: SW44 switch discussion


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chadurban
2009-11-20, 04:24 PM
OK, since my last post, here is an update:

My Bell 9241 wasn't working on the secound TV output so since then I have changed the dish, lnb's, all cableing and recently had Bell even send me out a replacement receiver. Changed the receiver and the problem was fixed!

Now, since I started using the new receiver, i have had a different isue. Every week and a half or so, my signal would cut out entirely on both tuners as well as my 5900 in the bedroom. Just shows the looking for signal/transponder screen and doesn't come up.

Now I am able to temorarily fix this (until it goes down again in a week or so), but there seems to be only 1 process that will fix it from every combination I tried. I unplug the 9241 and SW-44 power supply and disconnect the sat input line 1, then at the Sw-44 switch, I use a joiner to bypass the switch and create a direct line from the dish #1 LNB output to the cable that leads to the 9241 #1 line in. Next I hook this direct line from the dish to the #1 input on the 9241 and plug in. Signal comes back on. From there I unplug everything again, hook it all back up to normal, plug in and turn everything on. The 9241 is back to normal with signal as is the 5900 in the bedroom. It looks like this is the only thing I can do to reset everything. Everything else I try doesn't seem to reset the system.

It would seem to be an issue with the new 9241 receiver at first but then why would the 5900 go down? Anyone come across this issue before? Just want to know before I put out the $$ for a new SW-44 switch and power supply? The receiver is new from Bell and i can't think of what it might be? Any ideas anyone, this thing has been driving me crazy for months!!

Pinza
2009-11-20, 04:29 PM
I am more interested in how you did this "magic";

My Bell 9241 wasn't working on the secound TV output so since then I have changed the dish, lnb's, all cableing and recently had Bell even send me out a replacement receiver. Changed the receiver and the problem was fixed!

The 9241 does NOT have a second TV output.......

Why not use the Port #1 output on the SW44 to feed the 5900 and see if that fix's the problem. Move the Power Inserter/Power Supply to the rear of the 5900, of course.

lonnie
2009-11-21, 11:32 AM
you may want to replace all the connectors between the power supply and switch & the switch to lnb cables, 10 connectors in all. even a momentary short circuit can cause the power supply to go into current limiting to prevent damage. if it's not the connectors it might be a bad cable. possibly a staple or screw driven through it or a sharp kink in the cable or squashed flat somewhere.

Sturgis
2009-11-25, 01:24 PM
I undertsand how to hookup the two lines to a PVR, but which line do i use for my single receiver? The powered one or the unpowered one.

dosborne
2009-11-25, 01:44 PM
Any of the outputs from the SW44 can be used as an input to any of your tuners. Only one line requires the power inserter.

Please see the diagram in post #3.

federic2
2009-12-09, 10:15 AM
Hello,

I have recently set up a 9241 receiver using an SW44 switch. Occasionally, however, the signal is unavailable only when I try to view the HD channels. I am unsure if the problem is related to my installation or the fact that the HD channels are being moved to the 1000's.

Please advise. Thanks.

Pinza
2009-12-09, 02:36 PM
What are the signal levels on the 82 degree bird.?

Menu, 6, 1, 1.

federic2
2009-12-12, 08:19 PM
The signal on 82 is zero, but only sometimes.

kandkt
2009-12-12, 09:17 PM
Sounds like an installation issue.

Did you have a signal from the 82 satellite or did you just add an additional LNB for this? If so, did you set the skew angle and re-aim your dish?

The signal on 82 is very strong and you should be receiving near 100% on most transponders.

Starzone
2009-12-12, 10:24 PM
Hi All,

For the last several years i have been using just one LNB with 4 receivers. Now I just decide to purchase my first HD TV and now is planing to get the 6131 HD Receiver. How do I incorprate the Bell 63879 4 way multi-switch when I put in the 2nd LNB? Can somebody tell me what parts I need to get and if they have a diagram on the setup should be would be great.

Sorry in advance for the newbie question.

Thanks

Pinza
2009-12-13, 07:32 AM
Firstly, as this is your first venture into HD Bell TV will carry out a full Upgrade for you free of charge, so that is the easy way.

If you are just going to use the 6131, then you can run 1 line from the second LNBF to the same location as the switch, at that point install an SW21 with 1 input being the new line and the other input being a short jumper from the 4 way switch. The resulting output on the SW21 can now be run to the 6131.

federic2
2009-12-14, 10:16 AM
The 82 signal is often almost 100 %; but sometimes it is 0. I did a switch test the other day when the signal was 0 and the result was "reception error" on satellite input 1, "switch SW21-3SAT" though I'm using an SW44 switch. Why is this problem only occurring intermittently? Could there be a problem with the switch itself, a cable, the receiver?

dosborne
2009-12-14, 10:39 AM
Could there be a problem with the switch itself, a cable, the receiver?Yes.

I would first suspect the connectors on your cables though, followed by the power supply, but other than that, you will have to try and isolate the problem by trying to swap out parts, test them at other locations, etc. Does you lose all signal? Only from 1 sat? Both odd and even?

nushie
2010-01-03, 02:41 PM
I have been reading the various posts of others also having issues... but they all refer to people having 2 satalites.

We only have 1 satalite -with 1hub...... but have recently gotten a sw44 mulit-switch {Dish Net Brand}.. for our 3 recievers.-2700,3100,4100
It is not HD & only gets a signal from 91

Both the switch & power supply are installed inside and approx approx 30 ft from the satalite but on 100ft of cord { we are making them shorter- to see if this solves the problem}

Both lines from the satalite are set into 1A & 1B
The Power incerter is set in to "Reciever In"- on which 1-3100 receiver is hooked. The second & third receiver{ 2700 & 3100} are set in Reciever #2 & #3.

:confused:OUR PROBLEM:confused:

Our problem is that the signal is constantly jumping and desconnecting and being interupted- temporarily unavailable,... then its ok for a few seconds or even a minute and then it disconntects again. This is happening with all 3 recievers.

The wire has been cut back to 1/4" to ensure good secure contact.
We have done the check switch... and it has come up with no switch detected, unknown device, or something 500.

We are wondering if this unit is even able to work for 1 satalite with 1 hub??? or only either with 2 sat's or 1 satalite with 2 hubs????????? Or is the issue with the wire orders and that the signal is jumping between all 3... not being split at the same time to all 3??

Any suggestions or help would be soooooooooo great!!

Pinza
2010-01-03, 02:57 PM
Although the SW44 is mainly used for connecting 2 x LNBF's to 4 receivers, there is no reason it will not work with just 1 x LNBF.

You say;

The Power incerter is set in to "Reciever In"- on which 1-3100 receiver is hooked.

Is this conencted to the Output Port #1 on the Switch.?

Also just curious, why you are using the SW44 when a much cheaper SW24/34 would be just as good and would not require any kind of Power Inserter.?

nushie
2010-01-03, 03:39 PM
Although the SW44 is mainly used for connecting 2 x LNBF's to 4 receivers, there is no reason it will not work with just 1 x LNBF.

You say;



Is this conencted to the Output Port #1 on the Switch.?

Also just curious, why you are using the SW44 when a much cheaper SW24/34 would be just as good and would not require any kind of Power Inserter.?
Yes the inverter is plugged in the "Outport #1"- Then one of the recievers is plugged in to this. Port 2 & 3 have recievers plugged in also.
Strength when it is connected is 100% then drops off to No SAt.

This is the one tht my husband bought.. incase we get HD later i guess

Pinza
2010-01-03, 03:49 PM
Have you run a "Check Switch" on all receivers, since you put the SW44 in the system.?

Also, if you Upgrade to HD, bell would have provided all the hardware FREE of charge to you.... Just an FYI.

nushie
2010-01-03, 04:07 PM
Have you run a "Check Switch" on all receivers, since you put the SW44 in the system.?

Also, if you Upgrade to HD, bell would have provided all the hardware FREE of charge to you.... Just an FYI.
Yes.... we've done a switch check on all 3...and all 3 are all recognizing the sw44.

In re-doing the switch check on all the recievers...2 are ok.... the one that is having issues is the 3100 that is plugged unto #1 off the power inverter.When we do the switch check it recognizes the sw44. We have tried plugging this one in the #4 port... but it does the same thing in dropping the signal.

We've had no issues with this reciever until hooking it up to the sw44.

Could it be that we need to put our 4100 in #1 port?

Pinza
2010-01-03, 04:21 PM
NO, there should be no difference.

If you are still having problems, try running a "Check Switch" with NO cable at the rear. This will force the receiver back to its' default setting, then run the "Check Switch" again.

nushie
2010-01-03, 04:29 PM
NO, there should be no difference.

If you are still having problems, try running a "Check Switch" with NO cable at the rear. This will force the receiver back to its' default setting, then run the "Check Switch" again.
Is this the same as a setting the factory Default? Hubbie is trying it how. He is also switching 2 of them to opposite locations to see if it might be the cable.

This is all new to us with this switch stuff... so its great to have some help. He'd have given up by now. We were thinking it was the multi-switch... but the other 2 recievers seem ok so far..... just the one is actingu up.