: SW44 switch discussion
kevkwas 2009-06-26, 07:20 PM Could the hookup be wrong on the SW44 switch to the house, that would make all 4 cables work with only 3 receivers hooked up.
Does the power supply need to be hooked to input 1? or does it matter.?
I looked at the diagram in post #3 "dosborne" It looks how mine is hooked up.
Thanks
Pinza 2009-06-26, 10:20 PM The power inserter MUST feed into port #1 on the output side.
If you are only feeding 3 tuners, you only need 3 cables from the SW44, something is odd somewhere.....lol
VuMax 2009-06-27, 01:09 PM Okay, I'm confused about what you're trying to accomplish here. You've stated your installation looks just like the diagram dosborne pointed you to.
The 3rd cable would be going to the bedroom, But the 4th one should be dead but its not.
Why do you think the 4th one should be dead. All 4 inputs to the SW44 are required for it to operate properly. All 4 outputs are active.
If I unhook anyone of the 4 cables coming from the satellite it stops me watching TV.
Again, all 4 cables from the satellite to the SW44 are necessary. If you unhook one, the SW44 will not operate correctly.
Pinza 2009-06-27, 04:18 PM It would be nice to hear from the OP again to see if he has figured it out.
My understanding is that he has 4 cables on the OUTPUT side of the SW44, yet he only has 3 Tuners so 1 cable should be dead somewhere but he says that removing 1 of these 4 cables causes his receivers to not function.
As I say, it does not make sense.
lonnie 2009-06-28, 05:29 PM a common mistake i've seen people do, particularly when the power inserter / power supply is behind the receiver instead of near the switch, is mixing up the cables so that the switch is powered up by a receiver on port # 1 instead of the power inserter. the other receivers may act normally but if he has only 1 receiver misbehaving, it may be the one that is connected to either the power inserter, or port # 1.
Riders83 2009-07-05, 05:58 PM Hi guys I just wanna start off by saying great forum. I would like to know how I can modify my set-up so that I can add a 5th tuner. Currently the satellite is set up just like the picture at the start of this thread with the SW44 switch. I've got 2 4100's and 1 9200 using up the outputs in the switch. We just bought another HDTV and would like to get an HD box for it as well. So I would like to get rid of a 4100 and replace it with another HD dual tuner box. Which of course would mean i would need another output for the extra Tuner we would be adding. Whats the best way to go about doing this??
Pinza 2009-07-05, 06:01 PM Try looking at this thread;
Cascading SW44's.
http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=79134
Riders83 2009-07-05, 06:37 PM Yeah ok I think i'll go with the 4 splitters and the extra SW44. Another question how do I know which outputs to connect my receivers too? Im a little unclear on 82 and 91? Do HD receivers have to be connected to 82 or 91?
Pinza 2009-07-05, 07:12 PM The outputs of the SW44's will each have BOTH 91 & 82 degree signals, therefore it does not matter which ports you use for the receivers.
Hi Folks,
My neighbor is having problems with his Bell setup. Seems to be similar to post #40. He was away for 10 days and came back and no signal. We have had thunder/lightning storms for past 3 days off and on. The setup has worked fine since installation 3yrs ago.
He has dual lnb. Switch appears identical to diagram in post #3. It is attached to the dish outside. Dish is attached very solid. There is no power attached as in diag #3.
He has bypassed the switch and can get a few channels from sat 91 on one TV. cannot get any from sat 82.
He has run check switch several times. I will suggest he disconnect and reconnect lines to the switch and run check switch again. I will also suggest he check the connections at the LNB.
He called Bell and was told service call was 75.00 plus on first call. He called back later to try for phone help and that operator told him there is now no service to this area, Invermere BC.
Is it necessary to have the power inserter hooked into the swtch? Could it be inside the house? Is power necessary?
Does anyone know of a competent XPV tec/installer in the Invermere, BC area?
Thanks
Ed
Pinza 2009-07-08, 03:20 PM The SW44 needs to be powered, so somewhere there is a Power Inserter, find that and you may just find your problem.
Hi Pinza,
Thanks for the reply. Does the inserter have to be attached to the SW44?
Ed
Pinza 2009-07-08, 05:07 PM It is not possible to attach it directly to the SW44.
It will be attached to the RG6 cable from the SW44 Port #1 somewhere between the SW44 and the receiver.
jfmoore 2009-07-17, 08:55 AM I am getting confusing stories from Bell TV regarding adding a 6131 to an existing 9242 installation. I currently have a dish with dual LNB's and 2 coax wires coming into the house from the dish. I have an SW44 switch on the back of the dish with what looks to be 2 connectors in use and 2 more available connectors to run 2 more wires to come into the house.
I want to add a 6131 to my basement setup. The problem that I have is that Bell TV is confusing me on what I exactly need to do to make this work. The sales agent said at first that I need to purchase a 2Ghz splitter and split one of the lines so that I can use one for the 9242 and then share another line between the 9242 and the 6131. I am not sure if that is true. I think that I need to run an additonal line in from the dish and use that for the 6131. When I explained that to her, she said that my SW44 switch would not support doing that and that is why I need the splitter.
I am kind of confused at this point. The 9242 takes 2 lines from the switch to power its 2 tuners. Can I really just split one of the signals? Or do I need to simply run a 3rd line in from the dish?
jfmoore, you just need to run another line from the output side of your SW44 to the 6131, that is all. If you had another single tuner receiver you could also use the 4th output from the SW44 switch to that receiver. It is best practice to never share lines between different satellite receivers.
Pinza 2009-07-17, 09:26 AM Just use either of the 2 spare ports on the SW44 to feed the 6131. It really is that simple.
jfmoore 2009-07-17, 10:28 AM Thanks everyone. That clarifies it for me. I am not sure what Bell was talking about.
r1200rt 2009-07-19, 09:04 AM I recently installed a dish on my garage - trying to install a 9200, that was previously set up and working in the house. i'm using the sw44 swtich that came with the 9200. i've connected one rg6 to 91 and one to 82. i've been able to properly align my dish (using very helpfull suggestions in this thread) so that i get a strong signal lock (on the correct satellite) when i plug the both lines from 91 and 82 into the receiver. So i think that the dish itself is set up OK. My problem is with the SW44 switch. I plug the line from 91 into 1a and the line from 82 into 2a. Unfortunately I only get some channels (others are `temporarily`unavailable). When i run a checkswitch it shows that both 91 and 82 are even and syas that there is a problem with the switch. If i switch the lines around the checkswitch shows both 91 and 82 are odd. Any suggestions to fix? Since I'm using only two lines in total from the dish, does it matter which connector on the LNBF (out of two on each) that I connect to?
highview 2009-07-19, 11:28 AM I am a little surprised I haven't found a discussion on this yet but maybe I am looking in the wrong places. Please excuse any incorrect terminology
I have 2 9241's which requre 2 inputs each (4 total). My dish is mounted about 100' from my home and has 2 lines buried. I do not want to add additional lines into the home.
I do not mind purchasing switching equipment but want to make sure I get the right stuff.
So far, everyting points to a SW44 switch but will one 82 and one 91 output going into the SW44 actiually make 4 combined outputs for my two 9241's?
If so, does anyone have a diagram of this installation?
I have tried a 4x3 multiswitch, power passing diplexers and two SW21's in every possible combination without success.
Any help is appreaciated.
scrooloose 2009-07-19, 12:06 PM The SW44 requires four lines from your dish, so that won't help. The only way to do what you want is to use the DishPro Plus equipment. Have a look at http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=79152 for all the different Bell setups. You need a DPP Twin, or a DPP33 or DPP34 switch setup.
-Mike
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