: Rogers SA 4250HD Owners Discussion thread
2008-05-24, 05:09 PM
Thanks 57, good reading material.
I guess what bothers me is I have the same settings and cables as my previous rental boxes and only now has the issue come up.
2. I am connected to the TV with HDMI and audio via optical cable to the AVR230. ps. also tried digital coax and same issue.
I did go back to Futureshop today and exchanged for two new boxes, let's see what happens in the coming days to see.
2008-05-27, 09:35 PM
Strangely all our 800 channels disappeared in our Rogers today - guide or if you just punch in the channel #.
Is there some reset thing you can do to the box ?
Here's the thread on that topic (800 channels), since it's not 4250 specific. A reboot will not bring them back, they are likely gone forever. Some people never had them.
2008-05-30, 11:31 AM
I suddenly did not get Channel 541 - HDNet. Rogers guy came in last evening and said that while my S?N at 35 db was alright, the signal strength at 35 db was too high and removed an amplifier that was put in by some previous tech guy in the basement. He reduced the strength to 4 db. He also found a fault with the cable from the street box to the side of the house and connected a temporary cable through the tree-top.
All's well for now.
the signal strength at 35 db was too highSure is. How could you even get it that high? Most amps only add 7-10 dB. Are you sure it was that high? (signal strength, not S/N ratio) The max recommended is about 10dB and optimum is usually around zero, as discussed in the following thread:
2008-05-30, 02:27 PM
Yes it was that high when the tech guy showed me on the TV.
2008-06-13, 11:16 AM
1.Ok I've just hooked up the 4250hd vis HDMI and everything works perfect. Only problem I have is that with a HDMI connect my PZ800 can not do a auto channel search. When I hook the cable line only to the plasma it does recognize the channels... What is going on?
2.Is there a way to record what I watch using the 4250HD and some other recordable device on the market other than a PVR from rogers? Has anyone configured this type of system?
1. You need to put in a splitter and connect the cable directly to the TV, not going through the STB. Then you should be able to do your channel scan, although I don't exactly know why you'd want to? Once you've done your channel scan, you'd simply change to the "TV" input and those channels should then be there?
2. Yes, get a DVD Recorder and you can record the analogue channels directly on it or any digital channels via the STB, however, only in SD. If you want HD, you'll need the Rogers HD PVR (SA8300HD).
Here's how to connect a DVD Recorder, it's a big pain if you simply want to timeshift and since it doesn't record HD (although you can record the HD channels letterboxed in SD), I'd recommend the SA8300HD:
There are other ways to record in HD (Firewire, Hauppauge), however, they are not simple, or consistent. See the following thread on that topic:
2008-08-08, 01:13 AM
Does anyone know what the remote code/preset code is for the 4250?
I want to setup my receivers remote to control the 4250.
Very few AVRs can properly control the SA4250HD. Most times people do it the other way around (use the SA remote) to control some of the AVR functions.
Perhaps the following will assist with that.
What is the make/model of your AVR?
2008-08-08, 12:17 PM
Thanks for the link! We'll see how it goes. I've gotten use to my 3808 remote. Anyway, I may have to do what everyone else does.
You could try e-mailing Denon to see if they have a code.
If the AVR remote has a learning function, you could teach the keys you want to use to the AVR remote...
2008-08-11, 09:11 PM
I just recently upgraded my receiver from a non-HDMI-supporting one to the Onkyo TX-SR606, which supports 4 HDMI devices. With this in place, I now route the 4250's HDMI signal through the AVR, then to the TV (as opposed to directly to the TV in my old setup). Ever since doing this, however, I get this sporadic "Copy Protection" message when I change HD channels about the 4250 blocking YPbPr signal. I hit exit on the remote, and everything's fine after that (full HD output, etc). I can't figure out what it is - there are no component video cables attached. Has anyone else come across this, and if so, any solutions? It's not like it results in a critical loss of function or anything, it's just a minor annoyance.
Typical of HDMI connections through some AVRs. Lots of handshake issues as discussed in the following post.
As you have time, check out the following post, useful for those new to the forum:
2008-08-11, 09:16 PM
yeah i get that too occasionally...
2008-08-21, 03:41 PM
Apologies if this is a stupid question, but how will the whole DOCSIS 3.0 standard affect users of the 4250? As I understand it, DOCSIS is more about how (and how much) data gets from rogers to your home, but doesn't affect you, as far as what cable box you own, so users won't notice any difference. Is that correct? I can remember having to upgrade an older modem when Rogers moved to 2.0, so that I could take advantage of increased speed, but would that apply for the recently introduced 4250?
What about Tru2way? I read somewhere on here that Rogers was considering picking it up, but no decision yet. My understanding is that you need new hardware to be able to use the network, once something like that is rolled out. Is that accurate?
I ask, because I'll be picking up either a 4250 or 8300 in the next month or so and I don't particularly want to purchase a paperweight. The $200 price for the 4250 at BestBuy is alright, but spending more than $500 on an HD PVR only to have it become useless, isn't that appealling. I know if I was renting it from Rogers, they'd just swap it out. What about when you own the hardware yourself? I have no doubt that Rogers would say 'Too bad so sad.'...
1. I don't know what DOCSIS has to do with a STB - isn't that only related to a modem, which the 4250 is not? Perhaps others more knowledgeable on that topic can comment.
2. Tru2way has been discussed elsewhere in the forum - a search for that term should find those threads. It's doubtful that this will be picked up very soon.
3. There are more than a million digital STBs out there now on Rogers, so the units may be superceded at some point in the future, however, they will not become paperweights, they will still be able to be used.
2008-08-21, 07:10 PM
If you take a look at the 4250 datasheet on the Cisco website (http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/video/index.html#products), it mentions DOCSIS as it does for all of it's other STB products. For instance, the new 8500 series all implement DOCSIS 2.0, while the 4250 has 1.1. It's got to play a role somehow.
As for Tru2way, I recently read about Moto and Cisco developing converter boxes, so no STB will be rendered useless by SDV. I didn't remember until just now, mind you.
SDV is not Tru2Way, they are totally different. SDV enables cable companies to utilize less bandwidth by only sending "requested" channels the final mile (existing STBs work fine), while T2W allows people to use either no STB or a STB/device from someone other than the cable service provider - like CableCARD, but with two-way communication to allow for VOD, etc.
This is not the thread for those discussions, so if you wish to discuss SDV or T2W, please do so in existing threads on those topics.
2008-09-06, 11:29 AM
I have an SA4250HD STB. Worked fine for 6 months then started to reboot every day at 5:40 PM. Box replaced under warranty but no change. Tried plugging into other outlets including stove but still reboots. Disconnecting the cable prevents the reboot and no problem the next day then comes back the day after. Techs have no idea what causes it. Help!!?