The WUTV analogue signal is still going to be active for another 5 1/2 hours... wait till 11:59pm tonight, then it will just disappear...

The southern directional thing is b/c of flak from the crtc,

The CRTC has nothing to do with technical parameters, or the US/Canada Letters Of Understanding regarding broadcast stations. It is the Spectrum Management Branch of Industry Canada that coordinates these issues with the US FCC.

No one has a mandate to provide cross-border reception of TV signals -- any such reception is 'gravy'.

Sorry if it has been asked in here already - I might've missed it :p

But, since fox is shutting off tonight and doing the "night light" (for a month?)
Will MyTV begin transmitting on 29 early, once the night light phase is over?
It would only make their June process easier, and probably benefit us to the north... :D

WNYO (MyNetwork TV) isn't moving to 29. They applied to do so but the CRTC blocked the request...

WNYO (MyNetwork TV) isn't moving to 29. They applied to do so but the CRTC blocked the request...

Where in FCC CBDS do you see that WNYO applied for 29? I can only see where they were denied reverting to 49.
Oh, and again, the CRTC has nothing to do with international coordination issues. That responsibility belongs to Industry Canada.

WUTV-TV will be ending analog broadcasts in just under a half hour from now. WUTV is part of the nite lite program, which means that after midnight tonight, they will air an info slate on their analog signal (most likely for 30 days).

Where in FCC CBDS do you see that WNYO applied for 29? I can only see where they were denied reverting to 49.
Oh, and again, the CRTC has nothing to do with international coordination issues. That responsibility belongs to Industry Canada.
It was discussed in the Buffalo thread I believe... IC vs. CRTC even though they are different governing bodies are the same in my eyes...

IC vs. CRTC even though they are different governing bodies are the same in my eyes...

If you lived in Ottawa, you'd know that there is a big difference between the department of Industry and the Heritage Ministry, which oversees the CRTC.

What I can see from the FCC site is that, due to coordination issues with Canada over the use of channel 34 for WNYO, WNYO applied to move to channel 29's GrandIsle tower site from their ch. 49 site SE of Buffalo, so they could properly cover Buffalo while maintaining a 20 dB null towards Peterborough. (By the way, CHEX-DT Peterborough would also have to protect ch 49 with a 20 dB null in the direction of Buffalo.)

WUTV has flipped though they are having difficulties playing their infomercial on DTV.

thx for the memories fox 29,u served us well over the years....:(

WNYO (MyNetwork TV) isn't moving to 29. They applied to do so but the CRTC blocked the request...
Ahh, I missed that bit of news.

As for the shutdown, they got their message up after like 5-10 mins. It started off with frozen frames, some static, a lovely green static with informercial audio, and then finally the infomercial thing.
It looks like they spent quite a bit on making that piece of video.. perhaps too much for what they got :p

WNGS 7 Buffalo, WHEC 10 and WHAM 13 Rochester, WWNY 7 Watertown.

Only WWNY will be switching tonight.
I have a CM2441, which from my understanding is only good for UHF. Does this mean once the switch over happens, many stations will be moving to VHF and I will lose this channels?

I have a CM2441, which from my understanding is only good for UHF. Does this mean once the switch over happens, many stations will be moving to VHF and I will lose this channels?
If I understand the plan correctly, in Buffalo, Only WNGS 7 will be VHF, June 2009. In Toronto, Only CFTO 9 will be VHF, Sept 2011.

I saw Fox 29 change from reg. programming to the how-to DTV infomercial... it looked as though it took them a moment or two to patch the infomercial source in.

I thought it would just go to static, but I imagine the infomercial reduces the amount of phone calls to their switchboard.

I have a CM2441, which from my understanding is only good for UHF. Does this mean once the switch over happens, many stations will be moving to VHF and I will lose this channels?
It really depends on how well your CM4221 pulls in channel 9 at your location, and how strong the signal is in your area.

I use the CM 4221, yet I still can get analog CFTO, channel 9 (at -12 dBi), if I need to. Not great but watchable: rabbit ears would better for me. See the bottom of this page (http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ANTENNAS/comparing.html) at HDTVprimer, which talks about VHF reception with a UHF antenna.

How that will translate into digital reception (much lower power level) in Sept. 2011, is yet to be determined. Remember with high-powered analogue transmitters turned off at that point, the reception of all stations may change dramatically.

Many people will need to tweak their set-up, others especially those with a CM4228, may be fine. Unless you watch a lot of WNGS, or Rochester stations, there's not much point in worrying about it until then. :)YMMV.

Cheers

If I understand the plan correctly, in Buffalo, Only WNGS 7 will be VHF, June 2009. In Toronto, Only CFTO 9 will be VHF, Sept 2011.


But don't forget that CHCH Hamilton reverts to 11, CKVR Barrie will be on 10, Peterborough CHEX reverts to 12, and Toronto gets a new VHF-Hi allotment on 8. Also, Kitchener CTV reverts to 13, and Global Paris reverts to 6.

Yep, unless a channel allotment revision is given that has a purpose of phasing out VHF-Hi, those who have installed UHF only antennas will have to come up with new solutions in a few years if they want to get all the stations.

I've heard the stance that wutv is more difficult to get in digital than analog, something to do with being southern directional, but according to an FCC report/map, the digital coverage area is greater/larger than the analog coverage area, if not very similar- so it would seem that based on this FCC report, wutv digital should be easier to get than the analog signal. This seems contrary to personal reporting that wutv analog is easier to get than digital. Why the contradiction between the FCC report and real experiences? Is wutv yet to increase it's digital power?

see maps: http://www.fcc.gov/dtv/markets/maps_report1/Buffalo_NY.pdf

(wutv map is near the end page)

thats a great question.i was hoping their digital signal would improve as i watch fox 29 for nascar,mlb,nfl,and of course the comedies they provide at dinner time.my antenna can detect a signal,but it isnt strong enough to grab hold of it.then again,todays weather might have something to do with it.i hope when the better weather comes things will be different,but from reading these posts,seems like fox 29 is either hit or miss.

The analog signal wasn't directional to the south, the digital signal is, thats why its harder...