: SW44 switch discussion
slik_1967 2008-03-26, 02:23 PM On the picture on one of the earlier posts, it shows 2 specific outputs on the SW44 going to the dual tuner. Does it have to be set this way, or can you pick any 2 outputs to go to the dual tuner? I have 1 HD PVR, 1 HD receiver, and 1 SD receiver. Thanks.
Stan Dev 2008-03-26, 02:30 PM Any pair of SW44 outputs can be used to feed a dual-tuner receiver.
dosborne 2008-03-26, 03:12 PM The only important item is to ensure the power inserter is connected to the proper port for the switch (usually port #1, but some models use a different port). Other than that, an output is an output and it makes no difference what type or model IRD you have connected.
kingston 2008-03-26, 04:57 PM Last week I had a new SW44 not work properly with my 9242, it was always acting up and showing switch errors, so while in warranty an installer came and he stated:
91 MUST go to 1a and 1b.
82 MUST go to 2a and 2b.
and NOT:
82 to 1a and 1b
91 to 2a and 2b
Is this true? is it just for some receivers like my 9242?
The instructions I have do not specify this at all. The icon on the label at least gives the impression to not put 91 in 1a and 82 in 1b etc.
Also I'm tired of the CHECKSWITCH error showing when the satellite isn't seen due to wet snow on the dish. Someone would think that the switch is the problem before finally clearing the snow on the dish.
dosborne 2008-03-27, 07:26 AM Is this true? is it just for some receivers like my 9242?
As long as both even and odd from one sat feed into the "1" and odd and even from the other sat feed into "2" and the power inserter is on the correct port then that is all you need. It does not HAVE to be 91 on 1 and 82 on 2 but there is no reason it can't be.
If for some reason yours works better that way, then go with it.
I agree with dosborne. Usually check switch errors are in order: a connector, the line, the lnb, the switch, the receiver.
pvr5100 2008-03-31, 10:46 PM A moderator previously said on Feb 22 2008:
citation/
**It looks like you actually can use the SW44 switch with only one satellite with 2 lines to output 4 lines.**
For anyone looking to futureproof but with no need of 82 programming at present this may be important.
/citation
Can someone give more details on this kind of setup. I have a standard single dual output LNBF dish and would like to feed my 9242 and 4100 receivers. Is it just basically sending the 2 outputs from the single LNBF into the SW44 on inputs 1A+1B. Than connect the 9242 via the SW44 output #1+#2 and the 4100 on output #3? Is that all? Or must I use splitters to have the 2 outputs of the LNBF feed the 4 inputs of the SW44?
Will the dual tuner function work in this setup? I really don’t want to install 2 LNBF for having an extra Sat82 signal I will not use and also have 4 wires come out of the dish feeding the switch.
Right now I have both receivers directly connected to an output of the dish. However, because of this, the 9242 does not have a cable connected on Sat2 and I presume this is why the 2nd tuner does not work. All I want is to have both receivers working on Sat91 and use the dual tuner function of the 9242.
pvr5100 ,
yes thats it. 2 lines into the SW44 switch and then you will have 4 outputs. It will work the same as a SW24/34 switch.
pvr5100 2008-04-02, 01:48 PM Thanks Q, after searching and searching, you confirmed what i needed to know. You saved me from buying at least 100 feet of cabling plus the hassle of changing the dish from a dual LNBF to 2 dual LNBF :D I now can use my 9242 with dual tuner function without problems.
When the time comes, THEN I will add the 2 other cables and the extra LNBF to get the HD programming. Thank you so much Q.
merve04 2008-04-11, 08:02 PM Couldnt panel just get 2 Powerpass splitters and hook up his 2 outputs from the lnb and feed four lines to the sw44?? Doesnt quite sound right to me.. but hey you never know what might work.
merve04,
splitters can only be used to feed 2 SW44's which is in the cascading S44's option (http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=79134).
merve04 2008-04-11, 10:16 PM Why wouldnt this work??
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z118/merve04/sw44_hi-frequency.jpg
If it did work it would only output from one satellite therefore inputting 2 lines into 1A and 1B from the same lnb would yield the same results without using the splitters at all.
merve04 2008-04-12, 10:11 AM but will it output 4 lines?? or 2?
If you input 2 lines from same lnb into the SW44 it will basically be the same as a SW24 switch. Two lines in, Four lines out.
merve04 2008-04-12, 06:23 PM If you input 2 lines from same lnb into the SW44 it will basically be the same as a SW24 switch. Two lines in, Four lines out.
oh well I'm sure that all buddy wanted to do, hook up more then two receivers,, but i know where your going with this a sw44 wasnt necessary but the way I look at it,, hes atlease got some hardware that can be usefull to him in the even he does decide to add on 82W.
I was having an issue with the 2nd tuner on my 9200 box. After trying some things I've figured out that whatever receiver is plugged into the power inserter does not work. It will get the error code "015" and never find a signal. So, I figure it could be one of three things. Please let me know which of these three makes the most sense.
1) Something is wrong with the cable attachment of the power inserter
2) Something is wrong with the first output on the SW44 switch, the one labelled "to power inserter".
3) Is there any way that the snowstorm that has resulted in a a foot of snow on my roof has done something to my dish that is causing this? Could it be an issue with one of the four cables coming from the dish into the receiver or do all of those have to be working for any of the switch outputs to work?
All three of the other outputs from the switch work perfectly fine. Thanks in advance for any help that you can provide.
dosborne 2008-04-23, 07:45 AM 1) Yes, possible. Is it installed the correct way? It could be defective, installed incorrectly or have a power supply problem. Incorrectly attahing the power supply is an easy and common mistake. Unlikely though if other units run properly.
2) Also possible, but again unlikely.
3) Nope.
Since your other receiver(s) are working though and I assume correctly detect the SW44 switch and provide access to all channels, the most likely cause is the inserter itself and/or the cable from the inserter to the receiver.
Try:
- a different receiver connected to the power inserter feed
- swap out the inserter (borrow from a friend)
- replace the connector on the cable running from the inserter (ensure the centre core isn't too long or too short)
Depending on the number of tuners/receivers, I'm not sure that you actually need a receiver on port 1 (never tried without) but if you only need 3, then it may be worth a shot.
merve04 2008-04-25, 06:37 PM Ya I read somewheres that the 92xx dont like to be plugged on the output of the power inserter. Move your 92xx to port 2\3\4 and keep a legacy receiver one port 1
Rob_J 2008-04-29, 04:36 PM I just recently lost my signal on my 9200 and 3100. I get a switch error, and have searched this forum and tried many of the suggestions with no luck. With the SW44 attached, I get zero signal strength from either sat. With the switch bypassed, and 1A and 2A connected directly to the 9200, I get full strength on both 91 and 82, but see only limited channels in the guide and cannot view any of them. When I go back and do a switch check I get the following results:
Sat1 : 91, Sat2: 82
Transponder: OK
Reception: verified
Switch: none
Is it safe to assume that it is a switch problem? Even though I still cannot view any channels.
The same thing happens on the other receiver - I can view the guide but not the channels.
Thanks in advance for any help!
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