: Shaw Cable HD channels: Video and audio quality discussion
2008-03-10, 12:58 AM
After the Shaw tech came in, he gave me a brand new sealed 160 Gb HD PVR in exchange for the refurbished that was acting up. Hopefully I dont see blocks and audio drop outs from now on, so that my wife can get to record and watch her soap opera; or Shaw will have a pretty nasty phone call from her. :cool:
Hate to burst your bubble, but i have some serious doubts the new box will resolve the macroblocking\sound dropout issue. I've been through 5 boxes myself.
2008-03-10, 03:07 AM
It was 6 PVRs for me before I got one that would just function correctly and I still have the picture and sound issues. It's not the box for those problems.
2008-03-10, 02:59 PM
I'm starting to wonder if one of those clean power centres (the ones Mon$ter wants 400 bucks for) wouldn't help me a bit. I do think there's some issues with the pwoer in this building. I get macroblocking on my bedroom CRT and on some Xbox360games too. Plus occasionally I'll get some horizonatal lines scrolling/looping on my plasma (mostly on SD channels.)
2008-03-10, 03:05 PM
I've got a mid grade APC UPS that conditions the power too and still get the same PQ and audio issues. It is certainly good to have one in your system but I don't think you need to spend that kind of money. 'Monster' is just another word for 'over priced'.
2008-03-10, 05:54 PM
Yeah, I know all about those crooks. I'm just wondering if something like that might help with noise. I'd love to have one to use ona trial basis without committing the money.
2008-03-10, 09:57 PM
like Jetranger said, its good to have a nice power bar, i got a monster one, didnt pay anywhere near $400, but its a nice unit, only has 4 plugs which is enough for me, tv, stb, dvd, amp. It has the clean power that monster claims on to be the best,, i dont know if it really does a difference, maybe if it was analogue feed of cable, but digital prob not gonna see a whole lot, but its still good to have a decent power bar, it will clean the power, remove the noise, help stabablize the voltage which in all will mean better performance and longer life for your electronics.
2008-03-11, 03:51 PM
Unless it is a dual-conversion UPS, a power-bar is at best only going to filter some noise and limit transients. It won't stabilize the voltage. If it is one of the 'expensive' MONSTER type units it may disconnect under surge/sag voltage conditions as well. Only a dual-conversion UPS will give you complete isolation and good protection.
2008-03-11, 04:37 PM
like Jetranger said, its good to have a nice power bar....
I said a "UPS", = Uninteruptable Power Supply, not a power bar. As robsawatsky points out, it needs to be a dual conversion one (AC to DC then DC to AC) in order to give true 'clean' power. Any kind of power bar will only give surge suppression and maybe momentary low voltage protection at best. Spending the same amount of money on a UPS that you can spend on just a Monster 'power bar', you will get exponentially greater protection from the UPS. If your UPS doesn't have enough outlets, then you need a power bar, just make sure it doesn't have any surge suppression as this can create nasty harmonics in the power stream.
Again though, I doubt this will have any effect on the problems this thread is about.
2008-03-12, 03:17 PM
Would something like this maybe help? Not necessailry as a macroblocking cure all, but to help at all? Again I see some macroblocking on Xbox360 cutscenes so I think there maybe be some power issues at play in my building.
2008-03-12, 03:32 PM
While this looks nice and is very reasonably priced, you should save your money and buy a UPS. LD, FS and BB have them on sale every now and then and you can get a decent one for under $200 that will not only protect your equipment from power problems but will also power your system during power outages. Now, a $200 UPS won't power your system for long if the power goes out for an extended period but most outages in a city are only of the short duration type so still worth it. It's a bit of a compromise but always keep in mind that you get what you pay for (except for Monster where you are over paying).
Do yourself a favour and get a UPS. It amounts to good insurance and you won't regret it.
2008-03-17, 09:29 PM
I am in Winnipeg. The last couple days I've had recurring problems with 206 (CBS) and 215 (CW). The two channels will lock up and become pixelated. I have two HD receivers and it happens at the same time on both. Has anyone else noticed this?
2008-03-18, 01:13 AM
I'm in Winnipeg as well... periodic problems with 203 through 215 have presisted since Saturday (tonight 203, 211 and 212 were pixellated and unaccessible for about 30 minutes commencing at 9:25 pm). Shaw tech rep indicated earlier today that there was an equipemnt failure early during the weekend that they were still trying to rectify.
2008-03-18, 12:38 PM
Watching Corner Gas yesterday on 217, there was horrible macroblocking every few seconds. I mean really.. Corner Gas? If I can't even get a good, HD quality picture on a show like that... what's the point?
2008-03-18, 05:06 PM
I was watching HDNet this afternoon and there was about a 10 second shot where they were walking the camera through tall grass. The whole picture was macroblocking the entire time. It looked like a grid... completely unwatchable.
2008-03-18, 05:59 PM
This macroblockiing thing has been going on far too long. It is not advertised in their brochures/ads that promise beautiful pictures and sound in HD. They should be refunding a portion of the monthly fee. Can you say: Class Action Suit.
2008-03-18, 11:35 PM
I'm in Winnipeg as well and 3 out of 3 shows on CBS HD last night got pixelated mid show and froze for 10-15 minutes each. This happened on both of my PVRs on each of 2 1/2 Men, How I Met Your Mother, and Big Bang Theory. Had to delete all three shows without seeing them to completion. It also happened on Sunday on Fox during NASCAR for about 20 minutes. This better not be a common occurrence now. Brutal.
2008-03-19, 12:27 AM
I'm sure resetting your box will help!
2008-03-19, 10:56 AM
I'm sure resetting your box will help!
... and by resetting you mean returning? :eek:
2008-03-19, 06:01 PM
I was watching MCHD this morning - I can't remember the movie - but the marcoblocking was the worst I have ever seen on any channel. I think MC is getting worse. Has anyone else noticed this?
On another note, I think the audio drop outs are less frequent, but longer now.
2008-03-19, 06:19 PM
The last several days have been brutal in Winnipeg. As Snakebyte said Monday's CBS was lousy, and Monday's Fox and NBC was just as bad, was switching between HD and the analog version to watch New Amsterdam, and Medium.
Last night was just as bad for CBS as my recording of Jericho on the east feed was useless.
I called Shaw today to cancel Movie Central and they said the problems over the last few days was due to solar interference.
I also metioned the ongoing audio dropouts and the incident # for that and the group's attempt at testing for Shaw. Someone is supposed to get back to me. Who want's to start a pool as to when they will call me back? My money is on "Cold Day in Hell".