: BC - Victoria, The Island, Sunshine Coast, BC Interior, BC North - OTA
2011-11-08, 02:05 PM
I managed to get chan (8.1) rf22 to come in again but had to aim both my
91xg's at it together to get the signal strong and stable again, still only getting it at around 20db though. This is what happens when a cable company takes over ota transmitters I guess, not really sure how they got away with that one to begin with.
2011-11-08, 02:52 PM
CHAN RF 22 is quite unstable for me, about 140km away.
My Sony TV, once in a while can pick it up (using M4) with signal of 60% and sometimes even 70%.
But mostly it hovers around 40% (no picture lock) and recently it's gone down to worse at 20-30% signal...
Not sure what's going on....
2011-11-08, 04:34 PM
I had no problem watching Hawaii Five-O on Global TV on RF22 (8.1) last night using my indoor Gray-Hoverman antenna with the Kitz amplifier. However, my reception of Global does vary day by day.
2011-11-09, 12:12 AM
Wow, I cant believe you're much closer to Mt Seymour than me, yet RF 22 is unstable for you too? Amazing... hmm...
Well, tonight, was able to get RF 22 and 20 (usually they come up together)... Can't get RF 17, since I think there's already an RF 17 in Marysville area that might be intereferring?
2011-11-09, 11:18 PM
This morning CHAN-DT was back up to around 55% so it really seems to vary on a day by day level at my location.
2011-11-10, 01:12 AM
This morning, CHAN was around 22% signal (not watchable). Late tonight (around 8pm), signal went from 40% to 60% and able to get a picture lock, along with RF 20 CHNM.
Probably will lose these channels in the morning!
Arg, so frustrating can't get a consistent signal, but I'm far away, so that is somewhat understandable... You folks up north are much closer and it's just weird that you can't (but should) get a stable signal for all your BC stations... d'oh.
2011-11-10, 01:45 AM
be236 - I was finally able to get a lock on both 8.1 (RF22 - Global) and 2.1 (RF 43-CBC English) this evening. They were both too weak to watch last night.
My challenge is that my antenna is indoors and my condo, a hallway and another condo are between the antenna and the Mount Seymour transmitters. I do have a window facing southwest into a courtyard (I'm on the top floor of a 4-storey building) but when I turn the antenna in that direction, I can't get a lock on what I would think would be a reflected signal. I'd sure like to know how the signal is propagating around the building! I think I am lucky getting any channels from Vancouver!
You can see my two Gray-Hoverman antennas in Pictures & Albums under Community on the banner above.
Don't give up, keep moving your antenna around your lot to find the sweet spot.
2011-11-10, 03:09 AM
It's strange that I can get RF 20 more easy than RF 43 (CBUT) when RF20 is about -15 dB NM, while RF 43 is about -10 dB NM... Go figure... could be that my home-built M4 is tuned to lower UHF ...
As for your GH, I was gonna build this below, did you make yours with this dimension?
Yeah, I see your situation... that's definitely not idea... dont most Vancouver stations have corresponding Victoria repeaters?
Also, can you get Seattle stations since you're facing SW, plus Seattle stations have higher ERPs than BC stations, and you're closer.. maybe 90km away?
Ya, I do plan to move my M4 around abit and see if that helps... I've read that once I'm past the horizon of the earth curvature (110km?) that stations signals will NOT ever be stable... alas..
The instructions for the SBGH seems easier than the M4 that I made since you dont need to cut the wires, just a lot of bends using a continuous long wire...
here's what my M4 looks like and its position:
2011-11-10, 05:08 PM
Only a few of the Vancouver stations have transmitters closer to Victoria. And I can't get any Seattle stations in my location, too much of the building is in the way of a clear shot to the south east.
Did you see my picture album? I got the measurements for both of my antennas off the Jedsoft and Nikimls websites and dreamed up the structures myself for suspending the elements in free space. There is enough detail on both websites to work out the measurements. See my post number 558 in this thread for the links.
2011-11-10, 07:15 PM
Bummer.. so it sounds like you're saying, "in general, if you live in Victoria, and you're an OTA person, you may only get a few Vancouver stations?" Unless you can mount an outdoor antenna, then you're out of luck almost need to subscribe to cable? Hmm.. that's too bad... for someone in that circumstance...
Also, I just realized that it seems Seattle has twice the number of channels (includes sub-channels) than Vancouver/Victoria market. heh... I didnt realize about it before ... oh well...
Seems if you live in Bellingham (or some pockets down south towards Seattle), you get the best of both worlds. (heh).
2011-11-11, 10:02 PM
I can get them all on a good day with my indoor antenna setup. I get both CTV and CTV-2, Omni, JoyTV, CityTV and occasionally CBC and Global. But I am happy with that as I watch a lot of series on these channels on the internet.
So, my question to you is how much Canadian TV can you watch off the internet on your side of the border. I know that some episodes can only be watched in Canada but there are others that you may be able to watch. Click the Video, Videos, Watch, Watch Now links on ctv.ca (check out the icon links at the bottom of the webpage, too), globaltv.com, cbc.ca, citytv.com, knowledge.ca and let know how you make out.
2011-11-11, 11:18 PM
Knowledge and CBC basically says I cannot watch their videos "in my area."
GlobalTV, I have been to to watch their local news casts (recorded, not live) in the past.
CityTV and CTV, gives some kind of error, such as:
Sorry, there was an error
We are experiencing temporary difficulties downloading your lineup. Please wait another few seconds and try again if you're still having problems.
So quite disappointing...
Regardless of this, I prefer to watch your local news, as most your others shows are American imports... Seems like you guys will get "Americanized" in short order... for example, lots of the US police shows (Law and Order, NYPD Blue, Hawaii 5-0, etc, CSI, NCSI) tell what US police culture and law is about... I wouldnt be surprised that you know more about US law and culture than your own.. which is a shame... Hopefully you can keep your unique culture (albeit it's quite similar -- Children of a Common MOther? (heh)....
.. and you continue to use stupid US measurements (miles, pounds, feet/inches)... only about the measure you use different than US is C vs F temperature when I watch your weather forecasts. :-)
.. ok , end of my soap box...
2011-11-12, 03:57 PM
I live in Bowser, on Vancouver Island 1/2 way between Courtenay and Qualicum. I have over-water line-of sight to Vancouver, 65-70 miles away.
I spent $50.00 on parts, (all available at Home Depot) and built a double bay Grey-Hoverman.
I mounted it low on my deck and pointed it at Vancouver. I am reliably getting 7 digital channels. It is really unbelievable.
To stabilize the picture, I bought, for another $50.00, and signal amplifier (again at Home Depot).
Next step is to raise the antenna and see if I can get US channels on the Gulf Islands, 85 miles away.
2011-11-12, 11:12 PM
That's awesome, wveenhof! Welcome to the forum.
One question: you stated you were reliably getting 7 channels, but added a signal amp to stabilize the picture. What was "unstable" about the picture before? Do you know the signal strength you are getting on each channel?
2011-11-15, 09:10 PM
Wveenhof, I'm also impressed that you're getting all the Vancouver channels all the way from Bowser. I assume that your Home Depot amplifier is the adjustable gain unit from Leviton.
I have an installation on Mayne Island which I originally setup using a McLapp M4 with a reflector and a high gain Winegard AP4800 UHF amplifier. I have since replaced the M4 with a CM-4221-HD. Mount Seymour is about 40 miles away through the trees, over the water and across Vancouver. Iím getting good reception from all the Vancouver channels plus CHEK (Saturna) and KVOS (Orcas). I also occasionally get good reception from CHNU 66.1 in Abbotsford.
2011-11-22, 02:44 PM
27 and 29 are both down in victoria.
22 (8) all over the map from 9-20 db
2011-11-24, 01:29 AM
As of 9:30PM 27 and 29 are up and running over here
2011-11-26, 01:24 PM
I wish those Victoria channels broadcast at higher ERPs for us "Americans" to get. heh.
I guess they're intended for BC / Victorian residents only.. d'oh!
2011-11-30, 02:33 PM
still having issues with global 8.1 (rf 22) there signal strength is all over the map yet all the other stations coming from that location are rock solid, tried everything on my end... thought it was manditory to have the capitals get signal. Does anyone know if they plan on boosting power or not?
2011-12-02, 11:39 AM
Global is also quite weak for me at the moment (and has been for the past 3 days). It's strange because on Sunday it was fine.