: Transport Canada: 7 in 10 admit to speeding
Ruthless82 2007-11-12, 04:47 PM Q, passing on the right is considered more dangerous than passing on the left. If there are 2 lanes open I shouldn't have to pass on the right, that person should understand that it is their responsibility to move over.
Tezster 2007-11-12, 05:06 PM I agree with Ruthless.
Obviously nothing excuses tailgating... I hate it with a passion and don't understand why some drivers do it, regardless of whether they think they're justified or not based on the circumstances. But at the same time, the left hand lane is NOT for slow drivers. If you can't keep up with the flow of traffic, then move over to the right, instead of forcing all the cars to go around you.
It's on the driver's handbook, it's taught in driving lessons and it's marked during road tests. Admittedly, there are regulations or rules that aren't practical to adhere to in real driving conditions - this isn't one of them.
A little driving etiquette and consideration goes a long way towards making our roads safer.
nfitz 2007-11-12, 06:10 PM To tap your brakes to get a tailgater to bake off a little is very much illegal.Perhaps, but to merely press the pedal to activate the lights without activating the breaks is something else. :)
Seriously, the key words are "where the other vehicle would not ordinarily do so" Ordinarily the other vehicle would have slowed down earlier ... so in this case, your causing the other vehicle to slow down where it would have ordinarily done so ... which is the opposite of the contingency mentioned in the law.
Are there any laws about cruising along at speed with no variances with your brake lights going off every 15 seconds? Some people just seem to drive that way - their brakes can't last very long.
i'd love to see the speed limit on the 400 series of Highways increased by 20km/hr. I drive from T.O to kingston everyweek. I put cruise on at 118 and I can't count the amount of cars that pass me. hundreds per trip.
asif9t9 2007-11-13, 08:12 AM Since I'm one of the good drivers, it's okay for me to speed.
Ruthless82 2007-11-13, 09:27 AM I'd like to field the argument that speed isn't the problem and that recklessness is.
jacksparrow 2007-11-13, 09:38 AM And you don't think those 2 go hand in hand?
sharpnfuzzy 2007-11-13, 10:14 AM On the 400 series highways I set my cruise control to about 128kph and I'd say it's about a 70-30 split between the cars I pass and the ones that pass me. I've gone through dozens of speed traps and passed many OPP cruisers without a blink.
jacksparrow 2007-11-13, 10:47 AM On the 400 series highways I set my cruise control to about 128kph and I'd say it's about a 70-30 split between the cars I pass and the ones that pass me. I've gone through dozens of speed traps and passed many OPP cruisers without a blink.
That is a sharp decision, 128 on the 400 series is a decent speed. We have done 125 all the way to Kingston and Montreal from the GTA, and we were quite happy at that pace, considering we had a kid at the back
And you don't think those 2 go hand in hand?
I absolutely think they are separate.
jacksparrow: you are implying that speeding is reckless, then you admit to speeding with your child in the car. Seems a bit odd to me. If I'm got the cruise set at 125 in the middle lane of the 407, and I never leave that lane, or speed up or slowdown, how is that reckless?
Personally, on larger city streets, 10 over is not an issue, on the highway (400 series) 25-30 over is pretty standard (when not stuck in traffic), on side streets I ruthlessly follow the limits.
JKL1960 2007-11-13, 01:54 PM I sure don't miss freeway driving these days. It can be a frantic, tension filled experience, even for good drivers. The real danger on freeways is speed differential. If the left lane is doing 150 and the right is doing 90 you have a 60k speed difference. As long as they stay in their lanes it isn't a problem. Unfortunately most exits are at the right so you get the fast guys running throw the slow guys and it freaks them both out. The fast guys wonder why the slow people are so slow and the slow people think the fast people are freaks. Rode rage ensues.
The biggest problem I see is just not paying attention. There is a big difference between the guy going 150 with hands at 9:15 and full focus on the task and the guy doing 150 on cruise, driving with his wrist while checking his text messages. I don't think cruise control should work at over 110kph. In fact I think cruise control should be banned altogether but I'm a freak.
So we have people going too fast without proper attention and throw another problem into the mix. SUVs and trucks. Many SUVs and trucks have a center of gravity above the axle line. How is that safe? At speed if you just look at an SUV funny, they flip over faster than a cheap hooker on a Saturday night. Any vehicle with the CG above the axle line should be required to be governed to 110k max.
I sure would like to see law enforcement impound the vehicles of those people that stop at the end of a merge lane. Driving must be a truly frightening experience for those morons. Sitting there, stopped, watching the traffic flash by must be nerve wracking. Not to mention that now you need to accelerate like a top fueler just to merge. These people simply should not drive, period.
What about testing for some basic hand eye coordination before getting your license renewed. If it was up to me, when you renewed your license you would have to bounce a tennis ball off a wall and catch it in one hand and pass a field sobriety test. We won't let a drunk drive because he can't pass this test why should you drive if you can't pass it sober?
See, don't you all want me in charge now? ;)
The crazy thing about freeways is that if everyone drove the speed limit and obeyed all the laws traffic would run more soothly and you'd probably get there sooner.
It's all about attitude.
Ruthless82 2007-11-13, 01:55 PM I absolutely think they are separate.
Exactly.
Reckless driving at any speed is dangerous. Driving at a speed over the speed limit is not necessarily dangerous.
It would seem to me that most people treat the speed limit on the road as a minimum, not a maximum. Any way you want to look at it, going over the speed limit is by definition "speeding" and I'd hazard a guess that 99% of drivers have gone over the speed limit or regularly do so.
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