: Samsung (LNT4061), Sharp Aquos (LC42D64U), LG (42LB5D), or Sony Bravia (KDL40V3000)


Leechasd
2007-12-11, 04:31 AM
Samsung 40" 1080p (LNT4061)
http://www.samsung.com/ca/products/tv/lcd/lnt4061fxxac.asp?page=Specifications

Sharp Aquos 1080p 42" (LC42D64U)
http://www.sharp.ca/products/index.asp?cat=30&id=717&mod=specs&f=

LG 42" 1080p (42LB5D)
http://us.lge.com/products/model/detail/tv|audio|video___42LB5D__30-47.jhtml
http://us.lge.com/download/product/file/1000002392/h_42lb5d.pdf

Sony Bravia 1080p 40" (KDL40V3000)
http://www.sonystyle.ca/commerce/servlet/ProductDetailDisplay?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10001&productId=1003862&navigationPath=32050n100188

Planning on buying and going into HDTV soon so I want to future proof myself and was wondering what HDTV would you guys suggest between these three? They are very simlar.

1. Samsung 40"
- 8ms response time
- No NTSC tuner
+ 550 cd/m2 brightness but no given TC stated
+ 178 view angle

2. Sony Bravia 40"
+ Higher DC of 13k but we are focusing more on TC
- 8ms response time
- No NTSC tuner
- Only 450 cd/m2
+ 178 view angle

3. Sharp Aquos 42"
+ Higher TC of 2k
+ 4ms response time
+ 2" larger than our counterparts
- Only 450 cd/m2
- 176 view angle

4. LG 42"
+ 500 cd/m2 brightness (inbetween the 450 and 550)
+ 5ms response time
+ 2" larger than our counterparts
+ 178 view angle

Those are my points of comparison so far.

What I'm looking for is which HDTV brings out the best in console gaming in general. I heard some have gaming modes or something but wasn't too sure. I want a vibrant colors and as good a quality as possible. I also watch HDTV with shaw on it but not a whole lot of sports but on occasion.

rfielder
2007-12-11, 10:05 AM
I have the Samsung LN-T4061F, and it does have NTSC and ATSC tuners. I have Rogers analogue cable attached to the NTSC, and watch TV from it. Not great, but SD is very watchable, and is better than it was on my ancient Sanyo 27" tube.

Also, having read reviews of the 4061 in Consumer Reports, I have to say that I disagree with their view angle. Consumer Reports says that the 4061 shows fall off as you move off axis. However, I see no degredation of the image when I move around the room, right to the extremes.

I can't comment on the others, just wanted to correct the minor error in your specs for the 4061.

fufaso
2007-12-11, 12:29 PM
I also have the LNT4061 and love it. One thing to look at is the number of hdmi ports (which this tv has 3). Didn't think they would get used up as fast as they did.

So far I absolutely love this tv.

Leechasd
2007-12-11, 05:30 PM
Dam... funny how I can't edit my own thread. Anywho, if you guys all got the Sammy I guess I'll go for it too. I heard it has nice colors and has game mode as well. Only problem I have was that it was using 8bit engine and not the 10bit which most of the other tv's have for color :/

If any of you play 360 or ps3 how does the images look? I mean 8ms is abit high for gaming but I could be wrong. Playing guitard hero 3 would probably show it's ghost/lag effect on the LCD I guess?

Also, most HDTV's nowadays have 3 HDMI's although I dunno if it's 1.3 or whatnot.

polaris
2007-12-12, 09:34 PM
I have a larger version of this TV, not sure if its the same in terms of performance but its in the model range. I game on it and I see no motion trails or anything of that nature.

Leechasd
2007-12-13, 12:45 AM
Thanks Polaris and everyone else. I'll pick myself up a Sammy then. It was either this or the Bravia which had very similar features but the plus on Bravia's 10bit engine.

rfielder
2007-12-13, 10:05 AM
Thanks Polaris and everyone else. I'll pick myself up a Sammy then. It was either this or the Bravia which had very similar features but the plus on Bravia's 10bit engine.
Check out FS this week, the LN-T4061F is at a very, very good price, and you get price protection that covers Boxing Day.

Related, but I don't want to hijack the discussion - FS usually does 30 day price protection. From November on, they were giving that protection until Jan 8/08. Has that changed, now that the 30 days go beyond Jan 8? Are they back to 30 days?

testikoff
2007-12-13, 11:36 AM
I looked at KDL40V3000 about 10 days ago and the set was pretty impressive. No banding or clouding issues, 1920x1080p/60 support over RGB (PC input), piano gloss black bezel - solid performer with fancy looks IMO. Great picture quality (played back some 1080p trailers from Apple off of my laptop). Had some bad encounters with Sharp LC-42D64U, so would definitely go with Sony here (Samsung 4061 may be fine too; LG - nah, would pass). Just my 2 bits...

rfielder
2007-12-13, 04:10 PM
Check out FS this week, the LN-T4061F is at a very, very good price, and you get price protection that covers Boxing Day.
OK, I am confused. I got an email from the FS price monitoring utility that the LN-T4061F price was lower than is showing online.

Perhaps the software got confused by the F&F sale?

In any case, the price showing on the web site is not bad, but it not as low as it has been recently. Sorry if my message was based on inaccurate data.

Leechasd
2007-12-13, 06:45 PM
Well it's a choice between the Sammy 40 or the Bravia 40. Both sport the Game mode function =3. Only difference that sets the Bravia and Sammy apart is:

Samsung 40"
+550 brightness
-8 bit processor engine

Bravia 40"
+16k DC though not really important. TC is what you would look at.
+10 bit processor engine
-450 brightness

I think the added brightness to the sammy makes there pictures more vibrant? I'm not sure but it could be because when I checked it out the other day the colors seem more finer as in a darker sense but I'll check it out again today to make sure.

Since testikoff looked at the Bravia, you guys should check out there surround. See which one sounds better with SRS Surround on activated for the Sammy and the S-Force™ Front Surround for the Bravia to see which one has more of an virtual surround feeling.

Rouge21
2007-12-22, 10:05 PM
I purchased the Samsung LNT4061 this afternoon from FS. I went in leaning towards the Toshiba Regza 40RF350U but didnt like the noticeable thickness of this unit and the corresponding increase in weight (my intention is to wall-mount). I like the easy availability of the HDMI slot on the side of the Samsung.

iamkalive
2008-01-11, 06:19 AM
i am thinking of getting either the sony 40v3000 or the samsung 4061.. samsung looks amazing but i heard the blacks and whites are enhanced on the tv so they are faker and leave out less detail as compared to the sony. when watching i see ghosting/misty image in the sony, but this maybe becuase of the channel and source? the sony has higher dynamic contrast which means jackshit apparantly. you are supposed to look at true contrast ratio. i think the sony states 2000:1, but there is nothing for the samsung.. i will be also getting a ps3. so i will have blu-ray. naturally you would imagin that the sony would go best with the bluray and ps3, but i have heard that there was ghosting going on and blurriness.. the samsung just look soo much more crisp and sharp. i am assuming its all in the settings and how you play around with them..but in most experiences the samsung just looks so much more crisp, and the sonys seem more misty.. how have your experiences been with it??

Zaheer
2008-01-14, 10:47 PM
After alot of deliberation & spending time at the stores - I just ordered the Samsung LNT4061...came down to the picture quality and size that fits the space.

Lucky that BB has a deal on them right now - 1499 (and they kick in a Samsung Home Theatre System at no charge).

Let the fun begin. :)

sandyr
2008-01-25, 02:01 PM
Hi,

Just bought a 42 inch LG 42LB9D from Best Buy canada for 1699 $ with the tube trade in.

The tv has excellant picture quality and sound. But it seems to make a high pitch noise irrespective of the channel I tune to.

Any one has any ideas what this problem would be?

Is the price too high to pay for a 120 hz or should I return this and get the 47LB5D for almost the same price?

opinions appreciated. thanks.

hdnewbie888
2008-01-26, 06:20 AM
Hi all, First thing first.......excellent site, lots of info. I'm glad to be part of it.
I need suggestions on this. I bought this Toshiba 42HL117 from FS, apparently it's one of those exclusive tv. It's not even in any of their Toshiba website, Can. or US. I called Toshiba Can. and they told me it was one of the model bought from the US from FS and sold it Can, so I email Toshiba US and said they never had this model before. I was very upset cause I can't find any reviews on this model. I called Toshiba Can. again and another rep. said it was 42HL167 Regza in a different caseing. I'm getting confused on this tv.
I'm wondering if I should bring this back? I was leading towards Sharp Aquos or LG. Any info will help me. I was thinking of Sharp LC42D72U or LC42D64U?
and Lg 42LB5D? Thank you

mac dude
2008-05-14, 06:02 PM
Hi,

Two things:

1. I'm looking to buy a Samsung LCD TV. Want to hook up Apple TV (to send music to stereo, pictures to TV, and eventually shows and movies - I have an iTunes USA account) and a PS3 to it, and my Bell ExpressVU 5900 that I own.

Two models I'm looking at - same price right now at a particular retailer:

LN40A550
LNT4061

Am I crazy or is the LN40A550 a better TV? The LNT4061 has a "higher regular price" online but is on sale.

Specs (according to the retailer's site):

-LN40A550 has a higher refresh rate at 5 ms vs 8
-LN40A550 only can show 480p / 720p / 1080p versus the other can show 480i/480p/720p/960p/1080i/1080p - is this a problem for my 5900?
-LN40A550 is Dynamic Contrast Ratio 30000:1 vs 10000:1, that's better, right?

Anything else I should look at in a TV?

2nd thing - Do you think Bell will EVER have an upgrade so I can get a HD receiver with PVR and trade my 5900 (I bought) in? My brother recently got an HDTV and Rogers gave him an HD box free for 6 months. Won't Bell do anything for me?
Do I have any other options - like buy a 6--- series tuner and a separate PVR?
I'm thinking of getting an HD receiver but not if it costs me 600 - 700 bucks, and I want HD PVR functionality. Otherwise I'll sit firm with my 5900 until something comes out.

57
2008-05-14, 07:12 PM
LN40A550 only can show 480p / 720p / 1080p versus the other can show 480i/480p/720p/960p/1080i/1080p - is this a problem for my 5900?Check out the following thread regarding incoming formats and native formats

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=73528

I don't know of any TVs that can't accept 480i - for example via the composite or S-video connection, but I guess they can exist... I know that Samsungs do not accept 480i via HDMI, but that's a different matter.

datacat
2008-05-14, 10:53 PM
First off, I'm new to the whole LCD/HDTV experience so this isn't an expert opinion by any means.

I picked up the 4061F on an impulse buy. I was initially going to buy an Insignia 40" LCD for $999 (which I'm told is made by Samsung) the actual chassis looks almost idential BTW. After spending an hour in FS and looking at different models in the same price range, I was hooked on the Samsung.

I normally research everything I buy before purchase but as I said this was an impulse buy and a very good one at that. I've spent the past couple weeks reading reviews and comparing other 40" LCD's. The 4061F is by far the best choice, at least for my needs. It takes some time to calibrate as does any LCD/HDTV but I'm really pleased with it. The only gripe is that I want to know what the true contrast is but specs or Samsung support could not tell me.

The dynamic contrast is 10000:1 which BTW means nothing. I wish I could tell you what the true contrast is but I've yet to find that info. If you compared the 30000:1 with the 10000:1 side by side you would see the blacks are darker and more crisp but with proper calibration the 4061F still looks great. I guess it just depends what you're willing to spend but I definately recommend the 4061F.

If I can be of more help, let me know. Good luck

mac dude
2008-05-15, 12:48 PM
57,

Thanks for that informative post. Yes, both TV's will accept the same formats (all of them), so I'm good there.

I've seen the price of the 4061 fluctuate a lot, but don't see people talking alot about the LN40A550 - and was just wondering why. Find it interesting Samsung offers two LCD TV's at pretty much the same price point - and wanted to get some opinions before I put down my money on one.

Any help anyone could provide would be appreciated.