and I admit it has been a long time since I used a Legacy Quad is that they are powered by the Receivers and need no Power Inserters.
Ask your neighbor if HE has a Power Inserter and as you have tried his Quad on your Dish, try your Quad on his Dish, at least then you will know if yours works.
Also see how many receivers he has connected, maybe it requires power from more than 1 receiver to work but I doubt it.
EDIT: Why are you considering the Quad.? Why not look at another alternative, let me know what models and how many of each and I might be able to point you in a better direction.
2011-01-17, 10:22 AM
I was planning on setting up multiple tv's in the home, and wanted to avoid running less cables. So if I went out and got a sw44 switch and ran 2 single lnb's 1 for 91 and 1 for 82 I could get what I want correct? I do have at home 2 single dual lnb's where I could run 4 lines. My only problem is that I would have to connect my sw44 switch in my attic thats where all my cables meet. My only other question is does the sw44 have to be pluged in to hydro?? They have a SW44 switch at my local source for 75 bucks is that to expensive?
2011-01-17, 10:47 AM
The Attic if great for the SW44, it keeps it away from the weather. Yes it requires Power but that can be fed from behind any one of the receivers using the Power Inserter. The only stipulation is, that Power Inserter MUST be on the line that feeds for Output Port #1 at the SW44.
Check this out;
$75 is pretty good, they are $150 from Bell, plus in the event of a failure down the road, it will be MUCH easier to get another SW44 that a Legacy Quad LNBF.
2011-01-17, 11:46 AM
The legacy quad does not need a power inserter. Did you run a check switch Stoich when trying the legacy quad?
2011-01-17, 12:01 PM
Thanks for the diagram Pinza. The only problem for me is I dont have a cable going back from my receiver to the sw44 so I could plug in the inserter.
Peano, Yes I did a chack switch but nothing comes up because I have no signal. I do need a signal first so that the check switch would work right??
Not sure what to do with this quad LNB????? I give up trying to get it to work.
2011-01-17, 12:17 PM
never mind on my last comment wasn't reading diagram properly. Can i install the sw44 switch outside if I want too?
2011-01-17, 12:48 PM
Sure, they are made for mounting at the Dish.
I used different colored cables from each LNBF for clarity.
2011-01-26, 01:54 AM
Pinza that back plate isn't designed to hold SW44!!! It's for two SW21s brother!!! The SW44 is HEAVY and to hold it like that with one screw is HAYWIRE and POOR IMHO!!! Why would anyone place the SW44 at the dish location anyway in the first place!!!
2011-01-26, 02:05 AM
I also have to add that the diagram is also wrong in terms of what port is what... the have the ports to LNBs and receivers backwards (left to right) as well as where port 1 is relative to the ground screw (up to down)... READ THE STICKER/LABEL and not that HORRIBLE diagram!!!
That STUPID HORRIBLE dyslexic diagram has screw many a many installers... ROTFL
PS I guess back in the factory in China the decided to orientate the stickers/labels upside down/right side up on different revisions? It's weird as they seem to want the heat to rise up in a certain orientation that if stickered like that diagram would be backwards... STRANGE
2011-01-26, 07:38 PM
Pinza that back plate isn't designed to hold SW44!!!
Actually that backplate is the EXACT one supplied by Bell TV for mounting an SW44 at the Dish. I know you do not have X-Ray eyes but there is a 2nd screw at the top right holding the SW44 quite firmly on the bracket.
It's for two SW21s brother!!!
No the bracket for 2 x SW21's is much longer.
2011-02-12, 06:08 PM
I have updated all my stuff...need some info.
I have 6 receivers....all HD now.
My DPP44 switch can be cascaded ? all the 4 ports are used. If so is there a diagram for this?
I will be running 2-9242...and 4- 9241....total 6 receivers.
I have all the stuff needed including the seperators...Im guessing I will need another DPP44 switch? so that I can add the next two 9241's.
Thanks a bunch
2011-02-12, 06:31 PM
On the DPP Switch you have Inputs, Outputs and ones marked to additional switch, just connect 1 & 2 to the Inputs of the next DPP44 and you are away.
If I remember correctly, there is even a diagram on the DPP44 itself.
Yes you can cascade up to three is what they say. Just put coax utilizing the same numbered input ports you are using on first DPP44 switch to the ports on the right side where is says "To Additional Switch", those coax cables then go to the input side of the second switch. You still need to use another power inserter on the first output port of the second switch just like you do with the first switch.
Or do as Pinza says lol, and he is right there is a diagram right on the switch as well.
I moved in Nov of last year and I explained to the installer that I had a DPP 44 & the corresponding LNB. He told me at that time that they (Vu Point) had just started to carry the DPP LNB's. He didnt understand however why they didnt have the DPP seperator of the DPP Switch. Nevertheless it saved me a trip back up on the roof to swap it out once he left.
I wanted to pass this along to those of you thinking about going this route.
As an FYI... I have the following
1 - DPP44 (primary)- Feeding 4 TV's
1 - DPP44 (cascaded from primary switch) - Feeding 3 TV's
2011-03-14, 03:26 PM
You can install up to 12 9241 dual tuner (HD PVR) receivers with only one cable per receiver by using a DDP LNBF, 3x DPP 44 switches trunked together, 12 DPP separators and 1 dish 51cm with only 2 cables from the dish to the switches.
I don't know what Bell is waiting to put these switches availlable to customers in canada.
Instead, Bell choosed to bring a DPP quad LNBF and are on their way to Canada but limited to 4 output and we still need 4 cables from the dish.
If customer want more than 4 9241 receivers we will need to switch to legacy technology and pass from 1 cable per receiver to 2 cables per receivers and will also require an additionnal dish and more cables outside.
Bell like to complicate things...
2011-03-14, 04:22 PM
@2CaP, the DPP Separator was made available at the same time at the DPP Twin LNBF. Bell still do not intend to provide a DPP switch, they are as DaveX1 says, bringing in a DPP Quad LNBF.
2011-03-17, 08:28 AM
Bell doesn't want to provide DPP44 because they are affraid of the power supply. A lot of service calls has been generated by the power supply/power inserter on the sw44. But the DPP44 has a different power inserter and the cable is built in. Only the power cable can be disconnected from the electrical outlet.
2011-03-17, 11:00 AM
Wait, a DPP Qaud LNBF exists?
Wait, a DPP Qaud LNBF exists?
Not yet, neither does MPEG4 streams for Bell TV & the 9252 receiver...
As the popular saying goes: "soon" :rolleyes:
2011-03-17, 02:36 PM
I meant does a DPP quad exist at all? I've never heard of one and a quick search online only finds a DP Quad.